Can you get a horse rebranded?

[Nightmare before Christmas]

Just wondering.

My horse was branded at around 6months with his breed stamp and number. You can hardly see it (I mean you have to really really look to make it out).

Its all in his passport and stamped so can I get it redone?

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

anyone? horse is now 5 if that makes any difference

 

[Beausmate]

Nope, think it's illegal except for Exmoors and possibly New Forests? Freezemarked maybe, if you can find someone with the right brands but not hot branding, which I assume is what he has?

And even if you could find someone to freezemark, I doubt it could be done in the same place as the old one due to scarring.

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

Nope, think it's illegal except for Exmoors and possibly New Forests? Freezemarked maybe, if you can find someone with the right brands but not hot branding, which I assume is what he has?

And even if you could find someone to freezemark, I doubt it could be done in the same place as the old one due to scarring.

yeah its a hot brand. I know horses are branded till at gradings and stuff for his breed. Is it just illegal to rebrand?

 

[Beausmate]

Maybe I'm ahead of myself! Thought it was banned already. Still don't think it would be possible to go over the old one. Have you tried getting hold of the breed society? They should know. Someone in breeding or comp. riders on here might too.

ETA. It's banned in Scotland, not England and Wales yet. Unless this is out of date
http://www.bva.co.uk/public/documents/Afternoon_Tea_Oct2012_Hot_branding.pdf

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

yeah ive put in breeding I have no idea! My friends foal was branded last year.

I am trying to find contact with the Oldenburg reg that he is reg with but its all german and google isnt being helpful

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

I dont think you can, you can hardly see dee's brand which kinda sucks but you are better off calling the breed society

Im going to see if a bloke at uni who has been in germany and his german is good can help me

 

[Equilibrium Ireland]

Check with the breed society as already mentioned. I really didn't think any of them were branding anymore.

Terri

 

[SusieT]

Why would you want to?

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

Why would you want to?

I actually like them and its part of his identification in his passport

 

[quirky]

They usually become more visible when they are changing to/have thier summer coat.
Not often can they be seen when hairy.
Can't really see the point of rebranding myself.

 

[Buds_mum]

I really wouldn't want to put the horse through it again. Hellish pain for the sake of the owners vanity....
Freezebrands are proven to be less painful and are easier to see if you wanted some form of id?

 

[Beausmate]

Banned in Germany now too.
http://www.care2.com/causes/cruel-hot-branding-of-horses-banned-in-germany.html

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Why would you want to?

Sorry NBC, but I wholeheartedly agree with Susie.

 

[cptrayes]

You want to burn your horse so that other people can see how good he is?

Words fail me.

My Westfalian's brand is also indistinct. I would not dream of burning him deliberately to make it more clear, I don't think it should ever have been done in the first place. I'd like you to come here and see him, at 7, panic when I try to get a hand-held heat lamp anywhere near him.

 

[amandap]

Perhaps hot branding will over take tatoos in humans? Mmm, wonder why it wont take off?

I'm afraid I just cannot see how inflicting pain cos it 'looks nice' can be justified in any way shape or form!

 

[SusieT]

You want to inflict pain on your horse so that he looks nicer?

 

[PapaFrita]

I actually like them and its part of his identification in his passport

LC has 2 brands. I was there when it was done. He didn't like it much, but it certainly wasn't 'hellish pain' and he healed very quickly and easily. That said, I wouldn't bother redoing them and he's due a third brand but I won't bother with that either.

 

[Beausmate]

Has hot branding been banned in the uk....last time i looked (some while back) they were still branding foals at breed shows?

Only Scotland so far.

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

I have no problem with branded. Horse is hot shod and has no issues! You wouldnt know he had a brand unless you really really look close.

If it cant be done it cant I was just wondering

 

[cptrayes]

I have no problem with branded. Horse is hot shod and has no issues! You wouldnt know he had a brand unless you really really look close.

If it cant be done it cant I was just wondering

If it wasn't for your post count I'd be calling you a troll.

Are you serious?

If you are, can I suggest that you try the difference between cutting your nails and cutting off the end of your finger?

 

[zigzag]

There is a slight difference to having hot shoes put on a horse to a hot poker being put on his arse

 

[cptrayes]

LC has 2 brands. I was there when it was done. He didn't like it much, but it certainly wasn't 'hellish pain' and he healed very quickly and easily. That said, I wouldn't bother redoing them and he's due a third brand but I won't bother with that either.

Why do you assume that it didn't hurt? Because he didn't react much? Once it's done, what can he do??? Surely you have burnt yourself on an oven or with an iron? It hurst us like hell, why should a burn deep enough to destroy hair follicles not hurt a horse the same way?

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

No but some hot branded horses do not like being hot shod as it reminds them of being branded.

Ill ask somewhere else, Im not bothered if it cant be done I am just wondering

 

[PapaFrita]

Why do you assume that it didn't hurt? Because he didn't react much? Once it's done, what can he do??? Surely you have burnt yourself on an oven or with an iron? It hurst us like hell, why should a burn deep enough to destroy hair follicles not hurt a horse the same way?

I don't think it hurt much because he didn't react much but I wouldn't have expected him to because a severe burn such as one caused by branding will destroy the nerve endings. Look it up if you like.
I'm not pro-branding, per se, I just don't think it's such a big deal.

 

[tickety_boo]

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[Nightmare before Christmas]

I find the whole idea of hot branding barbaric. The thought that you want to get it re-done to make it look nicer is utterly sickening.

I burned my knuckles last week and they are still hurting now. You seriously think it's OK to inflict that on your horse simply because you like the look of branding?

I can't believe this post is real, I really can't. At least I sincerely HOPE it's not real.

Not because it looks nicer it because he would mass up to his papers as at the moment you cant see it. I have dealt with many horses that have had hot brands and seen it done at gradings and ive not seen an issue. Ive seen horses react worse to jabs.

Anyway this isnt a pro branding/anti branding thread its just me wondering

 

[RobinHood]

We had an oldenburg foal branded a few years ago and I have to say he reacted far more to the microchip than the brand. Even then I'd never consider getting a brand re-done on an adult horse and I don't think there's a need to brand foals any more.

 

[cptrayes]

I don't think it hurt much because he didn't react much but I wouldn't have expected him to because a severe burn such as one caused by branding will destroy the nerve endings. Look it up if you like.
I'm not pro-branding, per se, I just don't think it's such a big deal.

Have you had a burn that deep and felt what happens when the nerves regrow?

Why on earth would a horse feel it any differently from us? I suppose it helps justify burning horses if you can convince yourself that they don't feel it like we do

 

[Buds_mum]

Having experienced the pain of 2nd degree burns I can say wholeheartedly it really is 'hellish pain'

I have also seen horses being hot branded, some react violently, some barely at all (except for very obvious amounts of tension)

I have also seen lots being freeze branded inc two of my own, all either stood quietly, ate or in my horses case turned his head to watch

At any rate, I know which I would choose to be banned outright.

Certainly re branding because it 'looks nice' and believing it doesn't hurt him shows a huge lack of empathy with your animal.