Did anyone see Ceaser Milan interviewed by Alan Titchmarsh?

Yes and I thought Alan Titchmarsh did a brilliant job. Finally someone stood up to him and asked him the right questions, for which CM had no answer and tried to change the subject !
 
Ive not watched all of it with my crap connection, but regardless, I felt a bit sorry for him. Was a poorly conducted interview IMO.
 
I managed to stick with it, until I was half way through........

Titchmarsh is a gardener. Milan is a dog man, and a VERY good one. Does Milan teach Titch how to grow daisies?

One has had the odd plant die, and the other has been bitten by the odd dog. Does that make either of them qualified to judge the other? Does it F...

Alec.
 
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It really upsets me to hear that people still think CM knows anything about dogs. Good for Alan titchmarsh for giving him a hard time.
 
This is the first I have heard that people dont like CM, as a newbie dog owner (got my first dog 3 years ago) I have watched his programmes and feel like I have learnt alot by watching him, my dog is a total angel and it may be that I have been lucky but definitely feel that watching his programme has helped give me ideas and info. Not sure what I missed that made people dislike him? :confused:
 
I loved his programme aswell.

People have to remember he doesn't deal with the easy natured sunny disposition dogs he deals with a lot of really aggressive types who need firm guidance and that maybe uncomfortable for some people.

As I said he's the Parrelli of the canine world. Some people love him some people hate him.
 
Alec Swan said:
I managed to stick with it, until I was half way through........

Titchmarsh is a gardener. Milan is a dog man, and a VERY good one. Does Milan teach Titch how to grow daisies?

One has had the odd plant die, and the other has been bitten by the odd dog. Does that make either of them qualified to judge the other? Does it F...

Alec.
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well said

as for the comment about the RSPCA's view of CM pffft
 
BBH said:
I loved his programme aswell.

People have to remember he doesn't deal with the easy natured sunny disposition dogs he deals with a lot of really aggressive types who need firm guidance and that maybe uncomfortable for some people.
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exactly this. With some of the dogs that he deals with he is their last hope before the lethal needle, i think a short time in a shock collar to break certain habits may not be 'nice' but can be effective. Most problem dogs are caused by the actions of their owners, i'm sure there are plenty of owners that CM would like to stick a shock collar on instead of the dog! oh and for those that rage on about shock collars, do you use electric fencing for your horses?:rolleyes:
i thought CM conducted himself very well considering how rude AT was!
 
I like CM, always have and always will.
Alan knows nowt!! (about dogs).

Trouble is, life is getting so molly-coddled that many can't bear to even contemplate 'a physical' re-enforcement during learning/training, so in doing so people are waving their arms in the air going 'omg, the animal/person/whatever is going to be so scared, so hurt and will die' move rather than, in my opinon the right reaction of 'he'll learn from that and respect'.
 
Alec Swan said:
I managed to stick with it, until I was half way through........

Titchmarsh is a gardener. Milan is a dog man, and a VERY good one. Does Milan teach Titch how to grow daisies?

One has had the odd plant die, and the other has been bitten by the odd dog. Does that make either of them qualified to judge the other? Does it F...

Alec.
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agreed!!

Ibblebibble said:
exactly this. With some of the dogs that he deals with he is their last hope before the lethal needle, i think a short time in a shock collar to break certain habits may not be 'nice' but can be effective. Most problem dogs are caused by the actions of their owners, i'm sure there are plenty of owners that CM would like to stick a shock collar on instead of the dog! oh and for those that rage on about shock collars, do you use electric fencing for your horses?:rolleyes:
i thought CM conducted himself very well considering how rude AT was!
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agreed!
I wouldnt touch half of the dogs he gets. and as for 'that' video, I would have sent it straight to the vets! If I want to touch you or your feed bowl Im gonna friggin do so!! hardly like taking away a puppy or beating her over the head!!! he gives alot of dogs a chance they don't deserve. in my humble opinion, a dog shouldnt bite a person, never, under no circumstances (bar the life threatening such as the way fighting dogs are trained) hence the hundreds of loving dogs up and down the country that are being climbed on by kids now, god forbid I used to tack mine up and make her jump a course of showjumps!!! the worst she ever did was nap to the start! :rolleyes:

I dont suppose he loses sleep over his 'haters'.
 
I saw the interview and thought CM appeared bemused and puzzled but conducted himself very well, as for the RSPCA quote well anything for free publicity.

I do use some of CMs techniques as well as VS and others, it all depends on the dog and Im sure his dissenters would run a mile if they were confronted with some of the dogs he has to deal with. The prong collar for example all the people who chastise him for that I presume ride their horses in rubber snaffles.

As Ibblebible said if CM didnt pick up the pieces it would be a one way visit to the vet.

With the average mutt VS and others of similar ilk using kinder methods works fine, dogs with real behavioural problems need to learn bounderies and now not in 6months but now.
 
Just watched it and personally thought it was a rubbish interview. I like CM (the other half just goes on about his white teeth lol) It really is the same old same old with people not really understanding how the tools are used. Eurgh I find it very annoying how people feel that their opinion is right etc and don't even try and understand the other view they just shout on about what they think is right.
 
