Could I sell?

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As many of you know, my mare has had several issues in the past which has obviously made her a difficult horse if I ever wanted to sell her
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She had colic surgery in 2007 (no previous nor post history, believed to be something consumed) and PSD surgery in 2008.

She has since come back into work and qualified for the summer and winter regionals this year achieving five marks over 70% in the last couple of outings.

She is bred to jump, having jumping lines on her sires side (Milton is her great uncle
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) and has a good jump but at 8 is a bit green although does learn from her mistakes. Has jumped fillers, spreads etc but never taken over solid fences xc as I am not confident enough in my jumping ability to give her the confidence if that makes sense.

In my opinion, I could not sell her because who in their right mind would buy her
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But it is getting to a stage that decision is taken from out of my hands. Would it be better to give her away to someone (obviously I would have to advertise)?
 
Pack this in, you are doing great, she got your name in H & H last week and I will hear none of it. You know I am straight talking and you know this is said with love.Cx
 
Yes you could sell. Almost all horses have issues at some times, and aslong as they are no longer realistically an issue to her performance etc, there is no reason why not.
 
But she would not be insurable on her colic surgery nor on her hind legs...

She would pass flexions though (she did even when she had the PSD which is what scares me so much about vettings, she was 100% sound) and her hocks are really clean through xrays.

The colic surgery is definitely not an issue to her performance, the vet is amazed that it cannot actually be seen, and the PSD surgery should not affect her again as I have had it scanned since the op and the ligament looked really good.
 
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Pack this in, you are doing great, she got your name in H & H last week and I will hear none of it. You know I am straight talking and you know this is said with love.Cx

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I just don't know whether we can keep doing this to each other... My trainer more or less said to me that she may never go the way I want her to go
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I have spent all afternoon in tears because of my lesson today... my husband just asked me whether it is worth it
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Yes she could I am sure, although I suppose the vetting would pick up the scar. And why do the vettings scare you? She is sound, can do the job, now has nothing wrong with her so why should the vetting pick anything else up?!
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Its like saying if we break a leg we should never be walking without a limp again because we have had an injury in the past?!
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Thanks KatB... maybe if I put her on somewhere like Project Horses people who are prepared to deal with old problems will see it.

Vettings scare me because Grace was 100% sound through a full set of flexions, trot ups and working on a hard surface and yet she came out as having an inflammation to the left hind suspensory ligament. The only tell tale sign was that she was holding onto my left rein when usually she was soft. One vet sent me away saying she was fine
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Vetting wouldn't pick up the scar, unless you knew to look for it - and looked incredibly hard you would never see it. The only way you would now if a horse had been operated on for PSD is if the owner told you. Scary huh?
 
Yeah... you cannot even feel Grace's or see them when she is fully clipped out. If I didn't tell you, no one would know. That is really scary!

I would be 100% honest though from the beginning, no matter what!
 
Ah ok, sorry I misunderstood you re. vettings...:)

I wouldn't put her on project horses. I would put he ron somewhere like horsequest, put her on at a sensible price with an honest (and realistic, not emotional!) advert, not making a big deal and just mentioning the colic. Dont mention the PSD, its not a big deal as its fixed, she is sound and able to do anything anyone would want inspite of it. Only mention it over the phone
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Yeah I know re. PSD, I meant the colic surgery scar! And thats why actually I decided buying a 4yr old was not such a bad idea!!
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Thanks KatB... perhaps it may be worth trying to do an advert if I am still feeling like this in a few days time
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Was thinking £1,200 if I could sell her... would that be too much?
 
Of course you could sell her - some people don't insure their horses because it costs too much. It maybe that you won't get very much for her but I'm sure there are lots of people out there who would be thrilled to have her. Chin up xx
 
You'd prob get more than that for her. She hasnt actually GOT any problems at the mo, she has just had them. There was a rearer with a shiver for sale on Horsequest about a month ago for 2k and I am sure they would have got that!
 
with dressag scores of 70% i would certainly think someone would have her , i think you would just need to be careful who she went to incase someone tried selling her on to make ££.

Is there any chance your trainer may know of someone suitable to take her on?
 
I agree with KatB on this, i also wouldnt be selling her for £1,200 sell to cheap & you will attract the wrong sort. I would put a much higher price but also put open to offers for the right home.

Are you sure you want to sell her though??

Im having a big downer today after horse had colic again Sunday night, ive now got to get him scoped asap as the Vet now agree's with me that it may be Ulcers that are causing it.
Just before regionals as well, it's typical .
 
I don't think so... they sell really top quality dressage horses so I doubt they would know of anyone for her unfortunately. I cannot think of anyone either
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I am cautious about advertising for the reason KatB said... I would hate to think someone would buy her to sell on if I put her up for £1,200 ish.
 
