Dog injured while at the vets

[fankino04]

So noodle went to have her tooth out this morning but her pre op bloods said her liver Alp was way too high so didn't risk an anaesthetic with her. I went to collect her later on this morning and she was lame, didn't have time to wait for a vet so said I would take her home, give her metacam and rest for a few days and see how we get on. She has laid down at home and now can't get up, metacam obviously hasn't touched the pain and when I called the vets to speak to them about it they said that nothing has happened while she was there. How could she be moving fine when I dropped her off and lame when I collect her if nothing happened?

 

[SusieT]

Has she any history of lameness? I am not sure there' much you can do if they say nothing happened.

 

[CorvusCorax]

What age is she, has she been lame before, is she used to being in a cage/crate?

I wouldn't give Metacam if there's already a query over her liver.

 

[fankino04]

What age is she, has she been lame before, is she used to being in a cage/crate?

I wouldn't give Metacam if there's already a query over her liver.

She's 12, no history of lameness, never been crate trained and don't have a crate big enough for her but can close off rooms to keep her in a small space when she is up and about again. Vet approved the meds...

 

[Sandstone1]

Strangely enough my dog has been quite ill after a vet visit. She went last week to have her anal glands emptied. Vet took her in as not allowed with them at moment. When she came out the vet said shes been very naughty which isnt like her at all. Apart from her anal glands she had been fine.
Later that night she started vomiting and having diarrhoea.
Had to take her back to vets next day as was so poorly. temp and not eating. Was told that they had a lot of dogs with same symptoms. Did she pick it up from vets?

 

[fankino04]

Sorry to hear about your dog sandstone, hope she's feeling better soon. I've done totally the wrong thing and been googling for nulas elbow and am now convinced she has had a bone tumour and in its weekened state the joint has now fractured ?

 

[Goldenstar]

We had one who came home lame from the vets .
she had hurt her leg she had been upset in the kennel and clawed at the mesh door .

 

[SOS]

What leg is she lame on? If a fore leg and they have never been crate trained they can often panic and when they jump at the bars stick their legs through/against it. I have seen a few dogs rip their dew claws or damage paws this way. It’s hard to prevent, crate training/training to be alone helps a lot. Bad ones we often end up having on a lead by reception so they settle. I’d ring and ask if anything happen or if she was anxious in the kennel.

 

[CorvusCorax]

She's 12, no history of lameness, never been crate trained and don't have a crate big enough for her but can close off rooms to keep her in a small space when she is up and about again. Vet approved the meds...

One of the benefits of crate training is that they are less likely to stress if they have to be caged at the vets.

 

[fankino04]

What leg is she lame on? If a fore leg and they have never been crate trained they can often panic and when they jump at the bars stick their legs through/against it. I have seen a few dogs rip their dew claws or damage paws this way. It’s hard to prevent, crate training/training to be alone helps a lot. Bad ones we often end up having on a lead by reception so they settle. I’d ring and ask if anything happen or if she was anxious in the kennel.

They reckon she was fine in the kennel, they claim nothing has happened to her there, she has been in for a few Cushing's tests this year and they have always said she has been no bother so I don't think she would have been especially stressed or anxious in the kennel this time, but obviously wasn't there so don't know. I'm just so annoyed at myself for not turning around and demanding to see the vet, but I honestly thought they would just prescribe metacam and rest so took her home to do that and called them so they can note it on her file so if it is more serious I can discuss payment / non payment as it happened in their care.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

The problem is that you took her away, so now they can say 'nothing happened'. If you had stayed and insisted that a) a vet looked at the leg and b) you got an explanation, you would have been in a much stronger position. I think now you need to contact the practice manager and ask for a breakdown of everything they did with her and an explanation of what happened to make her lame.

