crazy crazy driver!! What will the police do??

[rhino]

So glad you are pursuing it OP, we did update your other thread last week as the thread on the 'other' forum is still running too

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=487186

 

[wildcard]

OHHH no defo not riding out in the darksies now am afraid roll on summer though yeah i have been keeping an eye on the link very kindly added by a HH member which links to a car site where this has also been discused by the defendants father with some rather disturbing attitudes towards riders, but also highlights that the young lad in question has a history of having a BAD attitude and gives a good view of his character..

I hope we do well for us all and this boy is made an example of xxx

 

[rhino]

I hope we do well for us all and this boy is made an example of xxx

I hope so too; please can you update us?

 

[fidleyspromise]

The best of luck to you with this case and well done your wee lass for staying so calm.
How is your wee mare getting on?

 

[Mince Pie]

OP, you said you went out last night. - Please tell me that you didn't go hacking in the dark. This time of year I am using the lights on my car by about 4.00, and certainly wouldn't expect to see a horse on the road after that time.

This thread was posted in September so still light at 4pm

 

[ReefingsDad]

Quick update:

Just read on t'other side that the driver was found guilty today of a Section 4A Public Order offence (Intentional harrassment, alarm or distress) and fined £815. Cue cries of "conspiracy", "miscarriage of justice", etc. Not sure the message has actually gotten through, unfortunately, but still the right result, I think.

 

[rhino]

Quick update:

Just read on t'other side that the driver was found guilty today of a Section 4A Public Order offence (Intentional harrassment, alarm or distress) and fined £815. Cue cries of "conspiracy", "miscarriage of justice", etc. Not sure the message has actually gotten through, unfortunately, but still the right result, I think.

I'd just been reading the 'miscarriage of justice thread'

Good result!

 

[quirky]

That is great news .
Let's hope he has learnt his lesson and takes more care in future!

 

[rhino]

That is great news .
Let's hope he has learnt his lesson and takes more care in future!

Hardly His daddy is planning on appealing, as well as setting up a petition to ensure that all riders have tax, insurance, identification and clean up after their horses. Don't think the message has got through somehow, and with parents like that how do you expect the 'kids' to learn any better

 

[Ollie's Mum]

Hardly His daddy is planning on appealing, as well as setting up a petition to ensure that all riders have tax, insurance, identification and clean up after their horses. Don't think the message has got through somehow, and with parents like that how do you expect the 'kids' to learn any better

Be nice if all car drivers had tax and insurance wouldn't it? Why doesn't his daddy petition for that? We got rammed sideways at a roundabout by a young lad in the wrong lane who suddenly decided he wanted to come off at the roundabout but sort of forgot that we were in the way The policeman who attended commented that we were "lucky" that he was a decent lad (admitted it was his fault to the police) and that he actually had insurance!

 

[Shantara]

Hardly His daddy is planning on appealing, as well as setting up a petition to ensure that all riders have tax, insurance, identification and clean up after their horses. Don't think the message has got through somehow, and with parents like that how do you expect the 'kids' to learn any better

It's crazy the amount of people who want us to pick up after our horses! What are we meant to do? Take a shovel and bin bag on every ride?
We do actually pick up after the horse if it's on a stretch of footpath that we've been allowed to use, but it's right outside the yard, so no issue.
If they provide doggie bins, they should provide horsey bins and shovels.

 

[Goldenstar]

Hardly His daddy is planning on appealing, as well as setting up a petition to ensure that all riders have tax, insurance, identification and clean up after their horses. Don't think the message has got through somehow, and with parents like that how do you expect the 'kids' to learn any better

Should think MUms drinking gin and watching her casino royale DVD if she got any sense.

 

[Amaranta]

They could go round and give him a talking to I think. It is a difficult situation, and one I have been in myself with someone stopping and shouting at me.

I am gald you are all ok and none the worse for the experience. I would say however, that if you backed your youngster 2 weeks ago I would consider it way too early to be hacking out.

