Could a bay foal turn black ?

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Or have I just scarred him for life
cheeky monster mr foal is now 8 weeks. He was full of scrapes on his back legs , I think from where he scrabbled himself getting up and down, then got a massive scrape on his neck ( just out with mum in very safe field ) He is just like a bull in a China shop.
anyway point is all these marks have now grown in jet black . Might he go black when he sheds his coat, or is this just black patches he will have now. Actual black hair, not scars .
doesn’t matter a jot as will be keeping the little terror.
mums palomino, dad is black
Can’t add picture sadly as saying too big

 

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[Shilasdair]

Black horses often start off as dark brown foals - edited - having seen your picture I don't think he's going to be a black.
Lovely as he is though!

 

[milliepops]

mine was born bright bay but every time she scraped any hair off the regrowth was really dark underneath. she's bright bay all over again now in her yearling summer coat.

 

[smiggy]

Black horses often start off as dark brown foals - edited - having seen your picture I don't think he's going to be a black.
Lovely as he is though!

He is probably darker in the right light

 

[smiggy]

mine was born bright bay but every time she scraped any hair off the regrowth was really dark underneath. she's bright bay all over again now in her yearling summer coat.

That’s reassuring thanks
hate the thought I’ve broken him, such a flipping responsibility ?

 

[ester]

nope he's 100% bay.
black foals tend to pop out grey/buff coloured unless they also have grey.

 

[Meowy Catkin]

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[ester]

We have photos MC

 

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We have photos MC

Sorry, worked out how to do it afterwards !

 

[I'm Dun]

the first foal shed is quite often really really dark and then they go back to being their "normal" colour again.

 

[Hepsibah]

Interesting colour genetics. If mum is palomino she's genetically red (chestnut) with one cream gene to dilute it. Bay is black over red with an agouti alele which pushes the black to the extremities. If there is agouti in the DNA of a genetically black horse it is always expressed which means the mare must carry the agouti alele. It also means he can't turn black himself because he inherited his sire's black gene and his dam's red gene and agouti alele.

 

[smiggy]

Eye crossingly complicated but really interesting, thanks

 

[ponynutz]

*immediately thinks of the start of Black Beauty*

 

[SpotsandBays]

My horse (although mostly dark bay) gets black hair grow through after he’s had a cut or a scrape

 

[ester]

Basically he has to be EeAa based on parents genetics .
E from Dad, e from Mum
A from Mum, a from Dad

 

[Hepsibah]

Basically he has to be EeAa based on parents genetics .
E from Dad, e from Mum
A from Mum, a from Dad

Oh now it all just got too much like maths!

 

[eggs]

My friend‘s foal was born a mousey grey colour and ended up black. Think yours will stay bay