I didn't see the AT programme so can't comment on it. Neither have I see any of CMs programmes though I have seen him live and thought he talked a lot of sense.
I was talking to the trainer at the training class I go to last night about dog behaviour and training methods. She has been running classes for many years, and said that in the last couple of years she is getting more and more "problem" dogs, the majority of which have been to previous classes who just don't seem able to deal with dog aggression or other issues. This trainer has had GSDs all her life and is not adverse to use of a check chain if need be, although as the classes she runs are KC good citizen ones she has to recommend half check or flat collars.
Too many people don't even seem to want to raise their voices to dogs nowadays, and some dogs are totally taking the p***. Walking along stuffing treats into the mouth of your dog when it is trying to kill every other dog it meets just isn't going to help the problem.
 
MM I couldnt agree more, the people who make treats must be making a fortune:D. Good old common sense seems to have gone out the window, people dont teach their dogs bounderies anymore and fail to chastise their dogs, creating problems which in turn causes their dogs to get passed on.

My previous dog was passed on because the owner couldnt be arsed to train him, taking him to convential nice classes:rolleyes:got me kicked out, I doubt they had seen anything like him before. I found an old fashioned trainer not cruel but the dog had to learn consequences and I ended up with the dog of a lifetime.
 
also just to add Alan kept going on about the fact you wouldn't treat children like that...excuse me but I got disciplined as a child and perhaps the reason why there are so many problem children is the distinct lack of discipline IMO we seem to live in a backwards society. I knew my boundaries and so does my dog! Just a though...
 
lottiepony said:
also just to add Alan kept going on about the fact you wouldn't treat children like that...excuse me but I got disciplined as a child and perhaps the reason why there are so many problem children is the distinct lack of discipline IMO we seem to live in a backwards society. I knew my boundaries and so does my dog! Just a though...
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^^^ well said.
 
lottiepony said:
also just to add Alan kept going on about the fact you wouldn't treat children like that...excuse me but I got disciplined as a child and perhaps the reason why there are so many problem children is the distinct lack of discipline IMO we seem to live in a backwards society. I knew my boundaries and so does my dog! Just a though...
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Very true and thats half the problem people treating their dogs like children, they even have a name for it furbabies:eek:
 
MurphysMinder said:
I didn't see the AT programme so can't comment on it. Neither have I see any of CMs programmes though I have seen him live and thought he talked a lot of sense.
I was talking to the trainer at the training class I go to last night about dog behaviour and training methods. She has been running classes for many years, and said that in the last couple of years she is getting more and more "problem" dogs, the majority of which have been to previous classes who just don't seem able to deal with dog aggression or other issues. This trainer has had GSDs all her life and is not adverse to use of a check chain if need be, although as the classes she runs are KC good citizen ones she has to recommend half check or flat collars.
Too many people don't even seem to want to raise their voices to dogs nowadays, and some dogs are totally taking the p***. Walking along stuffing treats into the mouth of your dog when it is trying to kill every other dog it meets just isn't going to help the problem.
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Well said^^^and I agree with your trainer, and if we thought we had issues with "discarded" dogs till now.........watch this space as its getting a hole lot worse and dog behaviour is spiralling well out of control, some dog owners can't even change a vocal according to an unwanted behaviour (pathetic):rolleyes:
 
lottiepony said:
also just to add Alan kept going on about the fact you wouldn't treat children like that...excuse me but I got disciplined as a child and perhaps the reason why there are so many problem children is the distinct lack of discipline IMO we seem to live in a backwards society. I knew my boundaries and so does my dog! Just a though...
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I did not watch, but indeed if he compared a dog to a kid.........well "say no more":rolleyes:
 
Farma said:
This is the first I have heard that people dont like CM, as a newbie dog owner (got my first dog 3 years ago) I have watched his programmes and feel like I have learnt alot by watching him, my dog is a total angel and it may be that I have been lucky but definitely feel that watching his programme has helped give me ideas and info. Not sure what I missed that made people dislike him? :confused:
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Ignore them..this happens regularly on here. It's just some people are hard to please and resistant to anyone showing them that maybe they've got it wrong where dogs are concerned. Damn Mexican trying to tell us Brits how to manage our dogs! The cheek of him..pah!,
 
Maybe if he bothered to learn about dogs body language he would do beter, its very sad that people who call them selves dog people think hes ok.

prong collars, electric shock collars, alpha rolls etc etc all great training methods NOT
 
itsmylife said:
Maybe if he bothered to learn about dogs body language he would do beter, its very sad that people who call them selves dog people think hes ok.

prong collars, electric shock collars, alpha rolls etc etc all great training methods NOT
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I've not watched THAT many CM shows - but I do flick past and watch some segments now and again. I have maybe seen the odd prong collar on the show, but not electric shock, alpha rolls employed by him. Which lends me to believe that it's not something he uses willy-nilly - but as a last resort. I don't have issue with prong collars if used for a very specific purpose and correctly. Just like I don't have issue with riding my horse with a bit, use spurs, use a schooling whip. Do I haul my horse around with a too gentle bit when maybe a pelham would be better? NO. But i don't advocate overbitting either.

Lets just put what he does in to context. But at the same time no-one wants to see on TV the too-easy to fix - the whole Hollywood element is the really difficult dogs being "fixed".

As a professional dog groomer, I see a lot of really badly behaved dogs. Some of his methods DO work - but they have to be impecibly timed.
 
There does seem to be a terrible outcry about the way dogs are treated and trained. But I do find it funny the way that doesn't spill over into horses. People seem to compartmentalise animal 'abuse'
 
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