Dog deliberatly run over by police...

[MurphysMinder]

Not if it was killed outright by one blow. It's not cruelty to kill any animal quickly, however it's done. The only possible charge would be criminal damage if it was someone else's dog. This dog's death was a lot more humane than driving it to a vet, shaving its leg and sticking a needle in it.

Really ? Not my experience of having dogs pts , and sadly I have had it done quite a few times. And I suspect even if a member of public killed a dog with one blow, if it was done deliberately they would face cruelty charges.

 

[ycbm]

Really ? Not my experience of having dogs pts , and sadly I have had it done quite a few times. And I suspect even if a member of public killed a dog with one blow, if it was done deliberately they would face cruelty charges.

What cruelty do you think there was?

If I thought I could get an instant kill, I'd run any cat or dog of mine over with my car before putting them in a car, driving them five miles to the vet where they know only bad things ever happen to them and where they will have to face strange animals when they are at their weakest, hold it down while someone shaves its arm and then have that arm held very firmly while they prick it with a needle which will kill it after a delay of which it is aware.

There was nothing cruel about that dog's death, it was instant. With a fox hound hit head on, that outcome was predictable, this is not a glancing blow of a dog running into a road.

The enquiry is a ridiculous waste of tax payers' money.

 

[Birker2020]

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What cruelty do you think there was?

If I thought I could get an instant kill, I'd run any cat or dog of mine over with my car before putting them in a car, driving them five miles to the vet where they know only bad things ever happen to them and where they will have to face strange animals when they are at their weakest, hold it down while someone shaves its arm and then have that arm held very firmly while they prick it with a needle which will kill it after a delay of which it is aware.

There was nothing cruel about that dog's death, it was instant. With a fox hound hit head on, that outcome was predictable, this is not a glancing blow of a dog running into a road.

The enquiry is a ridiculous waste of tax payers' money.

Whilst I don't agree with your sentiments about animals being pts at the vets (lets face it, if the owner keeps a clear head and is not hysterically crying they do not know they are going to die)and dogs live for the moment and do not have any concept of forthcoming death, I do agree with the complete waste of tax payers money as my comments previously stated.

I must admit the look of anxiety on our dogs face when the vet carried her into the room and placed her on the fur rug on the examination table to have her pts is something I will never forget, but I still do not buy she knew she was 'going to die', I think she probably thought she would be having her bum squeezed again bless her (anal glands). Neither of us cried in front of her. Nor did I with my horse. With the dog I am ashamed to say that I was so matter of fact with the vet about the procedure that I might just have been talking about what I'd had for tea the night before. But this was because I had actually gone into some kind of shock, and my hearing and eyesight went funny, and my legs and arms were tingling, I was having an anxiety attack. Afterwards was a huge sense of relief, but I was so upset that I couldn't stop crying for ages.

I could never run over anything larger than a rabbit myself. And that's only if it is already beyond any help.

 

[Merrymoles]

Off topic but I've had all my old dogs PTS at home by different vets over the years. Traumatic for me but not for the dogs.

 

[Nightingale]

What a rotten situation all round. The poor policeman was doomed whatever decision was taken. And so was the dog. I would hate to have been the officer called to that incident.
If they'd let the dog live, the risk is that it would have run into traffic causing a major pile up. Just imagine the headlines screaming about stupid risk-laded (and expensive) behaviour just to save some upper-class huntsman's hound.
So they ran down the dog, prevented a major pileup and avoided any human fatalities. Nope, that's not good enough either. Headlines scream about stupid sickening behaviour, not doing enough to save the terrified dog and failing to ending its life compassionately.
My sympathies to the dead dog and to the officers involved who are still living with all the abuse being fired at them by people who weren't there but somehow know they could have handled it better.

 

[Birker2020]

What a rotten situation all round. The poor policeman was doomed whatever decision was taken. And so was the dog. I would hate to have been the officer called to that incident.
If they'd let the dog live, the risk is that it would have run into traffic causing a major pile up. Just imagine the headlines screaming about stupid risk-laded (and expensive) behaviour just to save some upper-class huntsman's hound.
So they ran down the dog, prevented a major pileup and avoided any human fatalities. Nope, that's not good enough either. Headlines scream about stupid sickening behaviour, not doing enough to save the terrified dog and failing to ending its life compassionately.
My sympathies to the dead dog and to the officers involved who are still living with all the abuse being fired at them by people who weren't there but somehow know they could have handled it better.

Very well put Nightingale. Sometimes folks can't do right for doing wrong. I believe this is one of those occasions.

 

[minesadouble]

Slightly off topic but for the people talking of taking their dog to the vets to be PTS most vets will come and do this in your home if you request it. Way less stressful for both owner and dog IMO.

 

[Birker2020]

Slightly off topic but for the people talking of taking their dog to the vets to be PTS most vets will come and do this in your home if you request it. Way less stressful for both owner and dog IMO.

I am sure they would. I am still reeling from the suggestion that someone would rather run over their pet than take it to the vet to have it pts.

 

[ycbm]

I am sure they would. I am still reeling from the suggestion that someone would rather run over their pet than take it to the vet to have it pts.

Nothing quite like a quote out of context is there applecart ?

I would do anything to spare my animals that last indignity of the forced shaving and needle in the arm, IF I could guarantee an instant death.

I'm fascinated by the number of people who are more concerned about the method than the experience from the animal's perspective. Instant death, whatever the method would always be preferable for me. The most humane death any of my cats has had was the one killed with one blow on the road, who fell where she was hit. We were devastated. But she had a great death.

 

[Tiddlypom]

There's no way to be sure that you would kill a dog instantly by running it over, unless it is already collapsed and immobile on the road. A loose and frightened dog is unlikely to stand still whilst you speed towards it, is it? How many times do you hear of dogs seriously injured by a glancing blow from a passing vehicle who crawl off, shrieking, to die minutes later .

Shocking decision. I remain unconvinced that the dog's death was instantaneous.

 

[Mooseontheloose]

A friend, relatively new driver, swerved to avoid a rabbit and killed her passenger. It's natural response when driving to swerve. I would hate to have done it but better the dog than a car and passengers being hit by avoiding action.

 

[ycbm]

There's no way to be sure that you would kill a dog instantly by running it over, unless it is already collapsed and immobile on the road. A loose and frightened dog is unlikely to stand still whilst you speed towards it, is it? How many times do you hear of dogs seriously injured by a glancing blow from a passing vehicle who crawl off, shrieking, to die minutes later .

Shocking decision. I remain unconvinced that the dog's death was instantaneous.

The point is surely that dogs are killed on the road by people trying NOT to kill them? Glancing blows and injury and delayed death are to be expected in that situation.

My brother hit a dog when I was fifteen. He did what he had been told to do, hold his line and avoid swerving when it ran out in front of him, which would have been very dangerous on a dark country road at night. The dog, a Great Dane, died instantly. Unfortunately it belonged to one of my best friends, who never forgave me even though her sister was walking it off lead on an unlit country lane, while concentrating on her boyfriend.

I'll bet big dogs are pretty easy to kill outright with a direct and fast blow from a car. I hope I never have to test that theory.