Cockapoo or sproodle?

[AdorableAlice]

I like Border terriers and would have one if I didn’t work full time. My ex bred working borders and Jacks. all of them had lovely outlooks.

The borders didn’t shed, the jacks were fur balls.

 

[scats]

I groomed a Cesky terrier last week. Gorgeous dog! Possibly my favourite terrier.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

All the cockapoos I see at the groomers at the yard have undershot jaws. I reckon there’s a local back yard breeder making a very good living from selling puppies with poor conformation and zero health tests on the parents.

For a non shedding breed, I’d google and then pick. There are still too many back yard breeders cashing in on poodle crosses. If you’re set on it, find the cockapoo group that health tests.

 

[DressageCob]

I’m not a cockerpoo or poodle cross fan at all. I do not get the hype. Poodles are a nice breed, trainable nature, intelligent etc. They do not need to be diluted.
Cocker spaniels and springer spaniels are also nice breeds and you know what you’re getting. You don’t have to play DNA bingo.

A nice terrier could fit the bill, like a Norfolk or Norwich. I used to have a Lakeland, but although he was lovely I wouldn’t recommend them as a first time dog.
I’m partial to a soft coated wheaten too.

If you do go down the poodle mix route, please do a lot of research into the breeders. So many are puppy farms or a Disney version of a puppy farm (like that awful place that had some dogs stolen a little while back). Or you have the people who “have a nice bitch so thought they’d have a litter”. Or really they see their dog as a walking uterus which secretes money. No health testing, no regulation, no accountability. So many bad breeders out there. And given how easy it is to breed cross breeds (no pesky KC getting involved, no need to register, no health testing) and how much they sell the pups for it just attracts the wrong sort of people.

 

[AmyMay]

What about a Bichon Frise? They don't shed and are lovely quiet little dogs usually.

They’re perfect ?

 

[misst]

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Hello Daisy - looking good

 

[ownedbyaconnie]

trying very very hard to not take any dislike of cockapoos personally and fly off the handle in outrage ?

(I joke I completely get it)

 

[Steerpike]

This is my lad, we 'rescued' our girl who is supposed to be a powder puff x poodle, she doesn't moult either

 

[Lots of Gift Bags]

A high percentage of poodle crosses still moult, that’s why I bought a toy poodle (he’s bigger than a toy actually 14inches. I thoroughly recommend poodles. Teddy is great fun, so easy to train. He was my first dog and I’d never have another breed. However, their coats take a lot of work and expensive. I trim and clip him myself and I bath him every week, blow dry him and brush him throughly, never leave them or Cockapoos to dry naturally it leaves their coat badly tangled. In the summer I clip him short every 2-3 weeks and at about £30 a time doing it myself saves me a lot of money. If you are getting a first dog do factor in the expense of puppy training and continuing that training for a while. I give Teddy a Cockapoo type trim and people often say is he a Cockapoo and I always answer no he’s a Poopoo! I’ve also had owners of Cockapoos ask me about him. When I say he’s a poodle they say oh he’s so gorgeous and I think so why didn’t you buy a poodle ?. Such a shame they are crossed with everything as they are wonderful dogs. Another thing to bear in mind is that most poodles have a fading gene so Cockapoos May be affected by this too. I’ve seen quite a few red Cockapoos end up the colour of a Teddy. Breeders sometimes charge a fortune for the popular fox red/red and they can often fade to apricot. Go Poodles!! ??

Are you based in Sussex by any chance? If so, I think I may have met you as I met someone with a very similar dog who used the term poo-poo in the same way!
I was going to suggest a bichon frise as well, they are non-shedding and great dogs.

 

[Bellasophia]

I have had standard poodles since 2000.My third now lives with a mini schnauzer
In brief..each of my three poodles have been from different breeders and been so different in temperament they could have been different breeds..
The first we imported from UK.Pick bitch,kept back by breeder to show....high prey drive,very high strung,even jumped my 1.5m fence to chase my neighbours cat ( and not to say hi) .Said dog was seizure prone and noise sensitive...she lived to 13.
The second came from Germany,we flew to collect her in Vienna..she was such a steady,working type we rarely used a lead out on the fields,she would stay close,had zero prey drive,and was very much a one man dog.She didn’t care for children,just her mom,me. She was the dog of my life,so faithful,intuitive,calm and steady.Her health was a disaster..low immune system( tested) low thyroid,SIBO,chronic colitis and so on.
Finally my Swedish import ,a beautiful ,friendly boy who epitomizes the essence of a bright ,social,energetic ,healthy poodle.
ALL require a huge amount of grooming even in sporting clip.If they get wet,the “underfur “will mat if not blow dried and brushed.
they are a sporting breed requiring a good run every day..mine all had two hours a day,split into morning and evening walks,plus the usual outings to the shops,markets etc which they all enjoyed.
If you live in the country Id choose a different breed ,avoiding the wool coat.
In contrast,my schnauzer is a perfect dog in both town and country..it’s wire coat( which I strip every ten days) is water repellent and resistant.
She’s a tough character,but is not phased by gunshots( hunters) Tractors,speeding cyclists,etc that we encounter daily.
This is a loyal serious breed requiring a firm training as a pup,lots of socialization,but you get out what you put in.

