Cremello Stallions

Guaranteed Gold at Goldfields Stud in Aberdeen in 2010 ...

www.Goldfieldsstud.com

Here are a few pictures for you of GG who is a 16.1hh cremello TB stallion

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He is a truly lovely and talented stallion that is producing some amazing offspring!

Good luck in your search ...
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I saw Crown's Wonder Pearl at the Brackenspa stud open day last year and was quite impressed.

I beleive (from the Brackenspa website) that he has been graded with the ECHA into their Stud book 1.

I think they are having another open day in late March - well worth the visit.
 
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Milky Way at Groomsbridge near Newmarket
McJonnas at Solaris in Scotland
Perlino Kinsky at Ranby hall, Notts

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Perlino will also be standing in Cornwall for the latter part of the season. He is available by chilled and fressh semen and possibly frozen also later on.

Go to http://www.trevoulterbartonstud.co.uk/perlinokinsky.htm for more info and photos, including some of him under saddle.
 
There are a number of cremello stallions available, the question, beside size, is:
What type are you looking for?
What bloodlines are you looking for?
Are you looking only to UK standing stallions or also considering European or American standing stallions?
Are you considering only those stallions approved with:
- Colour Registers?
- Sport Registers?
- European recognized WB Registers?
- Only UK recognized Registers?
What are you prepared to pay?
Do you want fresh, frozen or natural covering?
WHAT COLOUR IS YOUR MARE? ... as many cremello stallions will not cover dilute mares

I have a list of 56 ! cremello stallions world-wide in sizes from pony (143cm) to horse (172 cm), in warmblood-type breeds, approved and not approved.

Need some more information to thin the list out to meet your requirements.
 
The aim is to breed palomino and buckskin horses, the mares are chestnut and bay and i think he has a palamoino mare as well.

I think he would prefer UK standing stallions, over 16hh bu may consider 15.2 upwards. Ideallly something with a bit of bone as a couple of the mares are Tb. I think stud fee wise he is looking at the 5-600 GBP mark, either fresh/chilled or natural cover, not frozen if he can help it.

As for bloodlines i havent a clue.
 
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I have a list of 56 ! cremello stallions world-wide in sizes from pony (143cm) to horse (172 cm), in warmblood-type breeds, approved and not approved.

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Give us all 56 because i've been looking at cremello's since the last thread and I haven't found that many
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I will adjust my excel file this afternoon to accommodate the forum.
Only problem is I definitely do not want to be accused of advertising!! I have spent alot of time search the internet, addressing the stallion listings in the studbooks and checking the information, so much of it is up to date as per January 2009.
The listing is a personal research and as I breed warmbloods and sport horses and ponies I have excluded quarter horses, ASH, Morgans, etc. Have kept their links on another document.
(I have also started on a Palomino/Buckskin and Pinto Stud List)
 
What determines the richness of the colour for a Palomino? ie why are some very wishy washy & some have that real golden sovereign colour with a white mane & tail. Just wondered if there was a way of getting the darker shades.
 
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I will adjust my excel file this afternoon to accommodate the forum.
Only problem is I definitely do not want to be accused of advertising!! I have spent alot of time search the internet, addressing the stallion listings in the studbooks and checking the information, so much of it is up to date as per January 2009.
The listing is a personal research and as I breed warmbloods and sport horses and ponies I have excluded quarter horses, ASH, Morgans, etc. Have kept their links on another document.
(I have also started on a Palomino/Buckskin and Pinto Stud List)

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It can't be advertising if they aren't your stallions
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besides I asked you to help me because I haven't even got into double figures on my search for a warmblood cremello stallion
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you would be doing me a HUGE favour
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What determines the richness of the colour for a Palomino? ie why are some very wishy washy & some have that real golden sovereign colour with a white mane & tail. Just wondered if there was a way of getting the darker shades.

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I was once told that cherry (very red) chestnut produces the most desirable shade of palomino but I don;t know if their is any truth in that or even if the person that told me had any idea what they were talking about
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One question - What does a Cremello bring to sport horse breeding other than its colour?

When I see people speaking of Cremello's (like above), all that seems to be important is the colour of the resulting foal, so I then presume that the only benefit to using such a stallion is because of its colour, and not about the quality or depth of its breeding.
 
