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i bought a very overweight welsh x back in the Autumn with the usual get the weight off, re-school sell on agenda..

well, things haven't been going to plan and still aren't.

he was bought to sell on ASAP....friends had him at their yard on Boot Camp regime, walker, lunging, limited grub etc etc..

anyhow finally got sufficient weight off him to put on some tack...and there is when the "fun" started.

he was a nappy, badly behaved bugger, with a party trick of dropping his shoulder and whipping round and if that didn't unseat you would bronk ...and bronk...and bronk....and..you get the picture.

this continued for several days with the bronking getting more and more "determined" to the point where if the jockey managed to stay on, the pony would put itself on the floor..

he's had several back treatments and had his teeth done and tack fits ok.

he is an absolute saint to handle, lead, tie up, on the roads, loading and very amiable in the paddock.

Well today, i've had the vet check him out as he was passing after i rung him this morning.....and things don't look good.


firstly, after getting rid of seedy toe in 3 hooves, he now has Laminitus in all 4 feet ....and a strong possibility of, at best a damaged nerve in the wither area..at worst KS..


as this pony is very unlikely, due to his size and the laminitus, going to be a "companion"..who wants a companion that needs rescricted grazing/stabling??...or a kid's riding pony, there aren't too many options for him, are there??

i'm loathed to spend £££'s if i'm honest on £200 pony....

As i'm feeling very pants ATM anyhow, with some virus bug thingy, i just can't get sorted.

OH says we aren't to give him bute til we decide if he's to go to Potter's or we won't have that option either....

i won't be keeping him as a field ornament and as i said companion options are limited..


any other ideas would be gratefully received.
 
I tell you what, I am sure you'll think more clearly and more optimistically when you're feeling better. Others will no doubt make suggestions regarding the pony, but try to relax and get yourself feeling better in yourself first. Everything seems so much more bleak and pointless when your feeling crud.

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oh no, sorry to hear this..
sorry to be cheeky but you could give him away to that wanted advert for free but will pay £100 delievery lol..

put him up as a compainion pony?
 
I would probably have horse PTS. Field ornament = not an option for you; companion = unlikely to be a goer for most people; riding horse to sell on = not likely to be a goer either witht he sounds of it, and with laminitis the pony is going to cost you ££££s before you can even resume any level of schooling.

I am not into the idea of pts for no reason, but I had my own mare pts in July when her pedal bone had rotated enough to penetrate the sole. I think pts is just so much kinder in many circumstances; and where a pony's future is uncertain and their quality of life will always be limited, I'd pts.

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I agree with your OH...
The danger is that the pony will be found a 'companion home', sold to a dealer, then to a family and then the downward spiral kicks in...
Imagine the guilt you'd feel if pone ended up at Spindles farm the second...
 
i know everyone has a diffrent oppinion on having horses PTS and that and i know its not all great but at the way most of you are going you want 50% of the horses that are mentioned PTS... there ARE loving homes out there believe it or not, im NOT living in a dream world eaither i know it could end up at the knackers yard ect but there really ARE homes for life out there... my auntie in cornwall has got 5 ex race horses, she had a 15 yearold cob that had Laminitus yes she had her bad times but she did get better and went on to driving in weddings ect... i know im going to get stick for this post... but why? its just my own oppinion everyone has them... each to there own hey!
 
As others have said, you bought him to sell on, he is not going to be an easy pony and I assume that you are not so attached to him that to pts or take to Potters is not an option.

As you are a business woman, I would take to Potters and get what you can for him as meat.

You did your best to try and get him as a useable pony and he is not going to be that, or cost so much that you will end up spending more than you will get for him.

Use the money from Potters to buy another of your little scraps and give them a chance to be a good useable pony ending up in a good home.

You do a wonderful job with these little chaps but sometimes things just don't work out.
 
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i know everyone has a diffrent oppinion on having horses PTS and that and i know its not all great but at the way most of you are going you want 50% of the horses that are mentioned PTS... there ARE loving homes out there believe it or not, im NOT living in a dream world eaither i know it could end up at the knackers yard ect but there really ARE homes for life out there... my auntie in cornwall has got 5 ex race horses, she had a 15 yearold cob that had Laminitus yes she had her bad times but she did get better and went on to driving in weddings ect... i know im going to get stick for this post... but why? its just my own oppinion everyone has them... each to there own hey!

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That's fab that your aunt can do that, but ex-race horses aren't likely to be bought for young children cheaply by parents who don't know anything about horses...This is a different circumstance.
 
yeah i do supose your right but there are others that will have him as a companion, my auntie dont just have ex race horses shes got alsorts as she owns her own horse farm and livery yard up the road (alright for some)
ok if i had to have an option on potters or PTS, id personly have him PTS, i couldnt bare a horse/pony to be cut up and fed to animals i just dont have the heart to do it sorry..
 
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yeah i do supose your right but there are others that will have him as a companion, my auntie dont just have ex race horses shes got alsorts as she owns her own horse farm and livery yard up the road (alright for some)
ok if i had to have an option on potters or PTS, id personly have him PTS, i couldnt bare a horse/pony to be cut up and fed to animals i just dont have the heart to do it sorry..

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potters = regain money, start the cycle again, potentially find a good home for another wee pone by putting time and care in
PTS = costs money

I think waste is the worst thing, and this way is the least waste opportunity...
 
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yeah i do supose your right but there are others that will have him as a companion, my auntie dont just have ex race horses shes got alsorts as she owns her own horse farm and livery yard up the road (alright for some)
ok if i had to have an option on potters or PTS, id personly have him PTS, i couldnt bare a horse/pony to be cut up and fed to animals i just dont have the heart to do it sorry..

