DIY Livery- what's included in the price at your yard?

[chocolategirl]

Hi all just wanting to find out what you get for your money per week? Does yard owner feed in morning for example or hang haynet up so you can have a lie in etc? Do you pay for ALL extras like these? Does DIY really mean DO IT YOURSELF on your yard or do you get all these things included in the basic DIY price. Would like to hear from YO's too please!Thanks!

 

[teasle]

For diy we get a stable, space in a field to turn out, use of school, secure tack room and a bit of storage room. Services are extra or liveries help eachother.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

When I did DIY at my yard, they would get: stable, paddock (x2 or live with mine) and half a 12x12 stable for storage.
I never did anything else, except only for emergency or holiday cover, having made it quite clear before they came that services were not available as a routine offering.

 

[gingernut81]

Turnout, a box and a place for storage but that's it. I do and pay for everything myself but we help each other if needed, but it's a very small yard.

ETS: last yard had round pen and school usage included.

 

[EquestrianFairy]

We get stable/turnout/storage/school and hay/haylege included.

Extras are to be paid on top but they are available and I couldn't be without them. It's like £1 to have your horse turned out/brought in for example.

 

[spike123]

stable, turnout either in a group or individually, secure tackroom, tea room and use of schooling paddock but not a proper school and a space in the barn for hay and straw etc. No assistance is available but we help each other out as and when it's needed. Again we are a small yard but hacking is less than 5 minutes to the beach so we are quite lucky really to have that.

 

[liberty and tommy]

at my yard we get a field to turn out in a stable each, a shared tack room (although at my old yard with 12 people on diy we each had our own, some people did share although this is very rare) 24 7 use of a flood lit school and some storage space to keep hay bedding and feed.
hope this helped!!

 

[*sprinkles*]

I pay £182 per month for DIY livery and included is a stable, use of the indoor school, outdoor school, cross country course and all show jumps, turnout in a group (although it's tailored. The staff are very good at matching horses that are likely to get along and changing things if it's not working out) hay and straw, space to park my trailer and space in the tack room and feed room. It is supposed to be completely DIY with extras charged on top for example if you need your horse turned out or brought in or rug changed etc but TBH the staff will often just help out along the way anyway. I was 15 minutes late one morning due to traffic and arrived to find my mare already turned out, rug changed and everything. We are so lucky with the great staff we have. If you require things doing regularly though it is just added onto your bill.

 

[liberty and tommy]

wow! thats really good!

 

[twiggy2]

DIY cost covers use of the facilities nothing else, an allocated stable/tack room/storage area/field space/use of manege/round pen/jumping paddock/off road hacking-all services are available at extra cost

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

DIY is DIY, strictly that. I'm a YO who offers DIY and I don't do ANYTHING for anyone's horses unless there is either a pre-arrangement i.e. I might hold for the vet or farrier if owner cannot be present, or feed, or whatever: OR if there is an emergency or weather sit where owner can't get here, then I am happy to "do" horses if needs be as I live on site and its relatively easy. But routine stuff like feeding/bringing-in is NOT included in my DIY set up and I make this VERY clear both verbally AND in the livery agreement.

I provide: field, loose-box for each horses, storage for livery to store her hay/feed/bedding away from "my" area, plus she's allowed to park her horsebox here free of charge (but at own risk). She is also allowed to use part of the field as an arena in the summer and/or stick up a few jumps. She has her own lockable tack room, which again is separate from my area. There is a professional security alarm installed on-site.

Livery has own dedicated fields, i.e. her horses are kept separate from mine and she's allowed freedom as to how she sub-divides it - and is responsible for the upkeep of electric fencing if she chooses to use it.

I maintain the paddocks, fencing, stables etc - that is my responsibility.

She has currently three ponies on site; and pays £100 per calendar month. She's an excellent livery; the best I've ever had - and by gosh a good livery is like a gold nugget, not easy to find and you want to hang on to one once you've found one

 

[Arizahn]

DIY at current yard would include the following:

14' by 14' stable
Ad-lib hay (owner responsible for filling their own nets)
Use of facilities (parking area, tea room, loo, tack room, feed storage area, floodlit outdoor school with showjumps, cross country course, and very quiet hacking)
Morning turnout into either paddocks or all weather areas
Morning feed and hay put in (owner makes these up and leaves ready the night before)

All horses are checked three times a day as standard, regardless of whether they are on DIY or Full livery. Last check is around 10.30pm They sell shavings on site too, so very handy.

