DipseyDeb
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What are the rules regarding a charity that is unregistered? And horse charities selling horses on for a profit? Do small charities have to keep accounts to show how donations are spent?
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rabatsa
Confuddled
Surely if it is not registered and holding a charity number then it cannot be a charity.
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
As I understand it, unless they are registered, they are not a charity. Claiming to be so is fraud.
DipseyDeb
Well-Known Member
I've tried to look into it and a believe a small charity doesn't necessarily have to be registered... this seems odd in my opinion but there you go. But there must be a point where you have to register. And surely accounts have to be kept and who are they answerable to?
paddi22
Well-Known Member
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-set-up-a-charity-cc21a
Legal requirement
By law, if you set up a charity you must apply to register it with the commission if it is a charitable incorporated organisation (CIO) or its annual income is more than £5,000, unless it is a specific type of charity that doesn’t have to register. The commission will take action to secure compliance if it identifies a charity which isn’t registered but should be.
Legal requirement
By law, if you set up a charity you must apply to register it with the commission if it is a charitable incorporated organisation (CIO) or its annual income is more than £5,000, unless it is a specific type of charity that doesn’t have to register. The commission will take action to secure compliance if it identifies a charity which isn’t registered but should be.
Kaylum
Well-Known Member
There are some rehoming who are running as limited companies and selling the horses on. I don't think they are charities are they?
honetpot
Well-Known Member
Most charities are limited companies for legal reasons, you also can have not, for profit companies.
I think you have to look if there are any accounts, if there are any, and who is getting the money. I know of a local registered charity, it's run two married couples, and they are 'rehoming' four month old puppies, for £400-£600, which sound like they are imported.
I think you have to look if there are any accounts, if there are any, and who is getting the money. I know of a local registered charity, it's run two married couples, and they are 'rehoming' four month old puppies, for £400-£600, which sound like they are imported.
DipseyDeb
Well-Known Member
Well this is what I thought... they have prided themselves in the past with never selling horses on but I know they do and some for a tidy profit.
Wishfilly
Well-Known Member
I would report to the charity commission, as it sounds like they should be registered.
However, they may be able to argue they are not making a profit on the horses when the costs of keeping them are taken into account.
However, they may be able to argue they are not making a profit on the horses when the costs of keeping them are taken into account.
rabatsa
Confuddled
It is INCOME not PROFIT that is the requirement for registration.