Do people have no respect anymore??

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After reading various posts about liveries "borrowing" other people's things without permission and property being damaged with no one owning up, it strikes me that there is a serious lack of respect.

Have we become such a throwaway society that some people have even less consideration for other people's property than their own?

For instance We have tie rails on the yard, you tie up where you like and if someone has gone off for a hack or lesson and has left rugs etc I will move these out of the way of my horse before I tie up as he can be nosy and I would hate for him to chew someone else's things. I have come back from a hack to find someone has borrowed my head collar and my rug covered in goo from a lick and/or trampled on the floor!!

I have had mucking out tools used and left lying around the yard or worse still broken!

I have to say I will lend anything (except my car, trailer or horse!) if someone needs to borrow something, but why is it so hard to put it back where it came from??

Apart from that, I love my yard and most of the people are great, but it's a shame a few have to spoil things.
 
I had a flexi dandy brush that disappeared from my grooming box never to be seen again..(from before I moved my stuff into backplace out of main tack room)
People may do it out of genuinely not thinking about the repercussions or thinking person won't mind..
It drives me insane when I find doors unlocked when they should be locked at all times when no one present on yard. I have XXX mount of saddle and bridle in there, and to be left unlocked.. I don't mask my dismay either, if something not secure, I will say something. It's not always practical to bring tack home, we don't have the space, and it's not fair on my sharers. I make a song and dance everytime. I find myself checking the yard everyday as well, making sure.
Riding hat and boots, well that's something that shouldn't be borrowed mainly for hygiene and the possibility of being dropped/damaged reasons.
 
I must say it does seem as if that's the case! I am horrified by the 'borrowed' lorry post!! How DARE they?!?!

People at my yard are pretty good, however. But I do know one of the other liveries looses her 'special' broom with regularity!! :D (Anyway, I don't tend to leave anything at the yard that anyone would WANT to borrow! )
 
Well I went to use my shavings fork today and noticed it wasn't where I left it. Went to use it and the fecking prong has broke off it :rolleyes: I'm fuming. When I buy something I expect it to last until its at the end of its life span or until I break it! NOT someone else :mad: given they're about £30 anyway.

I also can't stand when someone's used it and the prongs go all wonky. WTf is that about!:eek: at last yard we had the guy that worked there mucking out full liveries, he would just use anyone's stuff and I tell you I nearly swung for him as I went to use the fork and jarred my wrist as the prongs were going left right and centre into the rubber matting!

I'm very picky, so much so when I help out at my friends yard, she had to buy a whole new mucking out set before I hit the roof with wonky prongs and worn down- one sided brushes!
 
I think its something that prevails in the horse world. Nobody would expect to move house & borrow the neighbours stuff indefinitely, but it happens on yards. Likewise nobody would go rooting through their neighbours shed & 'borrow' in their absence. Nor would anyone consider taking food from a neighbours kitchen in the way people 'borrow' hay & feed etc. You wouldn't expect the neighbours to provide free childcare, or give your kids breakfast, tea, collect from school etc but people think its ok to ask others to do their diy horse for free/ no exchange of jobs. Nobody would buy an unroadworthy car & expect a mechanic to make it good for free, but think nothing of asking people to train their horse for free, or train them for nothing. And what's suprising, is its quite often people who wouldn't behave that way in any other area of their lives, just around horses they think freeloading is ok. Drives me crackers.
 
Oh and just for another tuppence worth- same person has been using my knife that I cut carrots with :mad: but not for carrot cutting! Only to open bales of shavings with which have in no-end caused it to go blunt. And how did I find this out? - I was making my horses dinner up and went to cut an apple which was then engrained in rather spikey wood shavings! :eek:
 
We see these 'what would you do' and 'I just found out' type posts and I do feel for people who naturally want to avoid confrontation...

I'm afraid if you saw one from me it would be 'Some cheeky b****** used my <insert item here> and now I'm sat in the police station waiting to be charged with murder by inserting <insert same item identified here> up their nostrils....can anyone raise any cash to bail me out??'....

:D
 
I don't even own my own horse yet, but I've noticed that a lot of the time people do "borrow" without asking, and it's evident even just from reading posts on the forum that some people's morals could do with refreshing. Is it that hard to ask/ buy your own?!
 
DragonSlayer said:
We see these 'what would you do' and 'I just found out' type posts and I do feel for people who naturally want to avoid confrontation...

I'm afraid if you saw one from me it would be 'Some cheeky b****** used my <insert item here> and now I'm sat in the police station waiting to be charged with murder by inserting <insert same item identified here> up their nostrils....can anyone raise any cash to bail me out??'....

:D
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:D:D Brilliant, we'd have a whip round for bail
 
I have borrowed something mundane like a broom on the odd occassion - but always put it back in the same condition it was found.