Disagree with your last paragraph, I always hack youngsters out within two weeks of backing, the best thing for them tbh

 

[Amaranta]

what type of things do you think i should be doing with her?? I long lined her out round all our local roads before i sat aboard and also did lots of ride and lead with my old horse. Instructor said to only do 2-3 light schooling sessions a week and to hack out the rest.. let her see the world aso to speak.. If you have any other suggestions im all ears.. as any advice is appreciated!! Have to point out these roads are usaulyl very quiet and did have safe reliable horse with us aswell.. xxx

Carry on just as you are

 

[Lintel]

I dont go out on our country roads at night, the boys racers are all out then. The worst has to be two jazzed up silly cars coming right up behind and beside me, revving up and creating smoke. Music up full blast with the windows down and the passengers hanging out the window. At that moment, I thanked god I had a highland.
Well done your clever pony!!
I hope the police get this little ******* *******!!!!
X

 

[rhino]

I hope the police get this little ******* *******!!!!
X

Old thread!!

Driver found guilty today

 

[Goldenstar]

Think judging by PH forum daddies going for a appeal.

 

[Tired]

Think judging by PH forum daddies going for a appeal.

Based on this:

a driver in a small kit type car with a pounding loud exhaust came hurdeling towards us at around 100mph.. MENTAL... waved my arm to ask politly to slow down and he slammed brakes on and pulled along side me and started going again MENTAL screaming at me swearing you name it. by this point wed come to stop and bless my youngster just stood quietly. the guy was so high rate i actually thought he was guna get out and drag me off my horse. But then he decided to put foot on brake and rev the engine so hard his tyres were spinning and we got drowned in the smoke from the tyres. he did this for around 1minute before driving off. This was all on a small narrow lane less than 2meters away from us all..

He probably has a decent case, the above is clearly a complete fabrication, based on some silly little things like the laws of physics. 100mph, in that stretch of road, impossible for that car. A burnout for a minute, while sat on the spot, again, it just didn't happen, the OP should be ashamed for telling such lies.

And I'd like to point out, before I'm accused of being a troll, or some such, yes, i've only just registered today for this website, to make this comment, but as a yard owner, I've been browing about this website for some time, and generally find it to be useful, and full of sensible and helpful people.

 

[rhino]

Based on this:
He probably has a decent case, the above is clearly a complete fabrication, based on some silly little things like the laws of physics. 100mph, in that stretch of road, impossible for that car. A burnout for a minute, while sat on the spot, again, it just didn't happen, the OP should be ashamed for telling such lies.

He was convicted of a public order offence. Not a motoring conviction

Surprise surprise, a new forum member Is this going to be like when mumsnet infiltrated us?

 

[Tired]

I never suggested he was convicted of a motoring offence. That makes not the slightest bit of difference to the lies told.

And yes, i'm a new member, i did forsee this, and edit my post to provide a bit more information.

Tired.

 

[Ceris Comet]

Don't worry about joining just to post on this thread tired. I'm sure some of us have joined your chavvy little forum to post as well .

 

[rhino]

Don't worry about joining just to post on this thread tired. I'm sure some of us have joined your chavvy little forum to post as well .

There are quite a few people who have been posting both on here and PH for a long while It's a good forum

 

[Tired]

Don't worry about joining just to post on this thread tired. I'm sure some of us have joined your chavvy little forum to post as well .

My chavvy little forum? I'm not sure i follow. Like i said, i've been reading this forum for a while, there's a link to that pistonheads thread on here. I read it, and posted my opinion.

Opinions, that's what forums are about, yes?

 

[Marydoll]

Based on this:



He probably has a decent case, the above is clearly a complete fabrication, based on some silly little things like the laws of physics. 100mph, in that stretch of road, impossible for that car. A burnout for a minute, while sat on the spot, again, it just didn't happen, the OP should be ashamed for telling such lies.