Its still worth asking, they might know someone who isn't in a position to buy one of their top quality horses, but would be prepared to work with her?
 
it really is very difficult , if you loan her you risk her coming back with issues which you have to deal with & you'll still have an attatchment ( & you have already been through such emotional stress) if you sell with a clause they are often not worth the paper they are written on , & i get the impression you'd be very reluctant to sell her & forget as such. I can understand you considering parting with her though , its draining to put so much in but keep getting knocked down.
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can you loan her instead?

i assume you don't need the money to replace her as you already have other horses and that way you can safeguard her future.

i disagree with the majority of posts here- if you simply don't click with a horse when you ride it and you have competition ambitions i don't see the point in struggling on and frustrating yourself and the horse.
i am in the same situation with my 5yro- on paper she is perfect for me but in reality we don't click and just rub each other up the wrong way.
she is currently at a pro yard to do some eventing before probably being sold which is very hard as we have had her since she was 2 weeks old but it is the fairest thing for both of us.
 
I don't really understand where this is all coming from. You have a bad lesson and you want to sell
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Everyone has bad lessons, bad competitions etc but it seems silly to just give in when the going gets a bit rough.

Grace can obviously do the job or you wouldn't be getting the marks that you do BD. Ok, she may not be the most straighforward horse but which horse is??

It sounds like you have very high expectations and are not really enjoying her on a day to day basis, but is this a reason to sell? Maybe you should try chill out a little bit and just think of her as a normal horse rather than a dressage horse and take the pressure off you both a bit?
 
You know, I don't know you, but I usually read your updates. You are doing it for fun. She doesn't seem to make you happy overall.
 
Recently, I have been absolutely loving her... We have been working like a real team together, getting great results and really enjoying our work.

Before that, we had this horrible bucking and tensing through the back behaviour from time to time but for the last few months it has not been there.

She was flirting with a gelding on the Sat night, and on the Sunday she was in season (confirmed by the scans a few days later). Since then, she has just gone straight back to square one, in fact even further back than that. Today, she felt as though she was napping, she was cantering and then just slammed on.
 
If I were you I would get someone to get her out jumping. If she really enjoys it and is kind and generous about it I would say give it a go yourself. Just have fun and see it as a learning curve. You love this horse to bits and why not just move in a slightly different direction - you will have no pressure and might really enjoy it? If you do not want to do this then she will become more attractive to someone having done a little more.
 
Stop all this talk , she has just won 4 classes in a row and qualified for summer and winter BD. Get her on regumate and stop worrying about the bad days , you have lots of good ones
 
There's an owner for every horse, you just have to find them.

Either stop worring and keep her & enjoy her or find that person. I dont think you'd get very much money if you go on about the negatives but there's a lot of positives you've achieved with this horse too.
I dont think selling her as a jumper is the right route to go down.
 
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Recently, I have been absolutely loving her... We have been working like a real team together, getting great results and really enjoying our work.

Before that, we had this horrible bucking and tensing through the back behaviour from time to time but for the last few months it has not been there.

She was flirting with a gelding on the Sat night, and on the Sunday she was in season (confirmed by the scans a few days later). Since then, she has just gone straight back to square one, in fact even further back than that. Today, she felt as though she was napping, she was cantering and then just slammed on.

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So it is only because she is in season? Can't you just put her on Regumate or something?

If you do sell her then I don't think you need to sell her a project horse. What has happened injury wise is in the past, at the moment she is sound and healthy. She is competing brilliantly at affiliated dressage and you have done a great job with her. Assuming she is good in all other ways [clipping/hacking/traffic/loading] etc then I think you could very easily get 5k for her.

You need to be more confident in yourself and in her. She is a cracking horse and you have done a great job with her.
 
Yes you could sell her. I sold Jack who had one eye, a heart mumur, a roach back and needed a very special management as he suffered spasmodic colic at the drop of a hat.

However a giant Worried1 kick up the bum is coming your way...

Like me you are not a professional rider, you are an amatuer doing this for pleasure. 'We' do not have the feel or reactions of a professional rider who rides many different horses everyday, to put things right instantly.

Grace is not doing anything that she wouldn't try on with your trainer - the difference is that they are quicker, stronger and sharper and so able to deal with things faster and usually before they esculate.

Stop trying to be perfect all the time. horse, just like us have off days. Enjoy what you do and accept the fact that it can't always be perfect all of the time.

Grace is a mare, mares are notriously difficult, you are now trying Regumate you have to give this a realistic time frame to work.

I have said many times before that Diva was far worse than Grace in every aspect.

Yes there were days when I was ready to give in and sell her but we perservered and we have come through the other side.

We still have off days especially when we try something new and she becomes strong in the hand or doesn't always feel as supple as I would like. However I remind myself that we are asking more and more of her - as you are with Grace.

I moaned when I couldn't maintain canter, now I moan that she gets strong in the counter canter! you are in a far different place than you were this time last year.

You have beaten the 70% barrier several times - something I have never acheived and would love to!

You now need to make a decision

Either accept Grace and develop strategies to cope
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Sell her - which you would be able to do easily
 
You can't sell her coz I don't think you should!
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Horses always have their highs & lows and from my experience the more talented ones are often more difficult. You've come so far this past 6 months so just stop & reflect on that.

OK so she has a few grouchy days when she's in season & wouldn't eat her regumate today, but surely the days in between outweigh that? If you know when she's going to be in season you can plan around it & scrap the Regumate.

Chin up & stop pressurising yourself
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Grace is worth so much to you!
 
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