kathantoinette
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Absolutely this.And this thread is why you should have your unsafe, unsound, old or unwanted animals put to sleep in your sight if you care about them.
Absolutely this.And this thread is why you should have your unsafe, unsound, old or unwanted animals put to sleep in your sight if you care about them.
And this thread is why you should have your unsafe, unsound, old or unwanted animals put to sleep in your sight if you care about them.
It’s not a company, it’s a charity! Although they’ve not submitted accounts yet again, they are still registered with the charity commission! I wish anyone luck trying to get money out of her!Its basically a company, where all the 'profits' after paying the staff and expenses should go to looking after the horses, its not a charity.
'Our re-homing fees are £200 for companion horses or ponies, £250 for ridden ponies and £300 for ridden horses - wormed etc. all ready for their new home. We also have our own transport so we can bring your new friend to you - we do ask for a donation for this service (based on mileage). We do vet our new homes - after all, we want a happy ending but also, this is our job.'
As someone has said they look like dealers in low end animals, they get the animals, free to good home, and then the donation and travel costs are a sales fee.
I would find out who owns the company, and try getting your costs back, not as sold, but you will need evidence. Or set on HMRC, see if they are paying tax on their earnings. In tax law as its not a registered charity I doubt if the fee can be classed as a donation.
https://www.ionos.co.uk/startupguid...rofit-accounting-what-needs-to-be-considered/
Yes, you can have him put down, and I would. You would be committing the criminal offence of 'criminal damage', because horses are seen as property. But since a bolting pony has no value, I doubt you would ever be prosecuted. And they would have to find out and report you first and I think the Police will just try to fob her off with it being a civil dispute. But I'm old and a criminal record of that kind would hold no worries for me to do the right thing by the pony.
I would, in your shoes if you have to work for a living, write to them and tell them that the pony is dangerous and you intend to have him put to sleep in one week's time. I doubt you will ever hear from them again, but if you do you could remind them that it is illegal to pass on a horse of his age without a passport, that they misled you about him, and that if they want him back they owe you for all his veterinary investigations.
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It's probably best to contact Free Rein about the horse in question. Free Rein will more than likely take the horse back. At the moment there is an online campaign directed against Free Rein. It's important to understand the reasons behind this:
Setting the Record Straight about Free Rein Horse Rescue
You've had a login since 2007 and this is your first post. Can you tell us what your connection to the organisation is that you have been so motivated to post after 13 years please?
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Why, what's your connection?
No reputable charity would sell a horse at all.I don't have one.
This thread is the only information I have about the place, and I believe that the poster was sold a pony with no passport, and that in itself is sufficient for me to believe all the other negative stuff I have since read, because no reputable charity would sell an unpassported horse, it's illegal.
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The RSPCA do. The new adoptive home has to pass a strict home check, and then the horse is only loaned out for the first (IIRC) 6 months. After that, as long as both parties are happy to proceed, ownership will change hands.No reputable charity would sell a horse at all.
I think you need to edit part of that page, some unwelcome untruths on there, particularly regarding the purchase of the 2 ponies that the 'RSPCA were not interested in' as they were purchased and quickly moved to prevent the RSPCA taking immediate action. FR are not keen on the RSPCA, why?It's probably best to contact Free Rein about the horse in question. Free Rein will more than likely take the horse back. At the moment there is an online campaign directed against Free Rein. It's important to understand the reasons behind this:
Setting the Record Straight about Free Rein Horse Rescue
It's probably best to contact Free Rein about the horse in question. Free Rein will more than likely take the horse back. At the moment there is an online campaign directed against Free Rein. It's important to understand the reasons behind this:
Setting the Record Straight about Free Rein Horse Rescue
I myself personally live in the area too. I have had a horrendous experience with Free Rein.
I originally went and visited there to look at a horse they had up for full loan. When I arrived I immediately noticed about 30 horses all in one herd in a field. Ranging from 16 hand mares to tiny little ponys. The herd would run up and down the field and the little ponies would get stuck in the mud and not be able to keep up. There were round hay bales all put in one place in the field with all the plastic left on.
