Channel 4 8.30 tonight

Springy said:
Hmm easily solved

1. geld colts to stop breeding...
2. sell some...
3. use the money from selling them to worm and treat the rest..
4. Bring numbers down to about 10....

Educate ??
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Tell you what Springers - I don't often agree with you, but you're right on the mark tonight! :)
 
I am sure it could, it was just her seeming to imply it was deadly because it was a tb as opposed to a cob. Such a sad situation, I dont agree he is a knob he needs help but the RSPCA are in it for the glory.
 
guido16 said:
Yes, what a nice old man, has colts, brings more TB colts, one healthy foal ends up dead. Yup, what a lovely man.


KNOB
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I would say the guy has issues due to the death of his daughter. People can't help mental illness you know.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Life isn't black and white.

If that is the worst suffering you have seen with horses you have been very lucky.
 
He's not a knob, just a very sad and lonely man who needs help!

Applause for Michelle! Good on you girl! You have a heart asa big as those welsh mountains.
 
Bloody poxy ****** rspca. I live in the road by their HO & all I see is posh cars n private numberplates n theyre wasting money on a court case instead of donating wormers and gelding etc. Try helping the bloke out by directing ss to him cos he needs it more than those loved horses....but he should not have taken on the 10 tbs!!
 
I do just wish they'd come up with something forcing people not to have colts/stallions! Would help RSPCA long term with less numbers going their way. RSPCA desperately need some horse handling training for these situations or call redwings for help they are amazing with the wild ones
 
tallyho! said:
He's not a knob, just a very sad and lonely man who needs help!

Applause for Michelle! Good on you girl! You have a heart asa big as those welsh mountains.
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Afraid I have to agree, although why is he having a bath outside!! Surely one of them could have let him have one in their homes :( RSPCA are shocking totally out of their depth honestly just don't have a good word to say about them which is such a shame because they have lost their way from their roots too much money not enough sense.

Shame he doesn't live closer to me I have time on my hands don't mind cleaning and would soon have that house ship shape so he can at least have a roof over his head. I was expecting fields knee deep in horse poo, horses in need of more than just worming and castration etc. Short program hope he gets buyers for his other horses so they are at more manageable levels and I really hope that he gets the support that he needs.
 
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I just feel so sorry for him, his love of horses is obvious though and thank god he has a neighbour like Michelle. (ok she was pulling a horses tail to get it to move but they do that to sheep and cows alot!)
 
Just pretty much said what you said to my oh, he was off on one so pointed out mental health is definitely not black and white there's other issues, he needs help too living in that house, its a sad situation from every aspect,. I've seen horses in far worse than his sadly
 
Bigbenji said:
I would say the guy has issues due to the death of his daughter. People can't help mental illness you know.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Life isn't black and white.

If that is the worst suffering you have seen with horses you have been very lucky.
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First point, don't judge me, you don't know me.

Second point, who says that is the worst suffering I have ever seen?

This is a forum. We agree to disagree. Don't feckin patronise me. Bad move.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Whilst not the conditions I would keep horses in they all look okay. Love the RSPCA bod in camouflage to dart the pony, was that really necessary:p. Tbh what concerns me more is the plaintive howling of a dog/dogs in the background, wonder if the RSPCA checked that out.
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I noticed this and couldnt understand why no-one responded to it. His living conditions in the house were appalling far worse than the horses, yet the horses were the main concern wtf. This poor old man needed help and thank goodness Michelle was helping him, who is going to buy those horses though in the current climate.
 
The RSPCA need to employ people who have at least a little sense of animal husbandry! Where was the welfare consideration when they darted that horse?! The owner should have been involved in the whole operation. He clearly had an amazing relationship with his horses in that herd. Michelle was doing but helping him, which clearly could not be said for the RSPCA or his neighbours. All he needed was some good advice and a little help. How did the court proceedings benefit anyone?!
 
Michelle appears to be doing her best in frustrating circumstances - she is around the same age as his deceased daughter, so he possibly sees her as his surrogate daughter.

As for mental issues, why do people always assume that because someone doesn't conform to society's ideals that the person has mental issues? I love this poem and hope that when I get old I will be an eccentric old lady: Have a read, it's fantastic....

When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
And run my stick along the public railings
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick flowers in other people's gardens
And learn to spit.

You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
And eat three pounds of sausages at a go
Or only bread and pickle for a week
And hoard pens and pencils and beermats and things in boxes.

But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
And pay our rent and not swear in the street
And set a good example for the children.
We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.

But maybe I ought to practice a little now?
So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple.
 
Bigbenji said:
I would say the guy has issues due to the death of his daughter. People can't help mental illness you know.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. Life isn't black and white.

If that is the worst suffering you have seen with horses you have been very lucky.
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tallyho! said:
He's not a knob, just a very sad and lonely man who needs help!

Applause for Michelle! Good on you girl! You have a heart asa big as those welsh mountains.
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This and this.

There are a lot worse horse dotted around the country. At least he had Michelle trying to organise him and the horses.
 
Holly Hocks said:
Michelle appears to be doing her best in frustrating circumstances - she is around the same age as his deceased daughter, so he possibly sees her as his surrogate daughter.

As for mental issues, why do people always assume that because someone doesn't conform to society's ideals that the person has mental issues? I love this poem and hope that when I get old I will be an eccentric old lady: Have a read, it's fantastic....

When I am an old woman I shall wear purple
With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter.
I shall sit down on the pavement when I'm tired
And gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells
And run my stick along the public railings
And make up for the sobriety of my youth.
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain
And pick flowers in other people's gardens
And learn to spit.

You can wear terrible shirts and grow more fat
And eat three pounds of sausages at a go
Or only bread and pickle for a week
And hoard pens and pencils and beermats and things in boxes.

But now we must have clothes that keep us dry
And pay our rent and not swear in the street
And set a good example for the children.
We must have friends to dinner and read the papers.

But maybe I ought to practice a little now?
So people who know me are not too shocked and surprised
When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple.
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mint!
 
Holly Hocks said:
That was the bit that got me - when they said the RSPCA were coming in because the horses were emaciated - and in the background, all I could see were rather up to weight horses, grazing on pretty decent grazing!

RSPCA - Real Society of Pricks, Cocks and Ar$3holes.

Diplomacy and tact really passed them by, didn't it?
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THIS ^^^^^^

If the RSPCA spent the money they used to prosecute him on wormers and gelding and maybe some volunteers to help out, it would be money well spent.
 
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