I had an agreement with another livery that I could borrow her Parelli equipment as I bought my own kit a few bits at a time - it obviously went back dirtier but I obviously offered to wash it and bought a card, chocolate and some treats for her horse.

So no, I don't think everyone has lost their respect - but some people definitely have ... If they ever had it in the first place!
 
Dragon slayer :D, Quite lucky my yard everyone is respects other peoples things.
Not everyone has lost their respect but some are just plain inconsiderate when it comes to using/borrowing somebodys stuff.
I lent someone my spare bridle when they had a new pony, the cheeky person had tried to give me a old broken one back (Hoping I wouldnt hotice the difference) needless to say never lent them anything again
 
On certain yards I've borrowed from certain people. Always placed back where I found them. These are also the people that I know borrow my stuff and I trust them to do so. Never had a problem.
But that said its only daft things like - borrowing someone's bigger wheelbarrow when doing a deep litter muck out (she borrowed my little one for day to day pooing!), someone's horse getting loose and me grabbing the nearest lead rope and helping catch it, etc..

But saying that, I borrow stuff from my neighbours garden whilst their out. But they borrow from our garage whilst we're out too..

I think it depends who it is. If it was someone I barely knew or there was damage or item was lost then I'd be very annoyed!

One time I've been annoyed with 'borrowing' was when I came back from my first hack in a new hat. Put it on the side, untacked pony and put her in the paddock for some unwind time. Came back - not hat. Never saw hat again!!!! I moved off said yard shortly after as I felt I couldn't trust people any longer!
 
Well I would just like to say that not all people are like this!

We have gone up on two or three occasions recently to muck out and fetch in and we get there and to our surprise nice little stable fairies have already mucked out, changed water and done the hay!

So there are good folk out there it is just a matter of finding the right yard.
 
Yes the girl who keeps her pony at ours is often a poo fairy! If I'm unwell & hubby does my yard jobs he often walks out to find my horse turned out & that there has been another visit from said poo fairy. We don't keep a tab but like to think it evens out with me doing extras for her too.
 
Just to give hope not all yards are like that. Where I am (now at any rate) while we do borrow things like mucking out stuff, it goes back at the end in decent nick.
Personally I'm currently using a friend's pelham and spare set of reins on the pelham but it was offered and will be returned in better condition than it was when I borrowed it.
We also use same friends trailer when needed for vets etc (am going to be cheeky and ask if I can borrow to do a couple of shows this summer so long as friend isn't using it) however I always return scrubbed out and immaculate as well as a bottle of wine or similar because I really appreciate my friend letting me borrow these things. I would also make sure that anything damaged was replaced. I managed to forget about the breakaway cable when unhitching and broke it. I paid for the replacement without heisitation.
 
I actually found one of my rugs in the muck heap once! :eek: Someone had taken it off my horse, done up the straps again and then put it in the muck heap all the way up the road from his stable :confused::(
 
Seems that way... I can give you lot a list of about 50 things that have happened to me/my things/my horse in the 7 years I have owend him. He's been at home for just over a year now, and it is bliss !
 
Some people are just unbelievable! I have friends that lend/borrow stuff, but we trust each other and it works well. I hate it when people borrow stuff without asking or don't put it back when they've finished.
 
It drives me bonkers. As posted a few weeks ago, someone helped themselves to my haylage from my horse's haynets that were hanging up in her stable! Have since found out that we have 2 tea leaves on our yard. :(

'if you can't afford to feed it, don't buy one to start with!'.

It does make you wonder if people use my other stuff when I am not around to see!

Would love my own place, just got to pick those 6 little pesky numbers! :)


P.s, the lady I share a field with is worth her weight in gold. She too can be a mucking out fairy, which at the end of a busy 10 hour shift is absolute heaven. She gets choccies and free lessons for her valued help.
 
Older thread I know, but other people using my stuff is still annoying me. Having now been on the yard for two years, in which time seven other people have landed with their horses in the same barn, I am still the only one, bar one other, who has ever brought a wheelbarrow and a decent shavings fork and brushes into the area. These six other people, more if counting their part-loaners, use my wheelbarrow without ever asking in the first place, sometimes leaving it full overnight. Over the two years, no-one, bar one, has bothered to buy their own wheelbarrow as they seem quite happy for me to provide for them. As you can imagine, my wheelbarrow is now quite weary and has already required a new wheel, has been squashed and battered and is caked in dried poo. I can't understand people who opt for DIY livery but expect someone else to provide equipment for them.
 
my stuff used to always go missing at my livery yard...so now me and mum have a locked set of drawers to keep our grooming stuff in, medical stuff, boots and bandages, headcollars, hats, gloves, whips and bathing stuff - and our rugs are kept in a locked rug bin !!
 
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