The two horses I tried out were both very lame. Horses were being kicked and bullied in the herd, and there was no bedding or hay in the stables for the horses that were stabled.
I had seen enough for one day and went up the following day to view two other horses who were getting transported to free rein that day. The horses arrived in the horse box and the transport lady asked where they were going. It was only myself and a young girl on the yard, who left not long after myself turning up. The girl left and it was just myself and one of the mums there to sort out these two horses arriving. Claire was not on the yard and didn't turn up for 3 hours later.
One of the two horses was very nervous and was squirting and squealing when she was scared. Claire was made fully aware of this by the lady who had the horses before. Claire turned up and did not even acknowledge the horses that had arrived. She grabbed some head collars and went to chuck them out in the herd with all the other horses. No strangles tests had been done and they were not isolated from the other horses.
The nervous mare was very scared of Claire getting angry at her for squealing and squirting because she was scared and Claire turned and said this horse is no use to us it is going back tomorrow. The horse had been there 3 hours, was absolutely petrified and was not given a chance to settle in.
The owner of the horses had my number from when they were dropped off and contacted me to say Claire is sending her back. The lady originally put her two horses into rescue as she had to move home to her country last minute and was advised not to sell the horses as due to covid there is a lot of buying and selling going on. So the owner contacted me to advise me of what Claire had messaged her saying her horse could not stay at free rein.
Long Story short I bought the horse off the lady and rehomed it the following day. The other horse was still at the rescue at this point and had been separated from its life long friend. Myself and the owner were sent lots of forums and reviews about free rein and really started to worry about her other horse that was still at the rescue. Nothing had been signed over at this point and Claire was NOT the owner of the horse.
Myself and the owner took a visit to see how the other horse was at free rein. We were absolutely disgusted. It was stood in a stable with no water or bedding and dehydrated. It had a sopping wet rug on and we were then told by someone who was there that day that the horse had been in her stable for ages. This is a horse that hates to be stabled, another thing Claire was made aware of. The horse had been badly kicked in the herd and was very lame.
We were mortified at how the horse had been treated just 3 days after arriving. We organised a trailer to pick up the horse and take it home to reunite it with its life long friend. We got the horse ready and made the people on the yard aware of what we were doing. One of the girls became aggressive and began to tell us its the owners horse and she was just leasing it. It was getting very heated and the owner was told she is not taking the horse.
We had no time to wait for the trailer and walked the horse out of the rescue, onto the main road and up into some random person garden. I knocked on their door and they were very accommodating whilst we waited for the trailer. It took us 7 hours to load this horse. This is a horse that had no bad history being loaded. it was petrified of going back there. The lady who trailered the horse also told us that she had recently rescued another 2 horses from the poor conditions at free rein.
If you look into free reins books it will tell you they make no money. Now you work this out for me. She has over 100 horses at free rein. Okay not all the horses have a sharer but i have seen LOADS of different sharers up there in the space of 3 days. Sharers are charged 150 per month, plus farrier and vet fees. A lot of the horses also have more than 1 sharer, so you please enlighten me to where the money is going and why they cant even afford basics for the horses like a hay holder to make sure the horses aren't eating the plastic.
There was a foal there with clumps of mud still in its coat 5 days after it arrived, with no rug on stood in a stable with no rubber matting or bedding. If you know anything about foals you will know how dangerous this is.
I could go on and on about the poor conditions of free rein. Yes there are bad reviews on Facebook about Claire's personal job lifestyle in the adult industry. I believe this is because she turns up to the yard with her daughter in all designer clothes splashing the cash whilst her horses she states to rescue are living in inhabitable conditions.
I have personally spoken to people who volunteer at free rein who are also very confused as to where the money is that she earns from the sharers ect and states it is not in the charity account! There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes at free rein and it only when you are a insider that you notice this.
We have photo evidence of how our horse was when we rescued it and would advise anyone else with evidence with bad experiences to come forward and bring together the evidence.