Difference between buckskin and dun?

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Hope the picture comes out, first one I have tried to post, so fingers crossed

This is Rooster, Toys Triple Chick an American Quarter Horse Homozygous stallion. You can see the dun factor e.g. leg barrings, dorsal lines, transverse line over his wither etc

Dun factor comes in all colours and shades, red dun, grulla (black dun), dunalinos (with cream factor) and many shades in between.

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Yes KarynK it is the bay in my siggy..I do beleive you could be right with the explaination of a Black and tan purely because I have always felt a tad uncomfortable calling her a dark bay because of her much paler areas she almost has dartmoor/exmoor colourings with a mealy mouth ginger areas up the back of her legs stomach area....but thank you for your advice if I was going to put her to a double dilute I would probably get her colour genes checked...especially as her fathers grey
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lord know what I could end up with
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these colour genetics have blown my mind today..
 
Thats interesting she is a really golden palomino and dad looks very dark. So possibly the source of Legrande's sooty? Dad could be a black and tan?

It's a bit fustrating at the moment not knowing exactly what a bay looks like!

I am sure that it's the bright bay's that produce the golden buckskin and the black and tan's the dark buckskin's as it's only the tan bits on these horses that "show" as buckskin and a bay would be all "tan" apart from the extremities, so it does make sense.

But then again with all the coat shades there are probably more factors involved than just one or two genes.

My sister and I are planning a little summer project around this!!

BTW he could really move as a foal!!!
 
Yes Law I would put money on that one!!! Thinking back actually when I was a kid we had some welsh cobs, the stallion was paler palomino the mare almost black but called a dark bay then. The foal they produced was a dark buckskin but an obvious one (we called her a dun!!!) She has a foal to an English TB almost black and produced a foal very much like your boy!

These are some pictures I took recently of Grand National Winner Amberleigh House at the National Stud. He is by the aptly named Buckskin. I think possibly that black and tans are very prevalent in the TB in the UK probably more so than bays.
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I have always felt a tad uncomfortable calling her a dark bay because of her much paler areas she almost has dartmoor/exmoor colourings with a mealy mouth ginger areas up the back of her legs stomach area....her fathers grey .

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You are safe with the grey, it's a dominant and would show if your mare had it so she hasn't, dominants cant be carried so she cannot produce a grey unless you breed to one.

Interestingly pet DNA tested Dartmoors I think, they were all black and tans!!
 
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OK I will then try to give you an idea of what I think he is.

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This is my friend's colt - at about 7 weeks old (I think)

You can just about see the darker hairs underneath on his backside
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I have always felt a tad uncomfortable calling her a dark bay because of her much paler areas she almost has dartmoor/exmoor colourings with a mealy mouth ginger areas up the back of her legs stomach area....her fathers grey .

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You are safe with the grey, it's a dominant and would show if your mare had it so she hasn't, dominants cant be carried so she cannot produce a grey unless you breed to one.

Interestingly pet DNA tested Dartmoors I think, they were all black and tans!!

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Aha very interesting ind informative...also got it wrong her mothers was grey ID her father Bay TB but looking at the grandnational winner her colours almost identical...she has the pale mouth and the ginger marks which I have just always called her dappled....so I do think she is Black and tan
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so probably would'nt get that buckskin foalie then *stomps foot*
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He is definitely a palomino, the darker colouration is probably sooty colouration coming through. Palomino's colour can range from a really washed out pale yellow, to a rich dark chocolate colour.

He is lovely, BTW a very handsome foal indeed.
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He is lovely, BTW a very handsome foal indeed.
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Thank you - he's the first foal by her young stallion so she's extremely pleased that he's turned out so good. I've told her to keep him but she has to sell unfortunately - wish I had the money to buy him
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