could i sell this horse without being sued

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Here goes my horse is excellent to ride hack on own and in company jumps really well gets 70s in dressage just any thing you want to do he does well. Bad side he quirky to handle as in rears and boxes bolts in hand trys to take chucks out of your body when leading him. I think dangerous to handle and iv been doing it a while so used to him. We have experts ground work everything you should do has been done. Iv been told he wont get over his nerves hes had a really bad past he not nasty just panics or will get you before you get him. can I dare ever sell him as his talent is better than my own
 
I think if you had to sell hin you could find a suitable home and owner.
But you would have to be totally honest, vet people and homes and give them a good chance to get to know him, even a trial period.
 
Do you want to sell him? he has no idea what his 'talent' is and as long as fed and watered and cared for probably wouldn't care too hoots if he only hacked for the rest of his life.
 
I know someone who sold a right b***h of mare. She had loads of potential but would abruptly refuse a xpole, she would rear, throw a buck, she had no manners and hated being loaded. The owner was very honest about her and could not believe that someone actually agreed to buy her. On the day she left, she actually loaded without a problem and the former owner said she only did that to make him look like a liar!

So be honest and good luck.
 
polos mum I do need to sell him as bought him to take him from the abuse he was getting. His talent is the only thing that might get him a good home. And riding he gives it all and so genuine with everything put to him.
 
Mmmm, its just a thought but why don't you try the "Project Horses" website??? Sorry I don't have the link, but I found this a very good place when I was looking to loan out one of mine who was a bit quirky. All they ask is that you are totally honest about the horse and then its up to people to make up their own minds.

Worth a look mebbe?

On the positive side, often horses that are quirky and/or challenging go on to compete at a high level!!! So its just a matter of finding the right person to take yours further; easier said than done, I know.

Good luck anyway.
 
Some horses are better off in the home they have, rather than being sold on. The horse you describe, I would not sell on.
 
Well, puss, unless you think you are the only person able to handle him, and that no-one else is as good a handler as you are, of course you can sell him. You can handle him, so why wouldn't someone else be able to? Be absolutely, totally honest, in the ad and when they come to view- theres no reason at all for anyone to try to sue you.
 
If you can't sell him, PTS would be kinder than him being mismanged in a different home .... OR you could be a bad person and send him to a sale
 
amymay said:
I'm amazed that people actually think it's a good idea to sell on a dangerous horse.......
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I agree with Amymay - he could end up abused for his behaviour again. My WB was exactly as you described rearing, striking kicking - he broke a grooms arm in 3 places by kicking her - it has taken 2.5 years and he is now like a pussycat. Trust takes consistency and time especially in an abused horse. If you now sell him on he has to start right over from scratch with someone new. I could never sell my boy and if circumstances meant I couldn't keep him I would rather pts than risk another abusive home.
 
Hi stormox I do not think im the only one who can handle him but im the only one who knows him best I know the signs I know the pressure point I see the worry in his face I know when to push and when not to. Iv learnt the hard way. Hes not for sale at the moment just putting option open. I would never send him to a sale or to anybody who couldn't cope with him. But he needs to do more than hacking hes to smart and busy for that and he loves competeing. I really want to whats best for him. And im holding him back with my age and lack of talent.
 
You're not holding him back. He's a horse, he doesn't know his 'potential'. If he's dangerous as you describe - keep him. If that no longer becomes an option for you, have him destroyed.
 
I agree, as long as you're honest, you're fine, put something in the advert to cover you as hard evidence of that though...
 
puss said:
Hi stormox I do not think im the only one who can handle him but im the only one who knows him best I know the signs I know the pressure point I see the worry in his face I know when to push and when not to. Iv learnt the hard way. Hes not for sale at the moment just putting option open. I would never send him to a sale or to anybody who couldn't cope with him. But he needs to do more than hacking hes to smart and busy for that and he loves competeing. I really want to whats best for him. And im holding him back with my age and lack of talent.
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Do you have a friend who would compete him if you don't want to so he can get a fix ?
That way you could hack him and enjoy him as well as someone more competitive .
I would not ever pass on a problem horse I wouls just be too worried about where he could end up in two homes time.
 
sounds like my boy when i got him, was an evil demon to handle on the ground and so many times i nearly threw in the towel, was sick of being nipped and bit and dragged. now hes a dream and my friends 6 year old was riding and grooming him the other day! if you are totally honest with the people you sell him to and they say they want to take him, they could be the very ones to work his problems out for him..
 
No you cant sell him as regardless of how hard you try and how honest you are someone will always think they know better and he could end up either killing someone or being abused himself when they try to "knock it out of him"
I have a young kids pony that hates kids he will never go from here in spite of everyone say he will be fine If I cant trust him with my grandkids I couldnt in all consciousness trust someone else not to keep him away from kids. He attacks them so could do a lot of damage.
Strangely he is a very loving and gentle boy when caught is easy and a bit lazy to ride and drive and is the biggest fuss pot out as long as someone has hold of him. He is only dangerous loose in the field or a stable. He daily brings tears to my eyes as I knwo his days are numbered. I have owned him since a few weeks old so I know it isnt abuse that has caused it but he is a fighter and will fight back should anyone challenge him and he would fight to the death f someone tried to hit him
 
The best way to sell him would be a loan with view to buy or trial. Have you tried clicker training for your ground work there are some good videos on YouTube. I have done it at a horse sanctuary and it takes a while but horses are fast learners.
 
Hi clicker training would not work for this horse. As once hes in his own world of panic there no reaching the brain it like nothing or nobody is around him he just lashes out with front end never back no food reasoning will bring him back to your world until hes ready. It really is lights are on nobody there.
 
I don't quite see why you would save a horse from an unsuitable home only to risk sending him to another one. If he is that challenging to handle then two homes down the line from you he could be in the same predicament you saved him from.

As an aside clicker training has nothing to do with 'food reasoning' but with operant conditioning which is an exceptionally good way of overcoming fear and stress reactions.
 
Booboos said:
I don't quite see why you would save a horse from an unsuitable home only to risk sending him to another one.
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THIS, it is not saving the horse to do this, if you are not in it for the long haul you are better not to get involved in the first place.

and yes I think you could be sue-this thread is written evidence to the fact you feel the horse is 'dangerous' and there is 'no reasoning with him'

sorry if I have missed it but how long have you had this horse OP?
 
Please don't tell me about long haul sorry but its been three years. When he came to me he was skin and bone beaten to a pulp and have given up. He was dead in the eyes. I never thought once up to correct weight and nicer life he would still have his moments three years on I thought with trust food routine and respect he would stop and 80 percent of the time hes good its the rest of the time. Even I don't allways see it coming and get it wrong. Hes not up for sale because of how he is but just wanted to sound out what people thought that's all and he has some much to give he is a nice horse 80 percent of the time. And it would break my heart to let him go but he needs more than me.
 
puss said:
but he needs more than me.
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why does he need more than you?

for me the long haul with horses messed up in the head is their lifetime, my concern is that he would be sold and it all go wrong again for him and that is so likely to be what happens that it is scary.

if you are happy dealing with his problems keep him, if i felt out of my depth/scared and felt I had tried all the help that was available to me then i would PTS rather than pass him on
 
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