 

[xgemmax]

I pay £40.00 a week (£173.33pcm) which includes a stable, paddock, use of floodlit school. First to the yard feeds in the morning and puts haynets in if we leave one out. Other than that it is very do it yourself, can pay extra to have horse turned out but i prefer to do it myself

 

[ihatework]

DIY on our yard is Box/Paddock and use of facilities. However YO likes to feed all horses together so insists on putting made up feed in morning & evening plus would hang a ready made haynet too. The yard is primarily part/full livery and the DIY charge is quite steep (£70 pw) so you tend to get little extras thrown in and not get charged.

 

[HeresHoping]

£31/week and we get stable, tack room, paddock share with one other, including winter corrals and use of the school. Floodlights are extra (£1/week). Hay and straw extra.

 

[DW Team]

Pay £120 a month
For this we get
12x12 box with water tap
Field to turn out
Use of indoor school with lighting
Outdoor small wood chip school
Lunge pen
Large outdoor jumping school with use of jumps
Two or more horses you have your own tackroom

 

[Jsye]

I pay £16 for stable, turnout and use of small indoor/larger outdoor school. I get a wooden pallet for storing shavings etc. Hay is paid for seperately but i pay around £15 per week for hay and straw is available for £2.50.
Can pay £2.50 per time to use the horse walker and YO will put them on it during the morning. My horse also gets fed in the morning monday - friday.

I think i've got a good deal!

 

[julie111]

We have 3 1/2 acres, one stable in case of an emergency, shed to store some hay and mains water, we pay 10.00 per week per pony so 80.00 a month for two. Hacking is mainly roadwork but we have a trailer so can box up and take them to forests and bridlepaths 10 miles away

 

[noodle_]

DIY - indoor/outdoors (2).... grazing.stable and thats about it!


can pay for extra services from the yard staff which full livery will be a must for me once/twice a month

 

[Pendlehog]

I would say my last yard was pretty unusual but we go a stable, individual storage area accessed from the back of the stable, group turnout, 3 small bales of hay and 3 small bales of straw! We made up feeds and haynets at night to be given by YO in the morning who would then turn out for us. If I could find another place like that I'd be there in a shot! Decent hacking and an outdoor school too...

 

[MerrySherryRider]

Basic DIY is £25p/w with discounts for additional horses. Grazing appropriate for the horse's needs. Menage. bedding and forage delivered or can be brought in.
Horsewalker and hot shower with solarium £5 extra.
Free lorry parking.
Full livery cover offered as extra, clipping, plaiting etc or just individual services like turning out for £1.50.

its a large professional yard where the horses come first and the YO ensures that no horse is ever left without hay, left alone in a field or cold/hot. They look after the horses all the same and don't charge for intervening.
Also offer transport for the cost of petrol and will give up a morning to escort horses to the vet or sit with a sick horse overnight to give the owner a break.
Superb yard.

 

[chocolategirl]

Hi all thanks for all the replies so far. The reason I started this thread is that I am about to revise my price list and am thinking of including other small services that I do t already have on my list. I am finding that increasingly, I am getting asked 'oh would you just mind takin her boots off for me tonight', or 'would you just put his tea in for him and tie his haynet up'. These things all take me time and effort and as I only charge £26/£27 per week for fab new stables fab facilities etc, I have just had to start drawing the line recently. That said, I am willing to do all theses things, but there is going to have to be a charge for them however nominal that charge may be. Would you agree with this? Incidentally our horses go out all day every day, and in summer 24 hrs from April to end September at the earliest thus costing owners livery only. I feed virtually every morning at 6.15-6.30 for no charge, occasionally one of the others gets there before me, and I do a late night check. Guess I'm just feeling a bit peeved at the min as I feel the more I do the more people expect! I think people sometimes forget just what DIY stands for !😀😀😀

 

[chocolategirl]

Pay £120 a month
For this we get
12x12 box with water tap
Field to turn out
Use of indoor school with lighting
Outdoor small wood chip school
Lunge pen
Large outdoor jumping school with use of jumps
Two or more horses you have your own tackroom

Wow!!you sure get a lot for your money!

 

[Toby_Zaphod]

DIY at our yard means large stable, large individual paddock, floodlit arena that never floods or freezes, secure tack room, large feed room, rug hanging area, washing machine, loads of barn storage, lorry parking & horses fed each morning. There is cctv & great security. There are only 5 horses on the yard & we help each other out if help is needed but primarily we are DIY. Love it, been there 3 years & will be there until the boys die.

We buy our own feed & buy large bale haylage between us all.

