Do fat riders make your blood boil?

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Actually, when I think about it, last night watching the Lucinda Green Clinic on Sky, there was a very large lady riding the most gorgeous coloured cob type and I did feel very sorry for it
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They were learning to jump xc and admittedly it was only small fences but when she got it wrong, I really felt for the poor horse. Lucinda kept saying, "this horse can jump, you're just not making it" as it kept ducking out to the side of a 2ft 6" roll top skinny
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And gosh did the horse have a pop on it
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I almost felt it was a waste of a good horse, as she probably wouldn't have the guts to jump it higher than what they did last night, although, I could be wrong
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I also watched this an d i though the horse seemed to be struggling with the xc. She wasnt very well ballanced either. Lucinder said the horse could jump 4ft odd. mmmm ide like to see that rider do it!
 
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saying they both should lose weight and it was plain wrong and unfair on the horses for them to try and compete at the highest levels whilst being overweight (I'm paraphrasing here obviously!), now everyone thinks it is absolutely fine? How bizzare!

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I think in this case, people are reading into it and taking it personally, when it is meant more as a discussion about people like the riders you mention.

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Personally I don't think somebody should be riding 4 star at that weight. She's obviously a talented rider, but she would make the job much easier for her horses if she lost weight.
 
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All I will say on this is that it is interesting that whilst people openly commented on two different american (I think they were both from the US) eventers on a recent thread, saying they both should lose weight and it was plain wrong and unfair on the horses for them to try and compete at the highest levels whilst being overweight (I'm paraphrasing here obviously!), now everyone thinks it is absolutely fine? How bizzare!

ooh, that just might have been the sort of thing i was alluding to...
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Again I dont think Kerilli is out to cause offence, taking it personally isnt worth it in my opinion.
Lexie your horse is obviously completely capable of carrying you - therefore you're not even in the bracket Kerilli was talking about anyway!

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Sorry but it doesnt say in the original post "does it make your blood boil when you see a fat rider on a horse that isnt capable of carrying them"

just "does it make you blood boil when you see fat riders and should they be banned from competing!"
 
Agree Lexie but I like to assume someone is speaking some sense rather than worry uneccessarily, obviously since it has arisen that that it was kerilli is alluding to and therefore no need to worry yourself.
 
ahem??!i weigh 15 stone and i am probably above YOUR game. not to brag or anything but i am at grand prix dressage level and can garuntee that i get a bl**dy good atore everyitme i go out getting placed every time...how old am i??16 how fat am i?quite but it doesn't mean that atleast three stoe of that isn't muscle and i am at the top of my game- THANKS.how rude... >=[
 
I remember the thread and the picture of that large lady eventing her little horse.
I don't think this was right, she IS big and the horse is having to work too hard. I would prefer not to see this combination competing.
Generally speaking large people riding doesn't offend me (a good thing too seeing as I am size 14) but I don't think it's right to make a little horse work so hard under a lot of weight.
 
Personally, no they don't because I think that for the people who genuinely cares for their horse they are not going to do anything that is gonna harm their horse including making their horse carry more than they are capable of.

What about the rider's that are far too tall for their horse/pony?
Surely that must affect the horse's balance?
 
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saying they both should lose weight and it was plain wrong and unfair on the horses for them to try and compete at the highest levels whilst being overweight (I'm paraphrasing here obviously!), now everyone thinks it is absolutely fine? How bizzare!

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I think in this case, people are reading into it and taking it personally, when it is meant more as a discussion about people like the riders you mention.

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Personally I don't think somebody should be riding 4 star at that weight. She's obviously a talented rider, but she would make the job much easier for her horses if she lost weight.

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Im not worried I just think it is a very ignorant post....... no one would mind people shooting her down in flames if she were to say "do you think asians should be banned from competing!

Its very easy to backtrack and say that you meant it this way after people have become annoyed!
 
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Personally I don't think somebody should be riding 4 star at that weight. She's obviously a talented rider, but she would make the job much easier for her horses if she lost weight.

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I think i'm inclined to agree with you
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Do you not think there is more than enough of this PC cr@p in the world without adding to it? If the horse is capable of carrying the rider, there is no issue.


