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At yard a friends dog got into a fight with another dog-not one more at fault than other- dog got yanked up by neck then slapped round the head hard a good few times.Asked them to stop.Didn't go down well.
I understand annoyed at fighting but my dogs get into fights and I hate it .We can't take one of them anywhere as she fights with other dogs and doesn't back down (do think with mine its a defensive thing got her from rescue place )but we just avoid/go out quiet times.
Now feeling should have just shut up as actually don't like confrontations so now mulling it over and over.God sound feeble!!
 
You did the right thing for the dog - no question ! If the owner doesn't like it, they shouldn't have been like that in the first place, and maybe should have had the dog on a lead ? sm x
 
I think you did the right thing -so many horrible things that go unmentioned because people are scared of the backlash - well done you!
 
I think you need a pat on the back. What kind of trainer would think that slapping a dog around the head will solve the problem?

Maybe they're also mulling this over. Perhaps they'll think about how to solve/prevent future problems as a result. :)
 
If Chloe gets into a dog fight she gets pulled away and smacked on the nose and yelled at loudly. Go on, shoot me. But if it stops her from ripping a chunk out of another dog (or having a chunk being ripped out of her!!) then great.
 
i agree with flamehead.... if my dog started the fight she would get a smack.

But theres no way id crack her on the head,
 
Oh ye I dont smack her on the top of her head or anything, she gets a smack on her nose, from the top i.e. knocking her nose downwards. But she WOULD get a smack if she'd started/encouraged the fight.
 
Dog was on a lead to be fair other dog wasn't.
Don't get me wrong not against smacking the dog(I've smacked mine if think they warrant it) it was the yanking up by the collar so suspended by lead in one hand and continually wacking it on the head as it was raised with the other I objected to.The dogs lower jaw was visibly shaking.BTW it is a small dog.Other day it apparently got practically thrown at a wall -not from a great distance tho and not deliberately aiming for it(I hope).
As said tho was prob better just leaving it.
 
TequilaMist said:
Dog was on a lead to be fair other dog wasn't.
Don't get me wrong not against smacking the dog(I've smacked mine if think they warrant it) it was the yanking up by the collar so suspended by lead in one hand and continually wacking it on the head as it was raised with the other I objected to.The dogs lower jaw was visibly shaking.BTW it is a small dog.Other day it apparently got practically thrown at a wall -not from a great distance tho and not deliberately aiming for it(I hope).
As said tho was prob better just leaving it.
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no i agree with you for saying something - what they did was uncalled for....

one (rat like) dog kept p*ssing mine off - she wason a lead, the rat kept running accorss the field and jumping on her annoying her etc - anyhow several times later she was so annoyed she turned round and pinned it down, i pulled her off and yelled at the dog to f off and the owner told her to put her effing dog back on a lead....

for that my dog just got yanked off and carried on playing, she didnt bite it - just pinned it. deserved it too.

so yeah depends on the situation but i wouldnt hit my dog on the head, tap on the nose when she thieves, to get her attention, but not so it hurts her.......

my dog is my best friend, but a dog when all said and done and they should know their place - but OP im with you on this, glad you pulled them up :)
 
Have the same problem with one of my dogs. At home he's lovely, but doesn't get on with his brother, when on lead he will go for any dog or person, so I have to choke him off, he's been attacked twice while on the lead,once on our own land,the lady smashed my rear lights as he had bitten her dog's ear,her dog attacked first. Sometimes I really have to have a go at him and try and let people pass with their dogs. He is getting slowly better after 4 1/2 years or I could have him put down. so perhaps the owner of said dog is in the same situation as me.:o:o:o
 
OP I think you did the right thing. There is no reason to continually hit a dog or any animal. Mine gets into scraps occasionally and he gets a shake of the scruff of his neck, but at the end of the day dogs are dogs. They don't have verbal reasoning skills, all they have is body positioning skills. Like people they choose the ones they like and don't like. I love the poster who put the thing about his dog pinning the rat like one down. Mine did exactly the same a few years ago. My dog was in my stable and one of the other liveries jack russell's kept jumping on him and pestering him when all mine wanted to do was sit in my stable. Eventually my dog opened his jaws and placed them over the terrier growling at it. He didn't get hold, but it scared the other dog so much it was lying there screaming! It didn't bother him again and other livery was quite glad it had had a fright as apparently it was pestering all the other dogs as well.
 
