Dealers in Ireland

ycbm said:
Thank you. I will pass George's name on to her. You bought your last unseen, FW, which I think probably shows how difficult it is to buy a sound horse at the moment without travelling the length and breadth of the country, Facebook or no Facebook?

I buy unseen, but she never would.
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Well it wouldn’t matter she could have gone and seen it in Ireland if she wanted my one lol. You want to see lots of things you could go and see and the more you see locally the more chance there is of seeing one to see surely. I viewed one in Aberdeen twice and would have bought him had the folk not messed around delaying things so much that I saw the much better buy I did buy unseen.

I bought my big lad from George.
 
ycbm said:
I haven't rejected any suggestions that would result in what she needs - a visit to one place to see several horses that all meet the specification I have given. Re-read my original post, I did not ask for one-off suggestions of single horses to go and see.
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In my experience, dealers don't all have yards of horses all waiting ready for buyers to come. They have one or two ready for selling, probably advertised. A few being schooled on and not yet ready. A few being broken. The best place to go when you want to see a lot of horses is Goresbridge or Cavan sales.
 
YCBM, have you spoken to Sara Forde, based close to Heysham (as you've been looking in the north west)?
She has lovely horses in from time to time. I tried a full ID of hers a while back and am still kicking myself for not moving faster to put a deposit down.
She's on Facebook.
 
Flicker said:
YCBM, have you spoken to Sara Forde, based close to Heysham (as you've been looking in the north west)?
She has lovely horses in from time to time. I tried a full ID of hers a while back and am still kicking myself for not moving faster to put a deposit down.
She's on Facebook.
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I'll ask her if she has. Thanks.
 
spacefaer said:
Try Galway - the McNamaras have some amazing horses.

Also Grace Maxwell Murphy is more of a producer than a dealer, but had the Clifden winner this year. She has mainly Connies but also some IDs. She's only 30 mins from Shannon airport

There's also the legendary Jim Derwin, but you have to know what you are looking for!

None of the above is cheap, which is why I asked budget, but they're not hauled out of a bog for you to look at either!
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I missed thanking you for this Spacefaer. Thank you.
 
might be worth emailing annaharvey farm as well, a friend got a gorgeous draft from them. They often have lovely ones for sale
 
ycbm said:
I haven't rejected any suggestions that would result in what she needs - a visit to one place to see several horses that all meet the specification I have given. Re-read my original post, I did not ask for one-off suggestions of single horses to go and see.

Why do you have to sound so nasty?
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I read it, you said she liked Connie's, I suggested going to yards in Galway which produce them, Spacefaer suggested the same.

I see you have now responded to her post!

The thing is, it's not supermarket shopping, and as FW usefully suggested, Facebook is the way things are moving if you want to be on the ball.
 
Rowreach said:
I read it, you said she liked Connie's, I suggested going to yards in Galway which produce them, Spacefaer suggested the same.

I see you have now responded to her post!

The thing is, it's not supermarket shopping, and as FW usefully suggested, Facebook is the way things are moving if you want to be on the ball.
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The first mention of Connies in any post of mine says that my experience of sports Connies is that they a very forward going and she could do with something more laid back.

If all you can do is snipe, please don't make any more suggestions on this thread.
 
Another thought, there's a Facebook group called 'dodgy dealers, the truth' (bear with me, lol) and people sometimes post there looking for good dealers. I think one of the admins is a dealer in Ireland. You can also do a search by dealer and see what comes up - if they are good, they often have lots of recommendations.
 
Flicker said:
Another thought, there's a Facebook group called 'dodgy dealers, the truth' (bear with me, lol) and people sometimes post there looking for good dealers. I think one of the admins is a dealer in Ireland. You can also do a search by dealer and see what comes up - if they are good, they often have lots of recommendations.
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ah but the OP doesn't do facebook;)
 
Heres the write up for the irish gelding at HM sports horses, I will try and get a photo

8 yo 15 hand Irish gelding.Lovely model,with super feet and limbs.Lovely temperament.
He is low milage for his age,but genuine and really straight forward to work with.He has done a little bit of everything but mainly hacked about and been on donation rides.Before he came to us he had done more work in open spaces and fields than in arena but now he is working lovely on the flat.
He has a lovely movement and would be a lovely prospect for BD.Rides like a small horse not a pony.Jumping a small fence and is genuine with fillers.Been XC schooling and again was very genuine and willing.
He hacks alone and in company and is good in open spaces.Would be ideal for someone wanting to do dressage,go on a fun ride etc or general all round activities.He is not a plod a long type cob,he is snaffle mouthed but nicely responsive to the leg.
Clipped,recently shod,wormed etc up to date.
£3750 reasonably priced to sell


