Car and horsebox?

You need to know .
1 how heavy the car is,
2 how heavy the trailer is (empty)
3 then roughly work out how heavy the pony is.
 
IS THIS YOUR CAR?
If yes, then it can tow an actual weight of 1300 kgs

I need to know a few things

What licence the driver has - B or B+E
Empty/unladen weight of trailer
Weight of horse/pony

All weights in kgs please
 
Towing will be touch & go, if you can only tow 1300kgs & your pony is around 400kgs? then the trailer can weight no more than 900kgs & even then you will be on your limit. You would need to know what trailer you will be using because many of them are around that weight & sometimes more. Certainly some of the older trailers didn't use as many lightweight materials that are use in construction these days.

In short I doubt if you could safely tow with a car of the size of the Mazda 3, I also think you'd be short of power.
 
I stand by what I said, I believe that there will be a severe shortage of power & think that it may well end up with a case of the tail wagging the dog if they went out towing.

(Also an advanced driver....Grade 1)
 
Toby_Zaphod said:
I stand by what I said, I believe that there will be a severe shortage of power & think that it may well end up with a case of the tail wagging the dog if they went out towing.

(Also an advanced driver....Grade 1)
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For a few vehicles there will always be a safety concern when the trailer is heavier than the weight of the vehicle but that shuld not be applied across the board because most modern vehicles are designed to tow trailers that are heavier than the vehicle

If there was a big safety concern then manufacturers would be making this clear because they would not want to leave themselves open to being sued

The minimum kerb weight of a mazda 3 seems to be about 1300 so with a towing capacity of 1300 that will not be an issue
 
Olivia16 said:
Can a 2010 1.6 litre turbo diesel Mazda 3 pull a horsebox with a 14.3hh pony??:confused:
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Your car specs for saloon and hatch scroll down to weights
I'll take the two and make a worse case senario
KERB = 1315
GVW = 1830
Towing max = 1300

Lets assume a horse weighing 500

That would need a trailer weighing no more than 800 when empty but preferrably less to allow for some leeway

For a B licence holder it would need to be plated at 1300 to 1315 max
For a B+E licence holder it would need to be plated at 1300 to 3500
 
It is the mazda 3 in the picture you posted ROG.
except that is a hatchback and mine's a saloon model.

The pony is around 450kg and i don't have a trailer yet because i'm not sure if the car can pull it. :)
 
Olivia16 said:
It is the mazda 3 in the picture you posted ROG.
except that is a hatchback and mine's a saloon model.

The pony is around 450kg and i don't have a trailer yet because i'm not sure if the car can pull it. :)
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The saloon specs are:-
Unladen 1240
GVW 1815
Towing capacity 1300

That means the car is designed to tow an actual weight of 1300

The pony weighs 450 so will say 500 to be safe and in case you feed it with too many apples/sugar lumps :D

That means you need a trailer which weighs no more than 800 unladen/empty
Any of these would do - they may be others
BATESON LIGHT HORSE TRAILER
CHEVAL LIGHT HORSE TRAILER
IFOR LIGHT HORSE TRAILER

Now comes the big BUT .....
All that info above is fine if the driver has a B+E licence

If the driver only has a B licence then the trailer cannot weigh more than 740 unladen/empty to take a load of 500 as that it does not exceed the 1240 unladen weight of the car - B licence towing rule

Also the trailer cannot be plated at more than 1240 because the plated MAM must not be more than the car 1240 unladen weight

Downplating a trailer is easy if the manufacturer is still in business as all three of those listed are - just call them - usually costs nothing or very little

If towing on a B licence then the IFOR would be very tight because using the 450 plus the 770 unladen weight of the trailer is almost the 1240 car unladen weight

If towing on a B licence I would opt for the Cheval or Bateson and have the trailer downplated to 1240 allowing for a load between 585 and 565 kgs

So.... WHAT LICENCE DO YOU HAVE?
 
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