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Shot him. While Roly and Lil looked on.
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He will be missed
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Not by me he wont
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He is good in the night, last night he locked himself in the toilet (he sleeps in the porch next to the loo) Roly and Lil still don't like him. And we're yet to nail being quiet when I go out, but I am crossing my fingers. He's good in the night ergo I would have thought its not TRUE separation anxiety(?) but just getting used to me leaving the house.

When I'm in his housetraining is faultless, I've taught him to target a piece of fabric outside, which he now wees on without fault and has done all his poos outside :)

Just a little update, I really want to nail the staying alone thing, being as my silly neighbour is watching me ALL THE TIME! I saw his curtain twitch this morning Grrr!
 
Go and buy your neighbour a bottle of wine, now, immediately, go, don't come back without one and then go and make friends with the irritating little tit!

It's only been three days, Roly and Lil will come round:)

Now go and buy your neighbour a bottle of nice wine, it's either that or we'll move the meet-up and come and give him the AAD Charm Offensive treatment... and you wouldn't want that...:D
 
LOL :D

I went round yesterday with a "sorry" card, he didn't answer the door lol I knew he was in, I live next door!! Maybe I'll leave gifts on the matt, periodicly from Zar?
 
In which case, go and buy your landlord a nice bottle of wine instead...:D

I'm sure he won't really chuck you out, good tenants are not easy to find!
 
Yay, progress! I know it's annoying with the nosy neighbour but do chill a bit, it's still really early days, not every dog is the same/as easy as the next, and they do pick up on any anxiety you have (realises she sounds like broken record :p) and glad to hear he is picking up the toilet training so quickly :)
In a few weeks you'll be wondering what all the fuss was about x
 
Anxious, I'm not anxious, what do you mean I'm anxious!!!! :p :p

Yeah the progress he's made in 3 days is great, if he carries on like this he'll be almost perfect in a week :D
 
It's like with me and B - I got nervous when I saw another dog, because I was scared of how he would react. He didn't know that, all he felt was tension down the line and exploded - so I would be even more nervous the next time and he would go even more bonkers.
I was putting pressure on him and had no idea!

You know what YOU are worried about, all the dogs will feel is the worry and the tension and the pressure and will be more inclined to grizzle/cry/pee.

So take lots of mind altering drugs and everything will be fine.

:p :D
 
He's gorgeous isn't he?

I have found he's wonderful with children and any passer by - however he is not very good with passers by with dogs. Obviously he is not dog agressive (he has spent the last day or so licking Roly while Roly bears his teeth at him) I think more than anything its pent up frustration at not being able to get close to them.

Is it ok that I have different rules for the jacks than him (ie they sleep elsewhere (for the mo) and they are allowed on the sofa (he is not!)) I read in my GSD book that the pack leader is allowed to bestow privelliges on the pack, which I believe letting them on the sofa is. Also I wont leave them to sleep together until I'm happy they don't need supervision and that Zarno will sleep clean through the night!!
 
Sounds like progress is def being made :) at least Roly is leting him make contact with him - albeit with teeth on show. How's Lil with him now? Still snapping or not so much?
Do they ignore him out and about or will they walk happily along side him?
 
Lil just wanders around in her customary fashion, princess -like, she ignores him unless he over steps the mark. He was caught kissing her yesterday - he has the most awesome personality ever, he isn't phased by the fact they both dislike him, nothing irks him - he just says "Oh well, I love you guys!"..
When they go for walks they ignore him lol like, if we don't look at him - he isn't there!! Until Roly is caught have a wee and Zarno sniffs him - que Roly leaping into the air screaming lol
 
What book have you got? Author?

I would make sure he has a 'special bed' but it doesn't have to be in the same place as the jacks and it's fine not letting them all be together at night until you are sure they are all safe.
I've never had a GSD up on the sofa (our sofas have never really been big enough :p) and tbh I don't like the idea of baby GSD jumping up on and clambering off heights for reasons already mentioned, anyway.
You need to get the focus thing down pat and that will stop the lunging, you really need to instill that you are the source of all things awesome and he is only allowed to go and play when you decide rather than letting him strain on the leash towards other dogs. which achieves nothing.

He is at an age where it will be much more trainable now - you have this time off so you have lots of time for one on one work, please use it! Ball up high or treats in pockets like that video I sent you. This kind of training will also tire him out so less accidents and noises through the night. The pup, when in the first video, is a similar age to him, don't forget :)
 
ARGH!!! I'm at my wits end :( my landlord came round to meet Zarno (and fix the shower) and that part went brilliantly. When we had to go upstairs Zarno was whining a bit which we laughed off but when we went down he'd sat and urinated by the door, like constantly, the floor is sodden and safe to say my landlord is almost apoplectic.

I feel liek crying, I think Ive made a massive oversight and its all my fault, the breeders were only rehoming their beautifully bred pup because he didn't like to be left and I thought he'd come round with my dogs for company but he doesn't even care about them! I feel dejected completely, and stupid, what chance do I have if breeders of 35 years thought they couldnt work it out with him :(
 
Kitty, Kitty, Kitty, it's been THREE DAYS.

He is a puppy, he is not in control of his bladder yet. Human babies of a comparable age are not in control of their bladders until they are a lot older.
He is in a new home. He does not know you yet properly, or your dogs.
Please chill out and try to be patient. I understand it is frustrating but you are expecting wisdom beyond his years.
You've been given a lot of advice, you went a long way to get him. Don't give up on him already.
 
*I* know that, and I agree with you, but its not my ultimate decision. My landlord orignially said no dogs, but when he met mine and saw their references he was satisfied they were good so let them. But he's freaked out now, which I do understand, if a dog was wetting in my house and on my brand new carpet I'd probably feel the same!

