Dealers in Ireland

cobgoblin said:
Sorry, but I haven't seen IG dissing other people's suggestions...just giving advice on a market that she obviously knows well.
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They are her competition, how am I supposed to know whether she is trying to put me off them for the right reasons, any more than she is supposed to trust me to have faithfully reported my friend's requirements? This works both ways. She should have stayed out of the thread, she was already involved with the possible sale. There was absolutely no need for her to post on this thread at all.

I don't blame her for wanting instruction from the buyer before she actually does anything....many the slip twixt cup and lip.
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Neither do I. Complete mismatch of expectations. Buyer was going to ring her as soon as she confirmed she has horses that fitted the spec. That is now unlikely to happen. Much to IG's relief, I'm sure.


I wish her well.
 
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HashRouge said:
They're not her competition. IG is, as far as I understand it, an agent NOT a dealer and will presumably take clients for viewings all over, including at a number of the places mentioned on this thread.
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Depends if Kennedy ever need to use agents, doesn't it? The seller pays for the privilege of using an agent (and possibly the buyer in an inflated price to take account of agent fees) and Kennedy may never need to use agents because of their reputation. How am I supposed to know? She should have stayed away from the thread to prevent any confusion, because she already had first call on the deal, which was a burning hot lead. What point was there in trying to put us off sending an email to Kennedy, as I have now done? If they have none that fit the spec,, they have none. Job done. There was simply no point in her joining in the thread, it could only do what it has, lead to confusion.

I wish her nothing but the best.
 
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ycbm said:
Neither do I. Complete mismatch of expectations. Buyer was going to ring her as soon as she confirmed she has horses that fitted the spec. That is now unlikely to happen. Much to IG's relief, I'm sure.


I wish her well.
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But that's the wrong way around.....the buyer instructs the agent and then the agent comes up with horses that fit the bill. Whoever introduces them or makes the first contact is irrelevant.

It sounds as though you just want a dealer, not an agent.
 
cobgoblin said:
But that's the wrong way around.....the buyer instructs the agent and then the agent comes up with horses that fit the bill. Whoever introduces them or makes the first contact is irrelevant.

It sounds as though you just want a dealer, not an agent.
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As long as the buyers wishes were faithfully represented, which they were, it isn't that relevant who gives them to the seller. We don't care who we deal with. Anyone who can show us three or more horses in a narrow geographical area, that meet a very broad spec, that are sound enough to pass a vet. It seems like a big ask. I have already accepted fully that I mistook IG's business model. Many, many posts ago. My bad. Check the thread title. It asks for dealers. It did not ask for any agent, and specifically IG, to comment on it.

I wish IG all the best.
 
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Im afraid OP you show very little understanding of the horse world in Ireland. You and your friend need an agent more than most,the breeder/dealers at the level you are looking will think Christmas has come if you go over there. Now I wouldnt bother at all as its a very small world and word gets around.

The biggest mistake you have made is to ask an agent to line things up then ignore what you are asked to do even though some work will have already gone in. It is not IGs 'business model' thats the problem its your misunderstanding of what an agent does ,they are not another level of dealer! they are a representative for their client and need a clear understanding of what the client requires and quite rightly want that from the person paying. Im afraid OP you have made a very amateurish attempt to do what IG does for a living . I cannot think of one agent who would be happy to take an instruction to find a horse then to see on a forum that you are then asking for suggestions for dealers to go straight too. You live in a very strange world im not sure why you posted this thread and I think many will suspect there was a motive behind it far away from the obvious and you need to question why they feel that.

I hope your 'friend' finds the horse they are looking for however this thread will have just made that 10 times harder and if I were you keep this side of the Irish sea now!
 
Oh Popsdosh! I post a thread trying to find a horse dealer, as people have done time and again on this forum. And suddenly I have some ulterior motive, as if I could have forced anyone to contribute to it!

This purchase is genuine.

If anyone else has any more suggestions, or knows of a horse viewing distance from Manchester, can you please ignore this thread, and PM me as some people are doing now?

Thank you.
 
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popsdosh said:
Im afraid OP you show very little understanding of the horse world in Ireland. You and your friend need an agent more than most,the breeder/dealers at the level you are looking will think Christmas has come if you go over there. Now I wouldnt bother at all as its a very small world and word gets around.

The biggest mistake you have made is to ask an agent to line things up then ignore what you are asked to do even though some work will have already gone in. It is not IGs 'business model' thats the problem its your misunderstanding of what an agent does ,they are not another level of dealer! they are a representative for their client and need a clear understanding of what the client requires and quite rightly want that from the person paying. Im afraid OP you have made a very amateurish attempt to do what IG does for a living . I cannot think of one agent who would be happy to take an instruction to find a horse then to see on a forum that you are then asking for suggestions for dealers to go straight too. You live in a very strange world im not sure why you posted this thread and I think many will suspect there was a motive behind it far away from the obvious and you need to question why they feel that.