 

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I love Bichon's. What a gorgeous picture x

 

[satinbaze]

A friend of mine is a part time groomer and it takes her 3 times as long to groom her ex’s cocker x poodle than it does her Scottie in a full show coat. The poodle crosses coats mat very very easily often requiring a full shave. A number of groomers I know actually refuse to groom poodle crosses as the coats are such a nightmare. A full poodle coat is easier to manage

 

[scats]

A friend of mine is a part time groomer and it takes her 3 times as long to groom her ex’s cocker x poodle than it does her Scottie in a full show coat. The poodle crosses coats mat very very easily often requiring a full shave. A number of groomers I know actually refuse to groom poodle crosses as the coats are such a nightmare. A full poodle coat is easier to manage

The problem with a lot of poodle cross owners is that they don’t brush their dogs properly. The trouble with the combination coats is that the wool part is often lying closer to the skin. You need to line brush them, but most people run a brush over the top layer and think their dog is knot free. Once they matts have formed to that extent, the only solution is to shave them down to get the blade between the skin and the Matt. I always say to cockerpoo owners, if they want a nice ‘fluffy’ cut, they need to be able to get a comb through the whole coat at all times.
One of the worst is matted ears, because you have to be so careful when you remove the matts that haematomas don’t form as the blood rushes back in. Owners just don’t realise these things can occur as a result of leaving coats to matt.

 

[Bellasophia]

Scats.So true.....that “skim brushover “is the Crunch factor..the owner thinks they brush everyday and are flummoxed that their dog has mats..
I say ,first large Slicker brush,then fine Slicker brush,then a greyhound comb that should glide through the coat at this point.

satinblaze..Agree..
I definitely spend 3x longer brushing through my standard poodle as opposed to my schnauzer.
When we are in full tick season,my st poodle can have 20 live ticks on his coat..the schnauzer nil..I read that dogs such a ridgebacks have such tough skin ticks don’t attach..I think the schnauzer ,as a rustic dog,may have their advantage..(both dogs have frontline treatment ,I’m talking about fresh,live acquisition) .


I didn’t give a choice of breeds for O.P...so they would be..
border terrier..Jack Russell..mini schnauzer..Manchester terrier..labrador( not working line).

 

[Me_and_Horses]

Thanks everyone for your replies, we definitely looking into getting a poodle but my family have to stupidest prejudice against poodles because of the haircut that some people give them. I am trying to explain that you don't have to give them that haircut, and that they are amazing, intelligent, friendly, fun dogs, but it might take a bit to win them over. I'm definitely getting there though! Again, thank you for your help!

 

[palo1]

I've met a lot of very very sweet and trainable cockerpoos/oodles/etc but none of them have been particularly calm or low maintenance... poodles and spaniels are active working breeds that needs input... a cross will not miraculously be an easy going family dog. I think toy breeds get hugely overlooked in favour of the poodle crosses and it's a shame because the very purpose of the toy breeds is to be exactly that ideal companion dog that everyone with a busy life is after!

There are some fabulous toy breeds too. I do think that a decently bred dog is more likely to do what it says on the tin than a cross bred. I would always think about a pure-bred before a doodle cross unless I had all day to train and exercise one. But I would rather have a pure bred poodle or cocker in any case!!

 

[palo1]

ps. My Irish terrier doesn't shed, is an utterly adorable clown in bright ginger and has the most divine temperament. He has been a doddle to train (basic stuff). Not everyone's cup of tea of course but some of the rarer native breeds are totally wonderful and need a bit of support. There is a lovely breed to suit almost every situation and whilst a doodle type might be very appealing, you may well be better off and more suited to a super pure breed.

 

[Steerpike]

My poodle definitely doesn't have a fancy cut, he's clipped all over with shorter ears than most poodles and his head is about an inch and a half long same as his tail maybe a bit longer, much easier to maintain especially in winter.

 

[oldie48]

Well if we are going beyond the poodle xs, what about a Border Terrier? We had one as our first dog and are now on our third, although they have all had their own personalities, ours have been good with other dogs, Stan has very good recall because I put the work in, is friendly and outgoing but not too in your face and tbh is in my eyes, just perfect.

 

[[139672]]

Are you based in Sussex by any chance? If so, I think I may have met you as I met someone with a very similar dog who used the term poo-poo in the same way!
I was going to suggest a bichon frise as well, they are non-shedding and great dogs.

Yes I am. I go to SCDT ??

 

[[139672]]

Thanks everyone for your replies, we definitely looking into getting a poodle but my family have to stupidest prejudice against poodles because of the haircut that some people give them. I am trying to explain that you don't have to give them that haircut, and that they are amazing, intelligent, friendly, fun dogs, but it might take a bit to win them over. I'm definitely getting there though! Again, thank you for your help!

Shame they can’t meet Teddy, they’d probably change their mind ?. He had a lovely time.in the pub on Saturday night, getting lots of attention as people walked past.

 

[Lots of Gift Bags]

Yes I am. I go to SCDT ??

Well how funny, it must have been you I met! Can't remember when or where though.

 

[[139672]]

Well how funny, it must have been you I met! Can't remember when or where though.

Would you have been walking the dogs in the photo? I don’t remember seeing them. May see you around again sometime. I live in Chi