Cremello Stallions

So - does anyone have any idea then if the palomino Anglo Trakehner filly in the States by Guaranteed Gold, once she gets inspected and approved with the ATA (American Trakehner Association), gets bred to an approved ATA stallion, and then has a registerable ATA foal, if that foal was sold to Europe, lets say, would the TV recognize it as a "real" Trakehner, or would the approvals done in the States by the ATA have no validity at all with the TV?

I know the opposite is true - a TV inspected/approved foal/horse would get the same status with the ATA upon importation but I have no idea if the reverse is true with the ATA for the TV

Does anyone know for sure???

I know that Lisa's intention with Guaranteed Gold when he arrives in Scotland in 2010, is to present him to one or more WB registries. Just dont know if TV is a possibility or not for him ...
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I have already answered your question in a previous post.

To start off with you have a Preliminary Book filly by a non-approved TB stallion;
HER foal by a ATA stallion will also be entered into the Preliminary Book (and I am assuming that the ATA stallion has full Trak.Verband approval!) ... why is this foal registered in the PBook ... because just as with it's mother, it doesnot have the 6-full approved generations needed to be registered in the Main-Book.
These are hard and fast rules by the Trakehner Verband ... 6-full generations with TV approved stallions are required before a foal can be registered in the Main-Book.

Also as previously posted somewhere, your best bet for him would be to try and get him approved and do his 70-day stallion test with the German ZSAA ... most WB Studbooks recognize this Register (except Holstein and Hannover) which would make his foals eligible for most EU approved WB Registers.
And this has absolutely NOTHING to with whether the EU approved WB Studbook is a member or not of the WBFSH!!! Not being a member doesnot exclude EU recognition!!
 
The problem for Guaranteed Gold is that he is over 3 years old already BEFORE coming to an approval in Europe. This means if you want him to get an approval for any of the WB Associations, he would have to do the 70 days test BEFORE even getting allowance to be presented for approval with any of them. Those are the rules in Germany, its probably different and less tight in Britain.

A stallion must be presented for approval latest until his third year in the German Associations, after approval has 1 year to do the 70 days test to keep the approval, if not done he goes into book 2. With the ZSAA a stallion gets time until he is 6 years old to finish the performance test, but that is deadline too.

With the Trakehner Verband a colt MUST be presented for approval ELECTION during the year he is 2 years old, if not done so and not elected that year for the approvals, he cannot be presented later, except if done the stallion performance test BEFORE being presented.

Very hard regulations, but that is how its here.
 
Thanks ColourFan ...
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I believe that the intention will be to get him going under saddle once again when he arrives (if not before!) and see where he is at and then decide if he will go through a 70 day test, and which one. I think once his fitness level gets back up there and the surprise wears off that he really DOES have another job other than breeding mares
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he will do very very well in all stages of the testing process ...

Thanks again for the insight - very much appreciated!

I see the hankies have been spoken for already .. you can send a few shirts my way to do now ...
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My percheron mare is in foal to Crowns Wonder Pearl and is due to foal in the next few weeks. I took her back to Brackenspa Stud at the weekend so that they can look after the foaling for me. She settled into her roomy stable and apart from a glance over the stable door when we drove off with the trailer looked quite at home. We are awaiting our first foal eagerly!
 
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