Do you agree or disagree that a qualification should be mandatory for owning a horse?

Do you agree or disagree that a qualification should be mandatory for owning a horse?

  • Strongly Agree

    Votes: 19 18.8%

  • Agree

    Votes: 13 12.9%

  • Neither Agree nor Disagree

    Votes: 9 8.9%

  • Disagree

    Votes: 38 37.6%

  • Strongly Disagree

    Votes: 22 21.8%
  • Total voters
    101
honetpot said:
Three years ago I bought back a pony that I sold as a three year old, it had a least ten homes judging by its passport, and it had was fairly expensive pony, so I assume it would have been vetted, and had been to large competitions yet it was not microchipped. Even the breed society, as the new owners have to have it updated by them, had not noticed the chip information was missing. What caused its discovery was student vet doing things properly.
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Why did you not get pony chipped or checked for one when you had 1st time?
(I'm not trying to pick a row, but genuine question)
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Why did you not get pony chipped or checked for one when you had 1st time?
(I'm not trying to pick a row, but genuine question)
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I him owned before they had to be chipped by law, he had a full breed society passport.
www.gov.uk

Compulsory microchipping to improve horse welfare

A new law requiring horses to be microchipped has been introduced today to prevent abuse and improve welfare.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
I had him chipped, sent the passport back to the breed society with the chipping information completed by the vet, but for some reason they wouldn't add the bar code chip number, just recorded he was out of the food chain, which because he was older he was already.
It cost me about £120 to get the paperwork completed, but in reality it's pointless. When he was PTS due to a field injury the fallen stock never asked to see his passport and your bill is the proof that they have been disposed of properly. This is completely different for farm livestock where you need proof of where every animal went at the end of its life, and every movement is recorded with few exemptions. When you send them for meat, the carcass comes back tagged with all the animals and your information, and you complete paperwork before it leaves the holding.
 
When the fallen stock man collects dead sheep, he does not leave me anything about identity, just a slip of paper with what he collects ie ewe/ram/lamb/donkey/horse/pony I put this paper into my movement record book and the animal id under deaths (or untagged lamb for young babies). I do not know if he records any eid numbers back at base or not.
 
Just realised that BHS Stage 3 - or being able to have references outlining practical experience to the same level - is a requisite to manage a Riding Establishment in (Scotland & Wales).

This is not being enforced by our local authority.
 
WrongLeg said:
Just realised that BHS Stage 3 - or being able to have references outlining practical experience to the same level - is a requisite to manage a Riding Establishment in (Scotland & Wales).

This is not being enforced by our local authority.
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Has to be proven with evidence at time of licence issue, then someone of that level/experience should be on site each day.
 
Similarly under the old BHS approved livery yards scheme a Stage3/AI or above was required to be in overall charge under the scheme. I don't recall if they had to be on site at all times though or just 'available' to oversee.
 
WrongLeg said:
The license inspector is either not asking for proof or they are being misled.
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The proof has to be submitted when you apply for the licence as part of the extensive paperwork required - for example copies of certifcates, or references stating you meet the requirements. The latter potentially being open to abuse, yes.
 
teapot said:
The proof has to be submitted when you apply for the licence as part of the extensive paperwork required - for example copies of certifcates, or references stating you meet the requirements. The latter potentially being open to abuse, yes.
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Open to abuse, by for example, claiming the management of the yard is delegated to someone who isn’t actually on site/ has another job/ putting a different name on the insurance documents.
 
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