Like most coloured horses, surely? So many skewbalds, for example, are bred to be patchy, not necessarily good at anything else?
(I'm not disagreeing with you, I think you are right btw!!)
 
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One question - What does a Cremello bring to sport horse breeding other than its colour?

When I see people speaking of Cremello's (like above), all that seems to be important is the colour of the resulting foal, so I then presume that the only benefit to using such a stallion is because of its colour, and not about the quality or depth of its breeding.

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In relation to the above quote in some cases this is true - some people do breed for colour but, on the otherhand many of the stallions listed above do have proven competition lineage in their pedigrees.

Surely the process of grading and performance testing these stallions should set the same standard as for solid/traditional coloured horses.
 
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One question - What does a Cremello bring to sport horse breeding other than its colour?


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VERY legit question!!!
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We have many cremello TB stallions here in North America that are 6-7-8-9 years of age that have never been backed, never been ridden, never been shown in anything, never been graded, never been appraised / evaluated by independent inspector's, never been measured by independent inspector's so you really have no clue how tall they REALLY are

Guaranteed Gold has been ridden and shown, he has been inspected and approved, he had a successful show career and now his sons and daughters are entering the show ring and the breeding shed as well so anyone interested in breeding to him or one of his sons down the road, can get a pretty accurate assessment of what they are getting for their money

I honestly think if all a stallion has going for him is "colour" and nothing else to assess and judge him by then Mare Owners would be foolish to pay their money to breed to him unless all they want is a palomino or buckskin foal and dont care about the quality, conformation, movement and performance aspects that should go along with that foal ...
 
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One question - What does a Cremello bring to sport horse breeding other than its colour?

When I see people speaking of Cremello's (like above), all that seems to be important is the colour of the resulting foal, so I then presume that the only benefit to using such a stallion is because of its colour, and not about the quality or depth of its breeding.

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Well for me I had never considered a cremello stallion before but my interest (and nosiness) were peaked by a thread on Palominos and Buckskin Stallions and then I added the following thread

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4054663/an/0/page/2#4054663

but only came up with 3 or 4 stallions, I am actually interested in seeing if I can find a cremello stallion that fulfils the same critera that I use to pick other stallions, if I could find a cremello stallion that ticked the boxes on conformation, pedigree, ability and grading then I would consider using it because the colour would be a bonus... out of the stallions i've looked at so far I would only use one (I am not saying which one, as I don't want to offend anyone
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) but he wouldn't be a match for the mare I am thinking about, hence I am still looking... if I don't find one that ticks the boxes I won't be using a cremello
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OK here goes the list!!
Please excuse any errors ... most of the work is done after 10 pm!
Please pass on any corrections!!!!! Much appreciated!!!

Only those stallions of 3 years old in 2009 and older have been taken into consideration.
Have also been classed per breeding and approval:

Note:
* = no coverage on dilute mares or private treaty only
# = DNA tested AA
## = DNA tested Aa
EU = European recognized Warmblood Studbook
EUC = European recognized Mixed Breed, Colour or Sporthorse Register

Name – DOB – Size – Birth Registry – Appr.with – Status – Book – Contact

<u>Warmblood Bred and EU Approved</u> :
Weissgold – 2004 – 16.1H – ZfDP – ECHA/ZfDP – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Gestuet Falkenhorst D*
Milky Way – 2001 – 16.1H – ZfDP – ECHA/ZfDP – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Gestuet Falkenhorst D*
Mascarpone’s Erbe – 2001 – 162cm – ZfDP – ZfDP/ECHA – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Gestuet Falkenhorst D *
Blue Eyed Dream – 2002 – 16H – ZfDP – RPSI/AWR – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Equivale USA
Mirabeau – 2000 – 16.1H – ZfDP – RPSI/Perf.HorseReg – Appr. – WB Bk.2 – Blazing Colours Farm USA #
Mystic Blue Eyes – 1999 – 16.1H – ZfDP – RPSI – Appr. – WB Bk.2 – Hiatt Farms USA
Banquo – 1994 – 16.2H – Swed.WB – RPSI/SHOC – Appr. – WB Bk.2 - ?USA
Limet Harry – 2002 – 16H – CzechWB – RPSI – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Wolf Run Farm USA

