Clap for the NHS and animals

Clodagh said:
I'm not disagreeing with you but perhaps the clapping is a nice thing for children. Anxious ones must be really struggling at the moment.
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Most children should be on their way to bed if not actually in bed by 8.0clock. A lack of schooling is no reason to deprive children of healthy sleep, or their MH really will suffer. It will be children of anxious parents who are struggling most.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Most children should be on their way to bed if not actually in bed by 8.0clock. A lack of schooling is no reason to deprive children of healthy sleep, or their MH really will suffer. It will be children of anxious parents who are struggling most.
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Fair point, my children are at the age where I am in bed long before them!
 
We don't clap and I haven't heard anyone either but our neighbours aren't that near. Daughter finds it a bit embarrassing but has been overwhelmed by the kindness of her neighbours and by the steady supply of stuff that has arrived at the hospital for the staff. In a time when people often don't even know their neighbours I find it heartening that there is at least some semblance of solidarity.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
Most children should be on their way to bed if not actually in bed by 8.0clock. A lack of schooling is no reason to deprive children of healthy sleep, or their MH really will suffer. It will be children of anxious parents who are struggling most.
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Some parents will have kept their pre-lockdown routine, some won’t have. Ours has shifted by about an hour, bedtime is later but so is wake up time.

No one is damaging their children’s mental health by allowing them to stay up later than normal to take part in something that makes them feel good.
 
Reri1826 said:
Some parents will have kept their pre-lockdown routine, some won’t have. Ours has shifted by about an hour, bedtime is later but so is wake up time.

No one is damaging their children’s mental health by allowing them to stay up later than normal to take part in something that makes them feel good.
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How long does it take these children to wind down after standing outside making as much noise as possible? I can't see that most of them will be asleep, or even ready for sleep before 9 o'clock, which imho is too late for any Primary school child. As a Primary teacher I find that many parents either underestimate the amount of sleep their children need or simply don't care.
 
I think what children need is a bit of normality as far as that's possible in these times.

The Thursday night jamboree and the posties dressing up as smurfs etc might seem like a good idea, but its just another piece of children's lives that is now different from how it used to be. In my view it could end up adding to children's anxiety rather than easing it. What kids need is for their parents to stick to pre-virus routines as far as possible.

These are very worrying times for children and they could do with some predictability in their lives and daily routines.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
How long does it take these children to wind down after standing outside making as much noise as possible? I can't see that most of them will be asleep, or even ready for sleep before 9 o'clock, which imho is too late for any Primary school child. As a Primary teacher I find that many parents either underestimate the amount of sleep their children need or simply don't care.
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Mine was asleep by 8.20, I have no concerns about her mental health or sleep patterns. Like all people, some children need more and some need less. Mine needs about 10-11 hrs, which she gets whether she goes to bed at 7.30 or 8.30.

I’m a teacher too and have seen the effect of children staying up all night playing computer games because parents won’t remove their tablets or whatever from their rooms. This is a very different thing to an 8pm clap when there is no need to be up for school. Suggesting people don’t care about their children because they stay up later on a night they don’t have to go to school is ludicrous.

Mine understands why we are clapping and who we are thanking, she knows that the NHS is something she has benefitted from, that doesn’t exist in other countries and has been chronically underfunded in recent years. She understands it’s something she should consider when she votes in future.
 
Reri1826 said:
Mine was asleep by 8.20, I have no concerns about her mental health or sleep patterns. Like all people, some children need more and some need less. Mine needs about 10-11 hrs, which she gets whether she goes to bed at 7.30 or 8.30.

I’m a teacher too and have seen the effect of children staying up all night playing computer games because parents won’t remove their tablets or whatever from their rooms. This is a very different thing to an 8pm clap when there is no need to be up for school. Suggesting people don’t care about their children because they stay up later on a night they don’t have to go to school is ludicrous.

Mine understands why we are clapping and who we are thanking, she knows that the NHS is something she has benefitted from, that doesn’t exist in other countries and has been chronically underfunded in recent years. She understands it’s something she should consider when she votes in future.
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How old is your daughter?
 
JFTDWS said:
Personally I think people should show their appreciation to the NHS all year round in ways which will actually benefit its staff directly: not abusing the system, being polite and showing gratitude to those who treat them, not missing appointments, not getting drunk and ending up in A&E on a Friday night / shoving weird objects inside myself and expecting NHS staff to pull them out* etc etc. And, indeed, by voting for people who value them too. Setting off fireworks to support the NHS is nuts given how many home fireworks end in A&E admissions...

(*Not that this is a hardship to me - it's pretty much my default position on that score...)
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I’ve worked in a and e for over 15 years and tbh pulling weird things out of people’s orifices is a job highlight that we generally fight over ...
 
Pearlsasinger said:
How long does it take these children to wind down after standing outside making as much noise as possible? I can't see that most of them will be asleep, or even ready for sleep before 9 o'clock, which imho is too late for any Primary school child. As a Primary teacher I find that many parents either underestimate the amount of sleep their children need or simply don't care.
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All kids are different. My 7 year old never sleeps before 10.30 - ever and is up by 6 - we have to impose a rule that he’s not allowed out of his bedroom before 7 as i don’t run well on that little sleep.
My 11 year old is in bed by 8 and if you let him he’d sleep into 10 (his mother’s son) they’re all different.
 
blitznbobs said:
My favourite was a small statue of the Blackpool tower
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Ouch
I personally think routine causes more problems for kids and animals but each to their own. My 3 year old granddaughter had a ball smacking a saucepan and singing jingle bells Her mum is a nurse She is a miracle baby and wouldn't be around if it hadn't been for the NHS so it is very little for so much. I do agree though that proper appreciation of all the staff should be a permanent fixture not just during a serious pandemic.
 
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