 

[twiggy2]

where I am the going rates are;

bring in £1.75
turn out £1.50
hose legs £1.50
put on or take off a PAIR of boots 50p
pick out feet £1.50
hang haynet 50p
put feed in 25p
remove one rug and replace with another £1

hope thats helps, it is DIY £90 per month, for 12 x 12 stable, field, two outdoor schools and round pen all with lights, one tap per block of 8 stables, off road hacking on 100 acres, live out from clock change spring till the ground is too wet, you can turn out every day-NO exceptions to the turn out ever

 

[Murphy888]

Hi all thanks for all the replies so far. The reason I started this thread is that I am about to revise my price list and am thinking of including other small services that I do t already have on my list. I am finding that increasingly, I am getting asked 'oh would you just mind takin her boots off for me tonight', or 'would you just put his tea in for him and tie his haynet up'. These things all take me time and effort and as I only charge £26/£27 per week for fab new stables fab facilities etc, I have just had to start drawing the line recently. That said, I am willing to do all theses things, but there is going to have to be a charge for them however nominal that charge may be. Would you agree with this? Incidentally our horses go out all day every day, and in summer 24 hrs from April to end September at the earliest thus costing owners livery only. I feed virtually every morning at 6.15-6.30 for no charge, occasionally one of the others gets there before me, and I do a late night check. Guess I'm just feeling a bit peeved at the min as I feel the more I do the more people expect! I think people sometimes forget just what DIY stands for !

Not surprised you feel peeved. I think the YO doing little extras only works in a certain situation, usually on a small yard where it isn't that much extra hassle and when people are grateful and do not take advantage of their helpfulness - IE: asking for boots to be taken off. Also very much depends on the time limits the YO has. As much as many people moan about extra charges price lists (some of them do seem very anal!) I can see why yards end up charging for x,y and z to avoid all the 'little favours' mounting up into a free livery service that moves further and further from DIY. I think you have to decide what you are and aren't comfortable with and draw the line, making it clear what the limits are.

 

[chocolategirl]

where I am the going rates are;

bring in £1.75
turn out £1.50
hose legs £1.50
put on or take off a PAIR of boots 50p
pick out feet £1.50
hang haynet 50p
put feed in 25p
remove one rug and replace with another £1

hope thats helps, it is DIY £90 per month, for 12 x 12 stable, field, two outdoor schools and round pen all with lights, one tap per block of 8 stables, off road hacking on 100 acres, live out from clock change spring till the ground is too wet, you can turn out every day-NO exceptions to the turn out ever

Yes thank you. This sounds very like our yard!

 

[chocolategirl]

Not surprised you feel peeved. I think the YO doing little extras only works in a certain situation, usually on a small yard where it isn't that much extra hassle and when people are grateful and do not take advantage of their helpfulness - IE: asking for boots to be taken off. Also very much depends on the time limits the YO has. As much as many people moan about extra charges price lists (some of them do seem very anal!) I can see why yards end up charging for x,y and z to avoid all the 'little favours' mounting up into a free livery service that moves further and further from DIY. I think you have to decide what you are and aren't comfortable with and draw the line, making it clear what the limits are.

Yes thank you! This is exactly what is happening. More and more is expected and because I've found it hard to say no, things have just escalated to a point where I have started to feel like I'm being taken advantage of. It's my own fault in a way, I just need to practise the word no, or just say yes of course I can do it, but there will be a charge!

 

[windand rain]

In my view diy means DO IT YOURSELF the best diy I had was a stable with a non leaky roof and a field fenced properly every other one I have been on has been if it leaks you Do it yourself, if the fence is broken you fix it yourself, get my drift everything that needed to be done you do it yourself. This has usually been because they have been elderly YO or it has been run on a shoestring mind you they have been relatively cheap. £25 per week per horse or there abouts. I now rent a field and to be honest the landowner has been wonderful he provides water and electricity including a mains electric fence unit, and has allowed us to put up flood lights for after dark poo picking in return all he asks is to have the rent paid by direct debit and that the field is poo picked daily into a trailer that he empties

 

[Cheshire Chestnut]

£91 per month and includes:
* large stable
* all year turn out (can have 24/7 turnout in summer months if you want)
* large outdoor school that never floods/freezes (floodlights £1 per hour on coin operated box)
* full set of Polyblocks jumps in school
* jumping paddock in summer with a full set of fancy show jumps
* alarmed tackroom/storage room
* individual hay/straw area per livery
* box/trailer parking
* 24/7 security - owner lives on site
* services available at extra charge (approx same prices as Twiggy)
* excellent off road hacking

I love it