<u>Warmblood Bred and EUC Approved</u> :
Magic Memphis – 2001 – 166cm – ZfDP – Pferdst.Schl.Holst./DSHA /(ZfDP) – Appr. - Colour Bk.1(WB-1) – Stutterilysgaard DK
Neon – 2002 – 160cm – CzechWB – PZVS/SCS – Appr. - sect.A WB Bk.2 – neon-cremello.de D ##
Vangelis – 2003 – 168cm – CzechWB – ECHA – Appr. - WB Bk 1 – ?? Ireland * #
McJonnas – 2003 – 165cm – CzechWB – SSH – listed - ?? - umenno.com UK ##
Alba (perlino:Ee) – 2005 – 167cm – HungWB – BritPaloAss – Appr. - ?? – Halona Sport Horses UK#
Baron (perlino:Ee) – 1992 – 169cm – Eq.Kinsky – R.Belg.Palo – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Kinsky Stable NL
Perlino Kinsky (perlino) - 2002 – 16.2H – Eq.Kinsky – Dan.SportHorseAss – Appr. – Bk.1 – Sporting-Horse UK
Czandor – 2002 – 16.3H – Wielkopolska – BPA – Appr. – Colour - colourthyme-stud UK* #
Matros – 2005 – 16H – Wielkopolska - ?? - ?? - ?? – colourthyme-stud UK *#
Kazbek (perlino) – 2003 – 163cm - Akhal-teke - PZVS/SCS – Appr - ?? – arabians.de D
Kinor (perlino) – 2001 – 15.1H – Akhal-teke - ?? - ?? - ?? - webshot community katoneal100

<u> Thoroughbreds and EU Approved: </u>
The Alchemist – 2003 – 17.1H – J.C. – ZSAA – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – Gestuet Falkenhorst D *

<u>Thoroughbreds and EUC Approved</u> :
Guaranteed Gold – 1998 – 16H – J.C. – Canad.SportHorse – Appr. – 3rd Prem./not WB appr. – True Colours Farm

<u>Thoroughbreds and Not Approved</u> :
Billionair – 1998 - ?? – J.C. – xx - ?? - ?? – Canyon Creek Equine USA
RFF El Dorado – 2000 – 16.3H – J.C. – xx - ?? - ?? – Blazing Colours Farm USA #
Snowy River – 2004 – 16.2H – J.C. – xx - ?? - ?? – Mission Ridge Farm USA (only TB mares)
White Magic – 2003 – 16.2H – J.C. – xx - ?? - ?? - Hollywood Ranch USA
Zillionair – 1999 - ?? – J.C. – xx - ?? - ?? – Norsire Farm USA #

<u>Partbred Arabs and EU Approved</u> :
Heclair d'Arbre Mort (perlino) – 1995 – 154cm – Berber Arab - Rhein/Westf/ZfDP – Appr. – WB Bk.1 – heclair.de D
Alant – 2003 – ?? - BAPS – BAPS - ?? - ?? - ?? Belgium
Roundhills Dancing Cloud – 1993 – 15.1H – PBAR – AHS – Appr. – pbar – 32.25%ar – Pioneer Stud UK
Legend Phantom Moonlight – 1999 – 15.1H – PBAR – AHS – Appr. – pbar – 37.5%ar - Blaencanaid Stud UK
Pioneerstud Silver Sheikh – 2006 – 15H – PBAR – AHS – Appr. – pbar – 75.5%ar – Pioneer Stud UK*

<u>Partbred Arabs and EUC Approved</u> :
Lancelot de l'Arbre Mort – 1999 – 151cm – Berber Arab – ACHR/Berb.Ar.Fr – Appr. – Bk.1 – Almansour D
Klepholms Ikarios – 2005 – 158cm – PBAR – BAPS/ZfDP – Appr. – 2e Prem/Colour Bk.1 – 65%ar – Harlekin Arabians B*


<u>Partbred Arabs and Not Approved</u> :
Roundhill's Crystal King – 2005 – 16H – PBAR - ?? - ?? - ?? – 62%ar – Performance Arabians UK
Aratahne Azahl – 2002 - ?? - ?? - ?? – 75%arab - West Kingston Stud UK #?
Colebridge Silver Phantom - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? UK
Goldenfields Silver Star - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? - ?? – Legend Stud UK
Legend Alphine Mist – 1993 – 15H – PBAR - ?? - ?? - ?? – 54%ar – Sameon Stud UK
Soloman – 2004 – 15.1H – PBAR - ?? - ?? - ?? – via Forum Arabianbreeders.net USA