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Potters isnt 'being fed to animals'.....it's the first step en route to the human food chain....
 
In this current economic climate, finding somebody to take him on with his problems and being prepared to pay out for him with very little chance he will ever be sound enough to be of any use ( Thinking more of the laminitis side of things) then I would do the kindest thing for the horse and have him PTS.

I know it sounds hard but he obviously has had the problems for a long while. However he is your horse so it's your decision but best wishes whatever you decide.
 
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i know everyone has a diffrent oppinion on having horses PTS and that and i know its not all great but at the way most of you are going you want 50% of the horses that are mentioned PTS... there ARE loving homes out there believe it or not, im NOT living in a dream world eaither i know it could end up at the knackers yard ect but there really ARE homes for life out there... my auntie in cornwall has got 5 ex race horses, she had a 15 yearold cob that had Laminitus yes she had her bad times but she did get better and went on to driving in weddings ect... i know im going to get stick for this post... but why? its just my own oppinion everyone has them... each to there own hey!

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I know this, but JM07 bought the horse to school and make some money on. I had my own mare pts because it would have been disgraceful to keep her alive at that point.

As you say, it's just everyone's point of view and doesn't mean it is right; but the pony has ridden problems that may or may not be related to the laminitis, which mean it may or may not be a viable option for someone who wants a riding horse. The pony has laminitis in all 4, so will need very careful management for the rest of its life, which may or may not appeal to someone wanting a companion, especially when you consider the costs as well. JM07 also stated she didn't want a field ornament (and why should she? she bought the horse to sell on). These factors, as well as my own experience with my own horse, are what led to me saying 'pts'.
 
How bad is his lamintis? If it's not too bad could you prehaps get him better then sell him as a driving pony? (Then all his ridden problems won't matter), don't know, just an idea. I hope it works out for you whatever you decide.
 
xsammiex.....

he wouldn't be much use as a companion if he has to stay in a barn 24/7..or on rescricted grazing..on medication.

his options are, i'm afraid, very limited.

i could Bute him up for the next 2 weeks and take him to Exeter Sales, with some spiel about not being ridden all winter as child has lost interest, get 200 qui for him, and leave him to his fate.....

thats not practical either is it??

as TheresaF has said, i will do the decent thing by him, i think i will use his "money" to pick up another scrap that needs a chance and take it from there....
 
How soon can you PTS?... If he has lammi in all 4 feet I assume he's in pain.... I'd stuff him with bute till you can pts...and take a loss
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i would risk braking him into drive because just because he isnt under saddle, would not mean he wouldnt present the same problems! and could prove just as dangerous!

would you want your child on this pony? it is a very sad situation, but business is business and welfare issues would come alight further down the line.

Prevention is better then cure
 
That's the best thing IMO, JM07.

Doing the sales thing, I know, is not something that would sit comfortably with you. Getting the pony better will take time and money (out of your profit), as you know.

You're doing the best by the pony. Some people really have huge success stories with laminitics (not far gone), but it's a very personal decision, and one which is complicated when the pony has not been bought as a personal 'pet' or riding horse for yourself, but as a work project. Complicated yet again by the ridden problems.

Good luck, JM07.
 
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How soon can you PTS?... If he has lammi in all 4 feet I assume he's in pain.... I'd stuff him with bute till you can pts...and take a loss
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he will go tomorrow or friday....

i'm not involving the vet or the hunt...i need to recoup to feed the others, i'm afraid
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i know everyone has a diffrent oppinion on having horses PTS and that and i know its not all great but at the way most of you are going you want 50% of the horses that are mentioned PTS... there ARE loving homes out there believe it or not, im NOT living in a dream world eaither i know it could end up at the knackers yard ect but there really ARE homes for life out there... my auntie in cornwall has got 5 ex race horses, she had a 15 yearold cob that had Laminitus yes she had her bad times but she did get better and went on to driving in weddings ect... i know im going to get stick for this post... but why? its just my own oppinion everyone has them... each to there own hey!

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Not aiming to give you stick here...but am intrigued as to why you think keeping a laminitic kid sized pony who bronks, drops the shoulder with a deliberate attempt to dislodge its rider annnnnnnnddddd....with serious medical issues which will cost possibly £1000's to sort if done through surgery etc etc will find a loving home.

I understand there are loving home for ponies who have gradually got these conditions whilst at the home but I can't see that anyone in their right mind would knowingly purchase a pony with this sort of history.

PS...if you put 'I know I am going to get stick for this post' it implies that you do not want responses as it will tend to put people off responding to you. Its not 'giving stick'...think of it as constructive criticism.
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How soon can you PTS?... If he has lammi in all 4 feet I assume he's in pain.... I'd stuff him with bute till you can pts...and take a loss
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he will go tomorrow or friday....

i'm not involving the vet or the hunt...i need to recoup to feed the others, i'm afraid
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Oh ok...fair enough..poor mite. Makes you wonder what on earth has happened to them
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if it was just the Lammi, lankydoodle i wouldnt have too much problem selling him on as a happy hacker as he's a poppet in every way..on the road etc to handle..even small children can handle him..

its the behavioral problems whilst tacked up...and yes its with just a roller as well as a jockey
 
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i could Bute him up for the next 2 weeks and take him to Exeter Sales, with some spiel about not being ridden all winter as child has lost interest, get 200 qui for him, and leave him to his fate.....

thats not practical either is it??



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It is practical, just not honest (which im sure if was to happen, its unlikely to be advertised on the forum)

Sad situation, Potters i suppose
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well whatever you diecide to do i hope its the right thing for him, bless him..

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oh, believe me..everything i do is the BEST for any of my ponies....be they keepers or sell-on's
 
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