CCI* qualification.... help please

[quizzie]

Am I right in thinking you now have to do a cic* to be eligible for a cic**? Rather than being able to get the qualification from intermediates?

Qualifications which would have enabled you to do x level in 2012 will carry on to cover you to do x level in 2013. This is one of the concessions ERA worked on in their meeting with the FEI.

I spoke to BE after the FEI published their regs, & after the ERA meeting, & BE confirmed to me that in spite of being qualified to do a CIC**in 2012, & having completed a CIC**(with one glance off,& then took it slowly, so not an MER).....because I have not done a 1* of any description, i WILL now have to go back to do a 1*, which seems to contradict Kerillis comment. If I had got an MER, that would not apply...!

Any further clarification gratefully received!!!.

 

[blue2262]

True, but A, have you noted that someone above has pointed out that the FEI has now stipulated (presumably to help with transition) that if you were qualified to ride at a certain level in 2012 you will still be qualified in 2013? will this help S?

I don't think so because FEI are still saying that for National Riders the qualification has to be as a combination, which means at least 1 CIC1*, may be more depending on what BE decide. I think it means that riders retain their qualifications as a combination for this season, but not otherwise. For us it means that the novice horse with 8 points who started eventing last Aug remains qualified to do a CIC2*, but the advanced horse that has been 3* has to go back to 1*.
What is most fruastrating is still not knowing what the national requirements are, without that we dont know if it is worth chasing an early 1*. Still it has given me something to think about while I sit in bed looking at my plastered foot again!

 

[daisycrazy]

I don't necessarily agree with previous posters about your prospects of doing a CCI* by the end of the season. If your horse has jumped 1.40m tracks and you are a good rider but not necessarily experienced in eventing (although it sounds like you've done a couple of seasons at BE100 so you're bound to have learned something!), then with a good trainer and assuming no glitches, it should not be out of the question. The only thing I would say is that to be aiming at a CCI* this season, I would expect you to be confident enough to need no more than one BE100 run (max two) at the beginning of the season before moving up. That would give you a longer season at novice to get a feel for whether you are ready for a stronger test and would also indicate that you've come out of the winter feeling braver and more prepared than at the end of last season.

 

[jess_asterix]

I don't necessarily agree with previous posters about your prospects of doing a CCI* by the end of the season. If your horse has jumped 1.40m tracks and you are a good rider but not necessarily experienced in eventing (although it sounds like you've done a couple of seasons at BE100 so you're bound to have learned something!), then with a good trainer and assuming no glitches, it should not be out of the question. The only thing I would say is that to be aiming at a CCI* this season, I would expect you to be confident enough to need no more than one BE100 run (max two) at the beginning of the season before moving up. That would give you a longer season at novice to get a feel for whether you are ready for a stronger test and would also indicate that you've come out of the winter feeling braver and more prepared than at the end of last season.

I do think tbh that he would go out and do it without a problem and we already have some XC lessons booked in with a very good trainer before the season starts.
The problem is that I cannot go Novice before Badminton Grassroots or I would have done 2 100's and moved up to Novice straight away. Therefore the first opportunity I will get to go Novice is not until the end of May so we may be pushing it abit to get several novice runs and a CIC or two in before the end of the season. x

 

[TableDancer]

I don't necessarily agree with previous posters about your prospects of doing a CCI* by the end of the season. If your horse has jumped 1.40m tracks and you are a good rider but not necessarily experienced in eventing (although it sounds like you've done a couple of seasons at BE100 so you're bound to have learned something!), then with a good trainer and assuming no glitches, it should not be out of the question. The only thing I would say is that to be aiming at a CCI* this season, I would expect you to be confident enough to need no more than one BE100 run (max two) at the beginning of the season before moving up. That would give you a longer season at novice to get a feel for whether you are ready for a stronger test and would also indicate that you've come out of the winter feeling braver and more prepared than at the end of last season.

I don't disagree with this, tbh It is more that if Jess sticks to her plan of not going N till Mount Ballan in May the timing will be tight. Even then, it is not out of the question, but my view would be that I wouldn't be having it as an aim at this stage, I'd wait and see how the season progressed. Speaking as one who (with a bit of help from the teenage jockey! ) took a 14.2 pony which had never competed before from its first BE90 to CIC* in one season, anything is possible - my friend took a horse, which had also previously SJd, from BE90 to double clear and 5th at the 7yos CCI** at Osberton last year too So I agree, I'm by no means ruling it out, but to have it as an aim may be setting yourself up for disappointment. Personally, I'd have in my mind a couple of CIC*s this autumn, then early next year some ints, a CCI* - then if all was going well I would have no problem for aiming for an autumn CCI** 2014. So I don't think we are miles apart and end up in the same place, it's just how you get there

 

[LEC]

I guess the consideration for Jess is if the horse is a great Sjer and reliable xc she needs to stay under the 5 BE points for Badminton GR which is I am guessing the main priority hence going N in May?

 

[jess_asterix]

I guess the consideration for Jess is if the horse is a great Sjer and reliable xc she needs to stay under the 5 BE points for Badminton GR which is I am guessing the main priority hence going N in May?

We have qualified at 90 so have to have 0 points or I would have done one before and took the risk! So yes that is the reason for not doing a Novice until May