<u>Colour Association Bred and EUC Approved</u> :
Crown’s Blue Pearl – 2001 – 170cm – Dan.Pal.Ass. – DPA/ECHA/ZfDP – Appr. - Colour Bk.1 – Crown Horse Stud DK
Crown’s Wonder Pearl – 2005 - ?? – DPA – ECHA – Appr. – Colour Bk.1 – Brackenspa Stud UK
Crown’s Classic Pearl – 2003 – 16.3H – DPA – DPA – Appr. – Colour Bk. 1 – Naturally Equine UK
Slotshus Tosca – 2002 – 15.2H – DPA – ?? – ??. – ?? - Brackenspa Stud UK
Rebeh Al Mansour – 2005 – 153cm – ACHR – ACHR – Appr. - ? – 25%ar - ?? Fr
Fayrio Cream Dream - ?? - ?? – ACHR – IAAA/ACHR – Appr. - ?? - ?? – Fr
Craven’s Enchanter - ?? - ?? – ACHR – IAAA/ACHR – Appr. - ?? - ?? – Fr ?
Ouzo des Dieux – 2002 – 160cm – ACHR – IAAA/ACHR – Appr. - ?? - http://samvdm.free.fr/ Fr
Ismir du Tilleul – 2005 – 157cm – R.B.P. – R.B.P. – Appr. – Bk. 1 – royalbelgianpalomino.be B
Whitey – 1996 – 162cm – R.B.P. – R.B.P. – Appr. – Bk.1 – royalbelgianpalomino.be B
Chicco – 1999 – 150cm – R.B.P. – R.B.P. – Appr. – Bk. 1 – royalbelgianpalomino.be B

<u>Barok Association Bred and EUC Approved</u> :
Iberian Blue – 1995 – 158cm – Iberian – IAAA – Appr. – Bk. 1 - barockgestuet-heinz D
Vulcoa – 2002 – 160cm – PSL Lusitano – PSL – Appr. – Bk. 1 – showpferd.de D
Robador (perlino) – 2005 – 163cm – PSL Lusitano – IAAA/ACHR – Appr. - samvdm.free.fr Fr
Atlas – 2003 – 153cm – Iberian – ACHR – Appr. - ? - freizeit-barockpferde D

Quarter Horses :
Magic For Ever – 2005 - ?? – AQHA - ?? - ?? - ?? - elevage-boudet Fr
Vandal’s Gold – AQHA - Netherlands
Raleighs Full Moon – 1998 – 16H – AQHA – AWR/+++ - Appr. – 1e Prem – Moon Rock Arabians USA*
…. More in France, Zwitserland, etc

<u>Sport Ponies and EU/EUC Approved</u> :
Falsario de Color (?perlino) – 2001 – 139cm – ZfDP? - BadenWürt./, ZfDP – Appr. – Bk.1 - gestuet-centauro D
Centauro's Golden Flashlight – 2003 – 145cm – ZfDP - BadenWürt./, ZfDP – Appr. – Bk.1 - gestuet-centauro D
Moonhaze Silver Spiral – 1998 – 14.3H – PBAR - ?? - ?? - ?? – 68.75%ar – Rainbow Arabians DK
Jacomo du Noly – 2005 – 146cm – Connemara – R.B.P. – Appr. – Bk. 1 – royalbelgianpalomino.be Fr
Blue Eyed Super Star – 2006 – 144cm – Connemara – R.B.P. - ?? - ?? – approval 2009? R.B.P. NL

I was going to do the ironing this afternoon .......
 
By the way ... of the stallions listed above ONLY A HANDVOL have completed the stringent 70-day stallion test or the lesser 30-day stallion test!!!!!

If you want to find out more about a particular stallion in the list ... google on name and thereafter on contact ... in 99% of the cases you will ge the right link.
 
Have to get back to you on the ?-day tests .. have to look it up!
Must on to bring the girls in before it gets too dark ... one of which is a cremello in foal to Don Laurie II!!
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Re Colourfan's super list.

What a huge amount of work and effort, very sorry about the ironing but a far more worth while job I am sure. I found your list very interesting but you did mention that any corrections would be welcome.

I know that Slotshus Tosca is now standing here in France rather than at the stud you mentioned in the UK and I am sure he was in 2008.

Congratulations on the impressive research.
 
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