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Heres the write up for the mare

Approx 15 hand Connemara X 6 yo mare.Measures 151cm with shoes on so likely to measure as a 148cm and is FEI Potential.She has stunning looks and is super quality.Good feet and clean limbs.She has a lovely temperament and is genuine and super easy to work with.
She has a exceptional movement and could be produced for pure dressage and go up the grades BD.Moves like a horse not a pony and has a huge canter.Equally would make top prospect to event as she has a super jump and is genuine and super careful.She is very willing and trainable.
She has done a few training shows and a small low-key hunter trail in Ireland and is now ready to start her competitive career.
Hacks alone and in company and is very good in traffic.
Could be produced for any job to a decent level.
Video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=daMWxP9KK10
£4950 no offers.She is a super mare.
Clipped for the first time this week and was perfect.

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ycbm said:
Can anyone recommend any dealers in Ireland close to an airport with flights from Liverpool or Manchester who will be able to show several IDx type all rounders, predominantly for dressage, under ten and over 4, between 15 and 16 hands when mature to a friend who is desperate to replace a horse she lost to colic a while ago?

We can't find anything sound to view in the North West, so figure it would be better to go to the source!

I'm in touch with Irish Gal, who is an agent. Looking for actual dealers with a yard full to sell.

Thanks.
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Have you tried here
http://www.idhba.ie/

http://www.idhsgb.com/web/page.php/sales_wanted
 
Hi i can recommend KEC, Kennedy Equine Centre outside Tralee. They have a half dozen 5 star stallions and breed their own stock, They often have horses for sale right up to 6 years old probably more. They often put horses on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRWWODMrwI&t=15s this is the last one i watched. You can also get in touch through their facebook page and if you google you will see how big and popular they are breeding many top horses ridden by the likes of Cain OConner. We bought a fantastic horse for my daughter from them when she was 12 years old, 2.5 years later we are still so pleased with him. You will have a lovely day with them with many to see one after the other. Good luck with your search.
 
shugmx said:
Hi i can recommend KEC, Kennedy Equine Centre outside Tralee. They have a half dozen 5 star stallions and breed their own stock, They often have horses for sale right up to 6 years old probably more. They often put horses on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRWWODMrwI&t=15s this is the last one i watched. You can also get in touch through their facebook page and if you google you will see how big and popular they are breeding many top horses ridden by the likes of Cain OConner. We bought a fantastic horse for my daughter from them when she was 12 years old, 2.5 years later we are still so pleased with him. You will have a lovely day with them with many to see one after the other. Good luck with your search.
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That's exactly what I was hoping for, thank you so much.
 
KEC are great if it's a showjumper or competition horse you're after. They have lovely jumpers over 16hh with the best of elite continental jumping lines in the breeding. Naturally with such breeding they will be keen, forward types. So if your friend isn't quite up to a sports Connie will she really be up for a quick and keen young jumper...
 
Irish gal said:
KEC are great if it's a showjumper or competition horse you're after. They have lovely jumpers over 16hh with the best of elite continental jumping lines in the breeding. Naturally with such breeding they will be keen, forward types. So if your friend isn't quite up to a sports Connie will she really be up for a quick and keen young jumper...
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Do they only sell to the pro and semi-pro market then? If they are breeding in quantity surely they will have a range of temperaments? The size thing may be an issue. But of course she would be talking to them before traveling, so it would all be sorted out whether they think can can help her or not.
 
I would second KEC they have all types as their mares are mainly I'D and IDX they used to stand I'D, TB and top warmblood stallions. I know many people who have bought lovely horses there great trial facilities and can return horse if not suitable. I go to their jumping shows quite often. Lovely people. And only 15 mins from kerry airport.
 
