jakkibag
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Think its grey , thats what comes up on google Lol!!!
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Do you think this horse is greying out & what colour? pics
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springtime13
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Faracat - thanks for answering my question. Sadly, I don't know what colour dad was, but I had a feeling trakehners could be roan? At the moment he has chestnut legs and face with quite a pale body but with a definite pink tinge to it. The summer coat underneath seems to be much darker. His mane and tail initially look chestnut but do contain brown and some black hairs.
mjcssjw2
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just read somewhere that grey is just a modifier, so she isnt really grey genetically it just the grey changes the real colour, am i understanding that correctly?
slumdog
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Interesting thread! Babyhorse is a 15hh steel grey (or iron grey, is there a difference?) although he is passported as a 14.2 bay colt lol, I have been told he will fade out to grey (white) eventually as all steel greys do? Is this correct? He is nearly 6.
mjcssjw2
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lovely colour slumdog -well currently at least
Meowy Catkin
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OK, so that's two copies of grey. I'm guessing that your horse is going to grey out slowly then.
E = black base colour, e = not black/chestnut, but black is dominant over chestnut, so your horse is black based.
AA means that there are two copies of Agouti (causes bay).
C, I'm guessing is cream. I've normally seen it written as Cr. Two copies of cream would make your horse a pearlino, which doesn't look right at all.
p could be pearl.
ch = champagne.
z - silver
It's possible that this DNA testing company uses lower case letters for negative results when testing for certain colours. Normally you expect a key to help you understand everything.
OK, so that's two copies of grey. I'm guessing that your horse is going to grey out slowly then.
E = black base colour, e = not black/chestnut, but black is dominant over chestnut, so your horse is black based.
AA means that there are two copies of Agouti (causes bay).
C, I'm guessing is cream. I've normally seen it written as Cr. Two copies of cream would make your horse a pearlino, which doesn't look right at all.
p could be pearl.
ch = champagne.
z - silver
It's possible that this DNA testing company uses lower case letters for negative results when testing for certain colours. Normally you expect a key to help you understand everything.
Meowy Catkin
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Here is a rose grey. How does this compare with your boy?
You can see how the head is greying out and how the mane is going grey at the roots.
slumdog
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Thank you! I do hope he stays this colour 
RutlandH2O
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Thanks for that, Faracat.
Meowy Catkin
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All greys are born a colour and then grey out over time. Think of it like humans going grey. All greys continue to grey out as they get older but some grey out fast and some are slow.
My own grey was born chestnut, was white by two and is now (rising five) getting more and more chestnut fleabites.
So your horse was born bayy and will continue to grey out as the years go by.
springtime13
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Faracat - I'd say my boy has a more definite change from head to body (if that makes sense) his head is much more chestnut than the rose grey picture. Also, his mane is darker. This whole colour thing is so interesting!
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Photo needed.
mjcssjw2
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its all written in spanish, so dont really understand even though i have lots of pages of it, think CC means no cream! coz after these letters it says no se produce dilucian del color-
Ee says -existen ambos pigmentos,
chch says no se produce dilucian del color along with pp and the zz
AA says la presence de A restringe el pigmento negro a las puntos del caballo.
Anyway you see what she currently looks like lol
Ee says -existen ambos pigmentos,
chch says no se produce dilucian del color along with pp and the zz
AA says la presence de A restringe el pigmento negro a las puntos del caballo.
Anyway you see what she currently looks like lol
jakkibag
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springtime13
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Faracat, not the best picture
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...0226768384715.366251.778054714&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...0226768384715.366251.778054714&type=1&theater
Crugeran Celt
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Sorry to butt in but may I ask about my miniature mare who is registered as a skewbald. She is rising two and is chestnut with four white socks and a white stripe on the face, she also has a white stripe on her rump stretching from her tail down. She has a small white patch just below her ears on each side of her neck. She also has white hairs in her tail but has an all chestnut mane. The reason I am asking is because as she has started to lose her winter coat she appears to have a lot of grey hairs coming all over her coat and in some places there are so many that it appears as if a new white patch is appearing. Her mother is also a chestnut again with white socks and the same white stripe on her rump. Sire is palamino, grand dam (on mother's side is bay and grandsire is chestnut). She obviously is not going to grey out as neither parent is grey but do you think these white hairs will develope into proper white patches?
mjcssjw2
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wow jakkibag thank you very much, so we arent wrong with the dun bit!!
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It does make sense. What does it say by the G's?
jakkibag
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Lol, lucky find, but i have a HipoxPRE and the similarities are there, my dun i always presumed came from the Hipo side but it is apparently (ill wait for Faracat to confirm) in the pre's too!
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There is no test for Dun. However there is a Dun Zygosity test (looks for markers associated with the dun gene) and it's represented by the letter D.
You have to be aware that bay Dun and buckskin are often confused.
maggiestar
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Whatever colour he's meant to be, he's gorgeous!!Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons...this is my 14 year old BAY tobiano. Apparently he has a brown face with a big white blaze
The ONLY time you can see where his brown patches were, is (oddly) in autumn when starts to lose his summer coat. You can also see them vaguely when he is soaking wet! This is the end of last summer...for about 2 weeks you can see where his markings were. The rest of the time he is nearly pure white!
springtime13
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Fab news faracat!! Thanks for your advice. Can't wait to see him out of his woollies.
mjcssjw2
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Faracat - it says el ejemplar sera tordo con independencia del resto de la formula genetica. el proceso de aclaracion es mas rapido y tienen mayor probabilidad de sufrir melanoma y vitilago ( last bit doesnt sound too good eek)
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caseycat
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Please can you tell me how to go about getting a DNA colour test or any other type of colour test, also a rough price guide? Thanks
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Google translate is trying - bless it.
It came up with 'the copy will indepencia thrush with the rest of the genetic formula. the clarification process is faster and are more likely to develop melanoma and vitilago.'
Soooo, the last bit is probably referring to the melanomas that greys tend to get under their tails etc... I think that they may be using vitiligo as a general loss of pigment (greying out) rather than the medical condition of the same name.
Does your horse have any grey hairs coming through? I'm still going for sooty buckskin (to grey out, as the test says GG). I don't understand the CC thing, as your horse is not a double (cream) dilute. Cc would make more sense.
It came up with 'the copy will indepencia thrush with the rest of the genetic formula. the clarification process is faster and are more likely to develop melanoma and vitilago.'
Soooo, the last bit is probably referring to the melanomas that greys tend to get under their tails etc... I think that they may be using vitiligo as a general loss of pigment (greying out) rather than the medical condition of the same name.
Does your horse have any grey hairs coming through? I'm still going for sooty buckskin (to grey out, as the test says GG). I don't understand the CC thing, as your horse is not a double (cream) dilute. Cc would make more sense.
Meowy Catkin
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I just googled horse colour DNA test and this was one of the results.
http://www.horsedna.co.uk/index.html
Starbar - he probably was born a bay tobiano, just happened to have grey as well.
Gwena
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completely off topic. ...I'm gutted. Just googled the name & address in Princes**passport & it turns out he's from someone who had a big prosecution due to neglect. Explains his maniac eating. :-(
caseycat
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Thanks Faracat, looks an interesting site and not very expensive either