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[humblepie]

The more I see of top riders acting like they have recently, the less and less it makes me want to carry on riding......

Honestly wondering if there is anyone we can actually trust or look up to in the horse world nowadays

I think there are hopefully. I worked for an Olympic eventer and there was never any rough riding or gadgets. It was time and patience. And I had my horse at a showing yard. I know showing gets a lot of criticism but the horses there were well looked after, lots of turnout lots of hacking and again no gadgets. It was proper riding and proper thought. It was old school in a good way. Never any rush to get an answer and if the horse took and needed time, he got the time. I think the amount of thought that went into it and the amount of attention to detail in everything is why they could achieve the success as they achieved.

 

[PoppyAnderson]

I know an eventer based in Cheshire. Never, ever so much as raises her voice at them. Phenomenally talented and is 100% trustworthy with any horse. Always puts the horses welfare first without any hesitation.

 

[Burnttoast]

Not exactly an enjoyable watch, but instructive to watch to the end

32K views · 393 reactions | Quand Glamourdale se fâche : Championnats d’Europe de dressage, été 2025, Crozet. Suivez la progression du cheval durant les trois phases. Observez comment, le troisième jour, sa queue ne remue plus et comment ses posté

Quand Glamourdale se fâche : Championnats d’Europe de dressage, été 2025, Crozet. Suivez la progression du cheval durant les trois phases. Observez comment, le troisième jour, sa queue ne remue...

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[PurpleSpots]

Not exactly an enjoyable watch, but instructive to watch to the end

32K views · 393 reactions | Quand Glamourdale se fâche : Championnats d’Europe de dressage, été 2025, Crozet. Suivez la progression du cheval durant les trois phases. Observez comment, le troisième jour, sa queue ne remue plus et comment ses posté

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The lack of tail movement towards the end of the video is incredibly interesting isn't it!

 

[nettle]

Not exactly an enjoyable watch, but instructive to watch to the end

32K views · 393 reactions | Quand Glamourdale se fâche : Championnats d’Europe de dressage, été 2025, Crozet. Suivez la progression du cheval durant les trois phases. Observez comment, le troisième jour, sa queue ne remue plus et comment ses posté

Quand Glamourdale se fâche : Championnats d’Europe de dressage, été 2025, Crozet. Suivez la progression du cheval durant les trois phases. Observez comment, le troisième jour, sa queue ne remue...

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Well that was grim.

 

[Burnttoast]

Well that was grim.

Modern dressage really does need burning down

 

[Burnttoast]

The lack of tail movement towards the end of the video is incredibly interesting isn't it!

It's very odd indeed because he's still carrying it, just no longer using it to express an opinion.

 

[Burnttoast]

I'm reminded of 'you're very good at what you do, it's just that what you do is not worth doing' or something I think from the Big Bang Theory, and how well it applies to modern dressage riders.

 

[little_critter]

Wtf was that?! And how on earth did it score 79%. Most of it wasn’t in a recognisable pace.
And just look at the constant ‘chattering’ of his mouth.
Might as well invite in the Egyptian dancing horses, this seems to be on a par.

 

[tristars]

I thought that, what the hell is it

 

[Gloi]

I blame whoever trains the judges , then the judges who mark up stressed unhappy horses.

 

[Burnttoast]

I blame whoever trains the judges , then the judges who mark up stressed unhappy horses.

Why not blame everyone? No one makes the breeders breed hot hypermobile horses. No one makes anyone ride them. These people are all motivated by their ambition, egos and money, but are adults and could know and do better if they chose to.

 

[Cragrat]

That poor horse

If this is how he is ridden in public, in front of judges, what does he have to endure at home?

And I agree with Gloi. The judging needs to change, right now.

 

[little_critter]

Why not blame everyone? No one makes the breeders breed hot hypermobile horses. No one makes anyone ride them. These people are all motivated by their ambition, egos and money, but are adults and could know and do better if they chose to.

I think the responsibility lies with the judges and the national federations / FEI because they pick the winners. And people are motivated to do what makes them win.
If judges strongly penalised stressed horses, they wouldn’t win and riders would find ways to reduce stress in horses….because calm happy horses win prizes.
The breeding trickles down from there, again if neurotic horses are hard to win prizes on then breeders will breed horses that are level headed. Same with rewarding clear correct paces over hyper mobility.

Edited, I think my use of responsible is wrong.
As you say, everyone involved is responsible, but the judges have the clearest influence. If the judges didn’t reward it then the riders wouldn’t train it and the breeders wouldn’t select for it.

 

[Foxford]

I'm sure there's some complex stuff going on with the judging. I bet someone else can describe it better than me, but I'll have a go! I've heard if they do mark down "the names" they get harassed and are often not invited back by the organisers. I'm sure some of them are bound up in the questionable breeding and training; they have drunk the Kool Aid. And the ones that don't are potentially ostracized.

I went to a lecture demo thing with a UK List 1 judge last week, who was meticulous about regularity of paces and seemed pretty classical in their own training approach. I suppose in summary I think good judges are out there, but perhaps not able to bring about change?