And I'd like to point out, before I'm accused of being a troll, or some such, yes, i've only just registered today for this website, to make this comment, but as a yard owner, I've been browing about this website for some time, and generally find it to be useful, and full of sensible and helpful people.

From the information given, it appears there were other mounted witnesses and also another independant witness, the op stated AROUND 100 mph, to me that means to bloomin fast for this type of road, she was hardly sitting there with a speed gun and any car can spin there wheels making noise and smoke, again if youre on horseback and frightened, 10 seconds can seem like a minute.
For me the fact that the arrogent ass chose to do it, even for a short spell, knowing he could frighten the horses, personally I hope of he appeals and if he loses, they up his fine and give him community service mucking out horses somewhere

 

[Capriole]

My chavvy little forum? I'm not sure i follow. Like i said, i've been reading this forum for a while, there's a link to that pistonheads thread on here. I read it, and posted my opinion.

Opinions, that's what forums are about, yes?

Yes.

Some interesting stuff on the PH forum (and a few scary people) much like here

 

[Tired]

From the information given, it appears there were other mounted witnesses and also another independant witness, the op stated AROUND 100 mph, to me that means to bloomin fast for this type of road, she was hardly sitting there with a speed gun and any car can spin there wheels making noise and smoke, again if youre on horseback and frightened, 10 seconds can seem like a minute.
For me the fact that the arrogent ass chose to do it, even for a short spell, knowing he could frighten the horses, personally I hope of he appeals and if he loses, they up his fine and give him community service mucking out horses somewhere

So we're in agreement that the numbers quoted are a complete fabrication?

Standard road cars such as the one in question will not sit on the spot, spinning their wheels for a minute. Fact.

 

[Marydoll]

So we're in agreement that the numbers quoted are a complete fabrication?

Standard road cars such as the one in question will not sit on the spot, spinning their wheels for a minute. Fact.

Im sorry but the only fact i see from the information i have, is that witnesses saw the driver verbally abuse the riders, and spin his wheels to try to frighten the horses, he could have caused a serious accident.
As to the how long it was done, imo that is immaterial, it was the intent behind it

 

[Tired]

Well you're entitled to your opinion, but to me, the time is a key factor here, as it clearly demonstrates the OP was lying.

If the driver was wrong, fair enough, if he does appeal and loses, fair enough, but i cannot abide liars, it's despicable. If you read the drivers account, it is quite different. Also, much more plausible.

 

[mandwhy]

Oh my god that sounds horrible and scary for you! What is WRONG with these people do they want to have an accident or cause injury and upset to a horse and rider? Well done for getting the reg and glad you were all OK!

I was out with my share horse after a nice long hack, had done lots of road work and been fine, she can be a little bit spooky (i.e. stops) about large vehicles but I pushed her on and pulled over if I thought it was safer around parked cars etc, and then on the short stretch of very open road back home (i.e. everyone can see you from half a mile away) this IDIOT in some sort of mitsubishi pickup type vehicle with one of those tiny little trailers bouncing around behind came past at like 80mph about 6 inches away from us, the horse jumped onto the grass verge next to the hedge which I think god was there and not a ditch or anything dangerous!

I just cannot fathom why people are like this. Sure people don't like horses being on the roads and don't see why they should slow down, but why endanger lives?? I WISH I had got their registration but was concerned with the horse at the time. She later had a spook and spun round at a bag in the hedge because she was freaked out, the drivers were very understanding and I thanked lots but there are plenty who would think 'why is that horse on the road if its going to act like that??' she wouldn't if it wasn't for that idiot. GRR! I am keeping my eye out for the reg next time!!

 

[ReefingsDad]

Don't worry about joining just to post on this thread tired. I'm sure some of us have joined your chavvy little forum to post as well .

There's really no need for this.

The vast majority of people on both sites are calm, rational and reasonable people (and incredibly helpful, as I've found).

Name-calling makes nobody look good.