TBH Echobravo no don't think it is but it is a small terrier with a VERY strong hunting instinct.
TBH if it was that bad don't take it to yard with other dogs there if they think its going to attack every dog it meets surely thats asking for trouble or go to watch shows where there are lots of people/dogs etc.It can be taken to horseshows and on the whole behaves tho you do have to keep an relaxed eye on it in case another dog gets too close and may or may not take exception .I am ok going to shows with this dog but wouldn't with my one you would be continually pulling her out of fights or on your toes the whole time waiting for it-self fulfuiling prophecy then.Thats why I don't.My one (lab size) doesn't warn just launches without any apparent reason- sure she has one but its not obvious to me lol.
I have to do much the same as yourself tho felt like throttling her and yes its taken yrs for it to improve to lol. we just tend to be careful where and what time we go for walks now.
 
OP,

fighting dogs are like fighting children. You sort them out. Children you talk to, and dogs you stand "over", and you mean it. If that means a walloping, then that's what you do. Simple.

Alec.
 
You did the right thing OP all you did was ask them to stop it wasn't like you were hurling insults!
My dog is the same - very defensive aggression towards other dogs. However if we see another dog, I allow the lead to go loose and walk her briskly past it. If she growls or snarls, I use the tone of my voice to warn her - no point bawling at her, they have better hearing than us! I have occasionally sharply tapped her nose when she has gone for the other dog.
So you weren't speaking out of turn to ask them to stop their dogs from tearing chunks out of one another.
K x
 
OP i think you did the right thing, I can imagine that if the dog was being suspended in the air being smacked it would be having trouble breathing and would be very frightened.

I have 3 dogs(2 JRTs and an english Mastiff) I once took them to a park where a black lab continually ran at them nipping them, one of the JRTs went beserk and ripped into it after about 10 mins of harrasment but a single shout was all it took to stop him. I put them all back on the lead and was heading for the exit when the lab came back and starting diving at them again at which point the mastiff picked it up and threw it. If he had wanted to kill it he could have but didnt so I just took him home, amid abuse from the labs owner, :rolleyes: a well behaved dog will defend his 'pack' but should be easy to stop by the pack leader i.e the owner
 
Tequilamist:- I own my own yard, the dogs I take out on several miles walks and I always try and keep out of other peoples way, but if we do met other dog owners, I always pull into the hedge or grass verge out of their way. The attack on our property was when he was on the lead and the other dogs owners who'd been drinking and their dogs were running loose and we made the mistake of leaving my car outside on the track next to our gate. We had done nothing wrong. And the secound attack was by a golden retreiver and again my dogs were on their leads and he was running loose. So my dog thinks everyone or every dog is going to attack him so he try's to get in first,which is the trouble as most of the dogs and people we meet are pretty good, just that he goes into a hystrical fit.:o:o
 
TequilaMist said:
Dog was on a lead to be fair other dog wasn't.
Don't get me wrong not against smacking the dog(I've smacked mine if think they warrant it) it was the yanking up by the collar so suspended by lead in one hand and continually wacking it on the head as it was raised with the other I objected to.The dogs lower jaw was visibly shaking.BTW it is a small dog.Other day it apparently got practically thrown at a wall -not from a great distance tho and not deliberately aiming for it(I hope).
As said tho was prob better just leaving it.
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THe main problem with this, as you have pointed out, is that the dog was pulled up, therefore it was raised above the other dog, so infact putting it in a more dominant position, and as it obviously sees itself as dominant, all that happened is that the behavouir was reinforced, so in short it is more likely to do the same again and again.

At no point should it have treated like that, there is no excuse for hitting a dog like it, they do not communicate in the same way as us, the smacking has done NO GOOD.

My old boy could never go near other dogs, as he was treated this way in another home, however, he got on fine with 'his' own dogs at home, because he knew that what I said went!!!!! the main reason that many dogs react this way outside the home is because they are scared, so this absolutly unnecessary punishment has done nothing to cure.

I know you did the right thing, and you have no reason to beat yourself up about it, the owner of the little dog, should right now be feeling utterly ashamed of themselves.

I am by no means an angel owner ( I have also been asked by a few charities who know me to see if I can help with aggression), I have and do give a quick slap on the bum to get my dogs attention, but from what you have said, that is not right, totaly wrong, and they should take a good, long and hard look at themselves.

WELL DONE YOU

ps. sorry its long, but I feel soooo strongly about this
 
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