Aand what better way is there of having fun and shedding a few pounds than riding?
 
Thats true but personally I have never found Kerilli to be rude or arrogant and certainly never nasty - so perhaps Im judging her on past experience rather than one post. In effect, expecting the best of her rather than the worst. Maybe Im naive?

I could be wrong...
 
As we all know on here I am overweight!! I have taken serious steps to loose weight so I can ride my lovely, lovely mare! Last count I had lost 71lbs! I need to loose about the same again though!! I can also guarantee you that I weighed more than anyone on here ever dreamed it possible for someone to weigh and still be fit and active! One day I will tell the world how much I used to weigh - took along time for me to wake up and smell the coffee so to speak!

Was I riding when I was huger than I am now? Yes! Does this horse appear to be struggling? NO, why? Because he could cope with it and I NEVER demanded too much from him!!
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That maybe so..... I dont tend to notice or remember names on here so i cant comment on previous postings by the OP, Im sure she's very nice normaly!

I think this post, if you are overweight though would of course touch a nerve.... maybe if you were 4 stone over weight you wouldnt be able to still see the best in the OP!!
 
OK, going to put the cat among the pidgeons here:

I was 15st 8lb when I started riding my current horse who is by the way a 15.3hh heavy weight cob/driving horse who rides extremely light and airy for such a big animal - Since 15th March I have gone from being 14st 5lb to 9st 13lb and still riding the same horse. YES WEIGHT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE to the way you ride. When I was obese my riding and balance was no where near as good as it is now that I've lost the weight.

YES WEIGHT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE - I wouldn't have been riding a top class National Hunt Race Horse yesterday if I was still fat!

If the heavy person rides well, has the appropriate horse for their weight then fill your boots, ride out, compete and enjoy. But if you're heavy, underhorsed, unbalanced etc get your fat ar*e out of the saddle and lose some weight then get back on!

And my blood will boil if this has offended anyone because I've been 16st 8lb before getting to where I am now. I've been that person who was treated as though all fat people are lazy and you know what I wasn't lazy, I've always been active I just ate way too much and thats what overweight boils down to "eating way too much".
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And to be fair to you SportzNight, you look fab on your lovely horse.

We need something like him for my mum, she is 6ft though and weighs IRO 14stone.

Good luck on you weight loss campaign, I hope you get to where you want to be without too much trouble
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ahem??!i weigh 15 stone and i am probably above YOUR game. not to brag or anything but i am at grand prix dressage level and can garuntee that i get a bl**dy good atore everyitme i go out getting placed every time...how old am i??16 how fat am i?quite but it doesn't mean that atleast three stoe of that isn't muscle and i am at the top of my game- THANKS.how rude... >=[

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Should be fairly easy to figure out who you are then !

*thinks back to all the 16 year old GP dressage riders she's seen, and tries to recall the fat ones*

Do you actually know what GP dressage is?
 
I agree Lexie - maybe Im taking it a different way because Im like an ironing board - to my own disgust may I add! I can see how it might offend - i suppose Im just trying to help it not offend!! :-S
 
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Since 15th March I have gone from being 14st 5lb to 9st 13lb

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Hey, well done you, that's a fantastic achievement. I hope you feel great about yourself.
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Trundle - LMAO!!!!!!!


reminds me of a thread on a this forum, actually, about 4 years ago...
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i was talking about an act of cruelty i had witnessed 1st hand by an irish show jumper who has now gone to be a grand national winning jump jockey....no names mentioned of course...and some eejit ripped into me for criticising! his exact words were, 'I bet you're just some f&*^ing member's cupper...'

hmmm, how interesting!
 
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Since 15th March I have gone from being 14st 5lb to 9st 13lb and still riding the same horse.

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That is a fantastic achievement, Michelle. Can i ask, what did you do to achieve that weight loss? Was it simply "eat less, exercise more"? Did you cut out anything completely like sugar?
 
Hmmmmmm Michelle... I was about 12 stone when I gave up riding for 4 years, Im now 16 stone.... (good lesson for not giving up riding!!)... I recently had a lesson with my instructor who knew me when i was much lighter, she said I was rusty but not worse than 4 years ago, so Im not sure your theory can be applied to everyone!!!
 
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