I hope your 'friend' finds the horse they are looking for however this thread will have just made that 10 times harder and if I were you keep this side of the Irish sea now!
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I think thats a very unfair thing to say, popsdosh. I am in Ireland and know a lot of horse people, breeders, dealers and just amateur fun riders, especially in Munster. Most are not the greedy advantage taking money grabbers you are making us out to be. Yes we like to sell a horse for its true value, considering the cost of producing a horse here. Far more travelling involved to get to shows etc. SJI, EI registration etc (very few unafilliated shows here).
An English dealer is just as much out to make money as an Irish one. I am absolutely disgusted by what to me is a very bigoted and racist remark.
 
stormox said:
I think thats a very unfair thing to say, popsdosh. I am in Ireland and know a lot of horse people, breeders, dealers and just amateur fun riders, especially in Munster. Most are not the greedy advantage taking money grabbers you are making us out to be. Yes we like to sell a horse for its true value, considering the cost of producing a horse here. Far more travelling involved to get to shows etc. SJI, EI registration etc (very few unafilliated shows here).
An English dealer is just as much out to make money as an Irish one. I am absolutely disgusted by what to me is a very bigoted and racist remark.
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I really think you have taken what I said out of context but he ho ,It was actually a compliment to the people there selling horses ,you need to understand them to deal with them. Very often it is not the horse your riding they are trying to sell you!
Its a different culture and thats the exact the point I was trying to make if you dont understand them you will get something you dont want.. I take exception to be called bigotted and racist by somebody who does not know me most of my best mates come from ireland and we do a lot of business together. So I will put it down to you just taking what I said in the wrong context and leave it at that, lifes to short!
 
MotherOfChickens said:
fwiw I didnt read it as a negative against Irish dealers at all?
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No, neither did I. I read it as a very rational argument for the need to use people like IG whether in Ireland, England or Spain for that matter. The country and nationalities have nothing to do with it
 
Abi90 said:
No, neither did I. I read it as a very rational argument for the need to use people like IG whether in Ireland, England or Spain for that matter. The country and nationalities have nothing to do with it
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My apologies then. I thought it meant that us Irish were more likely to take advantage of a novice/newbie owner than an English dealer would be. I read it wrongly, sorry
 
stormox said:
My apologies then. I thought it meant that us Irish were more likely to take advantage of a novice/newbie owner than an English dealer would be. I read it wrongly, sorry
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Not at all. That's the problem with the written word and we see it often on here... and even multiple times in this thread!

Also doesn't help when auto correct changes multiple to "Mum's title"
 
You should try Northern Ireland. Now is ripe for pickings with people going off to uni etc. and there are some lovely young pony club types for sale as well as the standard connie x.
There aren't "dealers" as such but producers more, there is an event yard beside me that might be worth a ring if you want a steady head with movement. Benefits of NI is that most yards would be within an hour from the airport.

Tbh though, I am slightly confused about what your friend is aiming for, I thought she was downsizing to something smaller and quieter, but then you mention she would like to do advanced dressage with it. A smaller/quieter horse is unlikely to have the same ability to go advanced tbh.

The event yard that I mentioned is good at producing all types and is well known here, I bet Rowreach & Fiona could guess who I mean :p They have a good reputation and although I don't know what they have for sale atm they do have up to 40 horses in work but not sure how many belong to the owners/themselves/sales livery.
Otherwise there is a yard 5 mins from them which is where I bought my big boy from, they breed there and potentially have a couple of nice types in but may be too big, Billy was 17h when i bought him as a 4 year old. He is however the same size and as easy to ride/do now as a 11 year old/11!! Their stallion is 16.3 so probably the ones in could be around same mark. Worth a look though as Billy doesn't ride as big as he is.
 
popsdosh said:
I really think you have taken what I said out of context but he ho ,It was actually a compliment to the people there selling horses ,you need to understand them to deal with them. Very often it is not the horse your riding they are trying to sell you!
Its a different culture and thats the exact the point I was trying to make if you dont understand them you will get something you dont want.. I take exception to be called bigotted and racist by somebody who does not know me most of my best mates come from ireland and we do a lot of business together. So I will put it down to you just taking what I said in the wrong context and leave it at that, lifes to short!
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They, them, the people there, you need to understand them - jeez, stop with the othering already! It's like you're deliberately framing the entirety of over here as some quaint foreign land full of canny horse traders who only speak in riddles three.
 
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