I remember the days when my two were puppies, but back then I had the luxury of my own house and it didn't matter. He's just reminded me that my lease is up at the end of the month :(
 
Dog piss comes out of the carpet easier than you think. Hindsight's a wonderful thing but maybe he should have stayed in the yard when your landlord visited, but that ship has sailed I suppose, all you can do is apologise and try and reason with him.

I don't know what else to say in terms of your housing situation, I'm off out now, hope it works out for you and I'm always here for dog advice, if not landlord advice! x
 
Can you not buy a crate? Show you LL and PROMISE him that Z will not be allowed in the carpeted part of the house and when not under your direct supervision will be in his crate? Yes, he will howl to begin with, but he's only a baby, I'm sure he'll give in.

I think everyone who has ever had a puppy (definitly including me!) thinks at some point in those first couple of weeks.... WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!
 
Can only echo what the others have said, and a crate really is the way to go. When I got Evie it was 8 years since I'd had a pup, and those I'd had previously had all been kept with their dams so made training etc easier. I had times when I wondered why I had gone for another pup, particularly with the chewing, but it does all come right. (Apart from the fact that the little b is still digging up the flower beds at 2 years old, but you don't want to know that).
 
He was crated at his old home, I put him in his crate while I showered and had the same result, and was only upstairs for 30 mins MAX. Crying pup and saturated carpet. I feel caught between the devil and the deep blue - put him outside he cries and the neighbour will undoubtedly be over or leave him in the house and he cries and wees :(

I have just explained it to my housemate and he said the same thing, people far superior to me gave him up for the same reason and who am I to better them? :(
 
He's really cute ... you aren't thinking of sending him back are you?! It's only day 3. My beagle Bowie was like him as a pup - my JRT hated him with a passion at the start and Bowie would howl the place down if he was left for more than 2 minutes! However once he was into a routine and had his injections and therefore loads of walking he was absolutely fine. The walking together helped bond the dogs I think.
 
How did he wet the carpet if he was in a crate?

Have you made sure he's really really tired when he goes in? So he wants to sleep anyway? Have you given him a Kong full of yummy things to take his mind off it?

Harley still cries if I leave him if I don't give him his Kong!
 
galaxy23 said:
How did he wet the carpet if he was in a crate?
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Mine peed enough in the crate that it would soak through bedding and drip over onto the carpet. :eek:

Kitsune, hang in there - it will get better. I remember feeling exactly the same way a few days in with mine, when she couldn't be left alone for a second without pissing a flood all over the carpet or full-bore howling through the night. Hell, the little witch opened an upstairs door yesterday while I was out and did a little pee on the study carpet. :rolleyes:

I also felt terribly guilty that I'd taken her away from her home, where she was happy to be left and was clean in the house, and was convinced that I was just a terrible owner and doing everything wrong. Feel a bit silly for feeling that way now! Take a deep breath, be consistent and he'll come right. :)

For overnight, can the crate come into your room temporarily? It'll keep him quiet and you can keep an eye on whether he needs to pee or not, then you can gradually move him out onto the landing and then in with the other two dogs when he feels more secure. Everyone else will probably tell you to be a hardass and leave him to it but if the neighbour is likely to complain again it's an option to consider. Certainly worked for us, anyway.
 
Kitty - get some washing powder, hot water and a scrubbing brush and the wee WILL come out - that is what got a MASSIVE wee stain I had been hiding under a rug for a year out.

Then get a black bin liner, rip it open to make a plastic sheet, put it on the floor where the crate goes, cover the plastic with a thick layer of newspaper, then stand the crate on top. Carpet protected.

DO not give up. It WILL get better. Hell, even Henry wet the carpet and he was 18 months old and fully housetrained! Hang in there:)
 
It took at least 3 weeks for Abe to be anywhere near quiet and clean in his crate. You need to do a little more than put him in his crate one time and expect him to be quiet and clean.
Abe was in his crate for 10 minutes every hour even when I was in the room.
 
It took at least 3 weeks for Abe to be anywhere near quiet and clean in his crate. You need to do a little more than put him in his crate one time and expect him to be quiet and clean.
Abe was in his crate for 10 minutes every hour even when I was in the room.
 
I'll ditto this TBH - not that I have had a puppy for years but I've had plenty of un-housetrained rescues :o and they arent always easy for the first week or so? But stick with him, he will settle down, the first few days are always the worst and you wonder what the hell you have done, then you get into a routine and things get easier and easier :)
 
Kitsune said:
He's gorgeous isn't he?

I have found he's wonderful with children and any passer by - however he is not very good with passers by with dogs. Obviously he is not dog agressive (he has spent the last day or so licking Roly while Roly bears his teeth at him) I think more than anything its pent up frustration at not being able to get close to them.

Is it ok that I have different rules for the jacks than him (ie they sleep elsewhere (for the mo) and they are allowed on the sofa (he is not!)) I read in my GSD book that the pack leader is allowed to bestow privelliges on the pack, which I believe letting them on the sofa is. Also I wont leave them to sleep together until I'm happy they don't need supervision and that Zarno will sleep clean through the night!!
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Personally, I couldn't treat them different, if they're allowed on then he should be, although I wouldn't want to encourage the jumping on and off, they say not to let them do it when they are young, if he can't then noone can in my eyes, get the others off ha ha they will be well miffed
 
Yeah he peeds so much its gone through to the carpet. I'm in negotiations with my landlord now, trying to work him round, its ultimately out of my hands now, he'll either say yay or nay and we'll have to go from there :( the woe of not owning your own house :(
 
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