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stormox said:
I would second KEC they have all types as their mares are mainly I'D and IDX they used to stand I'D, TB and top warmblood stallions. I know many people who have bought lovely horses there great trial facilities and can return horse if not suitable. I go to their jumping shows quite often. Lovely people. And only 15 mins from kerry airport.
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Fantastic. I will definitely point her in that direction. It sounds exactly what we are looking for. She wants to do dressage to advanced if possible and jump at RC80/90, so it's probably time for a chat with them.
 
ycbm said:
Do they only sell to the pro and semi-pro market then? If they are breeding in quantity surely they will have a range of temperaments? The size thing may be an issue. But of course she would be talking to them before traveling, so it would all be sorted out whether they think can can help her or not.
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The size will be an issue and the age. Their breeding programme is designed to produce 1.40m plus show jumpers. To jump the big tracks they want big horses, ideally 16.3hh and bigger. Of course most of their stock won't make it and will be sold to amateurs but they'll still be big. The amateur horses, particularly lower level "all rounders" are sold off as early as possible in the season to avoid further financial outlay on horses that will not appreciate in value.
 
Irish gal said:
The size will be an issue and the age. Their breeding programme is designed to produce 1.40m plus show jumpers. To jump the big tracks they want big horses, ideally 16.3hh and bigger. Of course most of their stock won't make it and will be sold to amateurs but they'll still be big. The amateur horses, particularly lower level "all rounders" are sold off as early as possible in the season to avoid further financial outlay on horses that will not appreciate in value.
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It's worth a ring, who knows what past ex opportunity or contacts they may have. Meanwhile, you know from my PMs that if you can line up three that fit the spec then we would be game for an early visit to you.
 
Thing is that show jumpers are bred to have a very different brain to an ID or other Irish brained horse. A Connie would be a much safer prospect than anything off a pro SJ yard. Take it from one who has exactly that, and despite being probably the safest WB in the world, he is still not the same as riding something with an Irish brain on it which is what it sounds like your friend needs. Once it’s not in hard work and routine with a pro rider as well it will almost certainly be a lot sharper and harder to handle all round not just to ride.
 
ycbm said:
It's worth a ring, who knows what past ex opportunity or contacts they may have. Meanwhile, you know from my PMs that if you can line up three that fit the spec then we would be game for an early visit to you.
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And as you know from my PMs I only deal direct with buyers. I've had so many people come over being represented by another as in Instructor with a livery: the instructor tells me what the livery wants, I line it up and when they arrive it turns out the livery wants something entirely different. So now I just deal direct with the buyer as it doesn't seem to work out any other way.
 
Irish gal said:
And as you know from my PMs I only deal direct with buyers. I've had so many people come over being represented by another as in Instructor with a livery: the instructor tells me what the livery wants, I line it up and when they arrive it turns out the livery wants something entirely different. So now I just deal direct with the buyer as it doesn't seem to work out any other way.
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And that's absolutely fine IG, that's the beauty of being self employed, you can pick and choose who you work for. But you know her requirements, you don't seem able to line up three potential horses to talk to her about on the phone as I have asked you to, so we aren't exactly in the ball park of booking flights and wasting your time. And if you aren't interested in this burning hot prospect who is desperate to find a sound horse, then I'd be grateful if you would stop trying to put me off recommendations that other people have made.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Thing is that show jumpers are bred to have a very different brain to an ID or other Irish brained horse. A Connie would be a much safer prospect than anything off a pro SJ yard. Take it from one who has exactly that, and despite being probably the safest WB in the world, he is still not the same as riding something with an Irish brain on it which is what it sounds like your friend needs. Once it’s not in hard work and routine with a pro rider as well it will almost certainly be a lot sharper and harder to handle all round not just to ride.
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I appreciate that you are trying to help, but it's not answering the question I asked. I really don't know how much a comparison with you going from a 14.3 gypsy cob to a 17.2 late teenage established warmblood showjumper is relevant to her situation. She is downsizing, not up, and with her budget the horse will not have had an established career at any particular level at anything. If she visits a breeder, she's likely to be offered the ones that simply aren't sharp enough for the pros.


Please people, if anyone else wants to answer the thread, can you struck to the original question? We are looking for one location in Ireland where we can go over two to three days and see a minimum of three horses of whatever breeding which fit the simple criteria I gave in the first post. If you know of any, please let me know.
 
I am not sure if your written word comes across differently to how you hear it in your head YCBM but you do sometimes come across as a bit condescending when all I can see on this thread is people trying to help and giving you the benefit of their experiences.

Its not an attitude I would go onto a dealers yard with personally.
 
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