GinaB
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Docking ban, Desparate news for working dogs in Scotland!
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Tia
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It's called "thread hijacking" or "deviating from the original point" - it gives a bit of light relief and it happens all the time on this forum, however if you don't like it then I think you will be sorely disappointed with this forum.
Onyxia
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Docking for cosmetic reasons should have been banned a long time ago- no need for it.
However docking in working breeds to prevent injury I agree with, dont like it much but it prevents injury so worth doing IMO.
Docking for cosmetic reasons should have been banned a long time ago- no need for it.
However docking in working breeds to prevent injury I agree with, dont like it much but it prevents injury so worth doing IMO.
emma69
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Docking = amputation. Yes, I think that is pretty severe
Moggy in Manolos
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Well most have had their say so i shall have mine.
I think much crueller more terrible things happen to animals in this world, i cant say i have huge thoughts on docking, just animal cruelty, now that riles me right up, i do not agree with docking for cosmetic reasons at all, and that sadly happens alot. I dont know all the ins and outs of working dogs and related tail docking,it seems though that working dogs can have full tails from what i have read on this thread, so i think then- why should they be docked, this is my opinion and i like animals to be the way nature intended if they are good and healthy and happy,tail and all
I would agree to disagree with some of you however
I think much crueller more terrible things happen to animals in this world, i cant say i have huge thoughts on docking, just animal cruelty, now that riles me right up, i do not agree with docking for cosmetic reasons at all, and that sadly happens alot. I dont know all the ins and outs of working dogs and related tail docking,it seems though that working dogs can have full tails from what i have read on this thread, so i think then- why should they be docked, this is my opinion and i like animals to be the way nature intended if they are good and healthy and happy,tail and all
I would agree to disagree with some of you however
zizz
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so if its illegal to dock your puppies tail does that mean all the farmers are going to be banned from docking thier lambs tails?!
buzzles
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I've got a springer spaniel with a half docked tail who came from a rescue centre. Shes not a working dog as such but a pet and is very active. She comes hacking with me and is always disappearing into the woods and dense undergrowth so I can understand the need for docking working dogs tails, but definitely not for cosmetic purposes and as long as it's done humanely. Anyway my spaniel is the happiest dog I know and having a docked tail has in no way affected her in that I don't think she's had a lesser quality of life than a dog with a full tail! However she does 'wiggle' a lot when shes wagging her tail which is quite amusing and I've also noticed this in boxers, rottweilers and dobermen who have docked tails! Is this their way of substituting tail wagging for bum wagging?! As a matter of interest does anyone know why these breeds of dogs have docked tails and why are they docked so short?
Dougie
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so if its illegal to dock your puppies tail does that mean all the farmers are going to be banned from docking thier lambs tails?!
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that will be blairs next mission!!
so if its illegal to dock your puppies tail does that mean all the farmers are going to be banned from docking thier lambs tails?!
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that will be blairs next mission!!
Torryvald
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My field cocker has his whole tail, he regularly works and has nver injured himself. In most vets would agree that is it rare. People often tell me my dog looks 'weird with a tail!', time to come out of the dark ages - docking is cruel and should be banned.
MiLisCer
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My field cocker has his whole tail, he regularly works and has nver injured himself. In most vets would agree that is it rare. People often tell me my dog looks 'weird with a tail!', time to come out of the dark ages - docking is cruel and should be banned.
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What on earth is a field cocker? is that a breed you have invented as it certainly not a recognised KC breed.
Mike
My field cocker has his whole tail, he regularly works and has nver injured himself. In most vets would agree that is it rare. People often tell me my dog looks 'weird with a tail!', time to come out of the dark ages - docking is cruel and should be banned.
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What on earth is a field cocker? is that a breed you have invented as it certainly not a recognised KC breed.
Mike
Dougie
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maybe she means cocker spaniel that she works in the field??
im on the edge of my seat waiting to see what part of country life is going to be banned next...
im on the edge of my seat waiting to see what part of country life is going to be banned next...
jj4y
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Doesn't sound like the person is very knowledgeable on working gundogs from that post though
Tia
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How condescending.....
Dougie
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i hope u were using quick reply and not refering to me!
jj4y
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I'm sorry but this forum appears VERY hypocritical...its ok for some people to comment on what others have said and yet not ok for other people to do the same. The post was unclear, so was questioned....by 'field cocker' do they mean a cocker that is worked in the shooting field or a field spaniel x cocker??? As there is no such breed as a field cocker
Dougie
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i take you were replying to the other post and using the bx at the bottom?
jj4y
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yes dougie, had just used quick reply
Dougie
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oh thats fine then
MagicMelon
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I am glad the law has changed for all dogs in Scotland. With regard to working dogs - it has been done in horrendous ways in the past. If docking of working dogs tails was guaranteed to be done only by a vet then ok, but in the past it has been done badly by the owners themselves which I can only call barbaric. I do not know enough about the lifestyle of a working dog to decide if it need to be done or not. I have of course seen the odd picture of a working dog with nasty injuries to its tail but I do not know how often this sort of thing happens to merit docking.
The fact that some people do it for cosmetic reasons has always shocked me. I hate seeing dogs with docked tails - to me it looks nasty.
The fact that some people do it for cosmetic reasons has always shocked me. I hate seeing dogs with docked tails - to me it looks nasty.
severnmiles
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My field cocker has his whole tail, he regularly works and has nver injured himself. In most vets would agree that is it rare. People often tell me my dog looks 'weird with a tail!', time to come out of the dark ages - docking is cruel and should be banned.
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You're comparing a cocker to a springer...that laughable, I shan't bother to read any further...
My field cocker has his whole tail, he regularly works and has nver injured himself. In most vets would agree that is it rare. People often tell me my dog looks 'weird with a tail!', time to come out of the dark ages - docking is cruel and should be banned.
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You're comparing a cocker to a springer...that laughable, I shan't bother to read any further...
severnmiles
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I hate seeing dogs with docked tails - to me it looks nasty.
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Really nasty huh?
I hate seeing dogs with docked tails - to me it looks nasty.
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Really nasty huh?
severnmiles
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On second thoughts I rather like Milo, I'm not sure how Max and Paddy are bred, I'll ask them later though.
Lovely dogs!
Lovely dogs!
Romansmum
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I have three JRT's one who was docked when i got him and two undocked. My ladies have their tails as i never thought they'd work. My dad has 2 working Jacks and they are docked as they work.
One of my ladies (who has a particularly long tail) has broken it twice and shreads it when she goes chasing after rats etc. It's heartbreaking for me knowing hat al of that pain is caused because i didn't have her tail taken off. My other girly had a fairly short natural tail and she only cuts up a little. I should have realised that they will end up in brambles eventually in their life time
The vet has said that next time Biscuit breaks her tail he will take it off, under genral anesthetic which has all of the risks etc. she has managed to break it while out on walks, it has been bitten etc.
Here you go biscuit with her big ears and long tail
all three JRT's
Biscuit is in the middle jasper with his docked tail is on the right
One of my ladies (who has a particularly long tail) has broken it twice and shreads it when she goes chasing after rats etc. It's heartbreaking for me knowing hat al of that pain is caused because i didn't have her tail taken off. My other girly had a fairly short natural tail and she only cuts up a little. I should have realised that they will end up in brambles eventually in their life time
The vet has said that next time Biscuit breaks her tail he will take it off, under genral anesthetic which has all of the risks etc. she has managed to break it while out on walks, it has been bitten etc.
Here you go biscuit with her big ears and long tail
all three JRT's
Biscuit is in the middle jasper with his docked tail is on the right