Clwyd Davies hounded by 'Animal Extremists?'

Well as a member of The Truth page Im very annoyed with this article classing me as an animal extremist, I suppose its good pr for the forth coming programme which is again going to very biased. The Support group are also going to be holding a candlelit vigil on the beach for Clwyd where you can give donations. This will be attended by the police presumably to keep the extremists away, if I lived in Wales I would be very angry at the waste of tax payers money being spent on this charade.
 
Dobiegirl said:
Well as a member of The Truth page Im very annoyed with this article classing me as an animal extremist, I suppose its good pr for the forth coming programme which is again going to very biased. The Support group are also going to be holding a candlelit vigil on the beach for Clwyd where you can give donations. This will be attended by the police presumably to keep the extremists away, if I lived in Wales I would be very angry at the waste of tax payers money being spent on this charade.
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Completely agree, a complete and utter waste of police time and resources. I hope that when he turns up (and I am sure he will), he is charged with wasting police time together with his media hungry 'friend' who is milking this for all it is worth.

The thought a a moonlit vigil makes me want to puke and laugh hysterically in equal measure!
 
Goldenstar said:
My point unbalanced as the article may be this bloke has disappeared so the story is not complete rubbish.
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And, the point being?!

We all know he is missing.

We are saying that the article is a load of rubbish because it is biased and portrays a very false account of things.
 
Amaranta said:
Completely agree, a complete and utter waste of police time and resources. I hope that when he turns up (and I am sure he will), he is charged with wasting police time together with his media hungry 'friend' who is milking this for all it is worth.

The thought a a moonlit vigil makes me want to puke and laugh hysterically in equal measure!
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It's just plain mad , I think theres a very fair chance that he's sitting in a caravan somewhere with someone laughing if he's not then yes that's sad but I would save my sympathy for his horses.
If he was being harassed by people that's clearly unacceptable but then as the RSPCA know if you court the media for your own ends you need to take the rough with the smooth.
 
I think it is very sad - all, of it - a depressed, unwell and failing to cope horse owner, his suffering livestock, the lack of real help offered to him by RSPCA or anyone else, and the scapegoating and lack of empathy shown by some on this thread.
 
Very biased article against the RSPCA in my opinion and I'm sorry I for one will show no empathy for that man after what he subjected his horses to. Horse lover he most certainly is not!
 
ozpoz said:
I think it is very sad - all, of it - a depressed, unwell and failing to cope horse owner, his suffering livestock, the lack of real help offered to him by RSPCA or anyone else, and the scapegoating and lack of empathy shown by some on this thread.
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Depressed and unwell? You know this for a fact do you?

He has interbred unregistered horses FOR YEARS, well before the sad death of his daughter. Has anyone stopped to wonder just WHY his family will have nothing to do with him?

The only failure of the RSPCA is that they did not take his horses away years ago. But then he did a runner the last time and they were unable to find him to continue with the prosecution for the last herd he neglected.

No excuse and those stupid enough to believe the propaganda spouted by 'support' need their heads examining. Mind you, that page has become a sort of 'hate' page for the RSPCA. The mere fact that they have labelled normal caring horse owners as 'animal extremists' show just what lengths the people running that page will go to. Lies Lies and Damned Lies!

I am not a huge fan of the RSPCA but in the interest of fairness will defend them in this case.
 
Amaranta, I don't know it for a fact. I just cannot imagine that anyone would/could live that way without there being some underlying reason.
Mental health issues so often go unrecognised.
I don't see any need to take it one side or another - it looks like a whole spectrum of duff circumstances were involved.
 
Well one thing I know for a fact is that this 'friend' of his has blackened people's names, people who are entirely innocent have received phone calls from the police, the page has even intimated that people have had something to do with his disappearance, no mention has ever been made that he has, in fact, done this before - a fact which the authorities are now aware of.
 
Amaranta said:
Depressed and unwell? You know this for a fact do you?

He has interbred unregistered horses FOR YEARS, well before the sad death of his daughter. Has anyone stopped to wonder just WHY his family will have nothing to do with him?

The only failure of the RSPCA is that they did not take his horses away years ago. But then he did a runner the last time and they were unable to find him to continue with the prosecution for the last herd he neglected.
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I agree with this. If he was "depressed and unwell", why didnt he simply sell all his horses? Pretty simple thing to do to be honest. If I couldnt afford to give my horses basic care then I'd be pretty depressed about it but no matter how much I loved them, I would absolutely of course sell them or hell even give them away if it meant they had a better life. To say he loved his horses is a joke. Nobody loves an animal if they let it suffer. And wasnt this man a squater? I thought he just moved into that empty house and chucked his horses in someone elses field?! And didnt someone come on here a while ago saying he'd helped himself to a tractor or something??

That lady who is apparently his "friend", yeah right. She's in it for all the wrong reasons - for a start, didnt she take some of his ponies (BUT charge him livery!) and then sell them for him? I very much doubt she didnt make any money out of that...
 
Im one of those people who has been reported to the CID, still awaiting my phone call though. I live in Somerset and havnt been to Wales for years. Any questions of support I asked which were completely polite were deleted and reported to fb as many others met the same fate.

They have for a long time now been promoting their give a pound donation which considering they have 10.000 likes on their page is an awful lot of money. They have ponies on their page up for rehoming, to find out the price you have to pm them so draw your own conclusions about that one.
 
ozpoz said:
I think it is very sad - all, of it - a depressed, unwell and failing to cope horse owner, his suffering livestock, the lack of real help offered to him by RSPCA or anyone else, and the scapegoating and lack of empathy shown by some on this thread.
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I agree. Epic fail all round. What I don't like is people making assumptions about this man, because nobody knows what is going on in his head and what caused him to act like he did.
 
First of all, I wish the man no harm, although I was glad he was banned from keeping animals, as he treated them very cruelly.

Anyone who's had contact with the homeless/squatting community knows they "disappear" all the time (especially when they've fallen foul of the law). Usually they've just moved on as things got a little tricky in the last place. I think it's likely that this is the case here. I very much hope it is.

As for why people live like this, well there are all sorts of reasons. Some are mentally ill or have drink or drug issues. Some just don't fit into the norms of society fin other ways.

I'm not reading the DM article as that paper is known for its outrageous lies, so there's little point. I wouldn't believe a word of it anyway.

The idea that he was "hounded" is ridiculous though. Some people were quite outspoken on behalf of his abused animals on Facebook, but I never saw anything nasty (and I did follow it). As he lived with no mod cons, electricity or phones etc, anything said on Fb couldn't affect him anyway. :)
 
Goldenstar said:
It's just plain mad , I think theres a very fair chance that he's sitting in a caravan somewhere with someone laughing if he's not then yes that's sad but I would save my sympathy for his horses.
If he was being harassed by people that's clearly unacceptable but then as the RSPCA know if you court the media for your own ends you need to take the rough with the smooth.
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'If' he is being harassed, well he will know better next time than to court the media for cash when caring for poorly managed and neglected animals.
 
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