 

[fankino04]

The problem is that you took her away, so now they can say 'nothing happened'. If you had stayed and insisted that a) a vet looked at the leg and b) you got an explanation, you would have been in a much stronger position. I think now you need to contact the practice manager and ask for a breakdown of everything they did with her and an explanation of what happened to make her lame.

This is exactly what I'm thinking now, hindsight is a wonderful thing! She was clearly lame but still weight bearing so I assumed she had twisted it while they were trying to get her in the front door (she planted herself and didn't want to go with the vet, which she does everytime and then is fine when she's in and I'm out of sight) and that it wasn't going to be anything serious, now I'm terrified of fractures and torn ligaments. Going to speak to head vet in the morning as I think I want someone to come out and examine her, obvs would take her in but she's too big to get there when she's imobile.

 

[FinnishLapphund]

One of my late bitches were able to be in a crate at the veterinarians, or at dog shows, without a problem, until she got old, and a bit of senility made her not want to be alone. So even crate trained dogs are no guarantee for that they'll always be able to be crated at the veterinarians.

I'm sorry to hear that liver problems made it not possible to do the tooth removal surgery, and that she's also somehow have gotten lame, Fankino04.
Hope that it isn't something as serious as what Google have made you fear that it is.
{{{{{{Vibes}}}}}}

 

[FinnishLapphund]

Strangely enough my dog has been quite ill after a vet visit. She went last week to have her anal glands emptied. Vet took her in as not allowed with them at moment. When she came out the vet said shes been very naughty which isnt like her at all. Apart from her anal glands she had been fine.
Later that night she started vomiting and having diarrhoea.
Had to take her back to vets next day as was so poorly. temp and not eating. Was told that they had a lot of dogs with same symptoms. Did she pick it up from vets?

Hope your dog is better now, Sandstone1.

 

[eephrona]

So noodle went to have her tooth out this morning but her pre op bloods said her liver Alp was way too high so didn't risk an anaesthetic with her. I went to collect her later on this morning and she was lame, didn't have time to wait for a vet so said I would take her home, give her metacam and rest for a few days and see how we get on. She has laid down at home and now can't get up, metacam obviously hasn't touched the pain and when I called the vets to speak to them about it they said that nothing has happened while she was there. How could she be moving fine when I dropped her off and lame when I collect her if nothing happened?

Hope your dog will recover soon

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

This is exactly what I'm thinking now, hindsight is a wonderful thing! She was clearly lame but still weight bearing so I assumed she had twisted it while they were trying to get her in the front door (she planted herself and didn't want to go with the vet, which she does everytime and then is fine when she's in and I'm out of sight) and that it wasn't going to be anything serious, now I'm terrified of fractures and torn ligaments. Going to speak to head vet in the morning as I think I want someone to come out and examine her, obvs would take her in but she's too big to get there when she's imobile.

I hope you can get a sensible response from them today.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Sorry to hear about your dog sandstone, hope she's feeling better soon. I've done totally the wrong thing and been googling for nulas elbow and am now convinced she has had a bone tumour and in its weekened state the joint has now fractured ?

Crumbs, lay off google and get her seen ASAP. Request an x ray if she's still horribly lame.

 

[fankino04]

Pretty much the same response today. Head vet is worried that the Alp is an indication of bone disease meaning they are brittle enough to break from any small thing anytime so could have been her getting up or down in her kennel. Will rest with meds for another day or and then reasses. He doesn't seem to be arguing that she was sound when she went in and lame when she came out just that the cause might be something they are not liable for as it could have happened anytime anywhere. She managed to get up today, not sure if that's just the tramadol working or she's improving. Have put a play pen around her so she's in a small space with just her bed and water bowl and will leave her to rest. Equine vets have said if she needs x-rays they can come out to take them and send to her vets so we don't need to try to get her to the vets, hopefully won't come to that. I am terribly good at jumping 10 steps ahead and panicking!

 

[fankino04]

Crumbs, lay off google and get her seen ASAP. Request an x ray if she's still horribly lame.

She seems a bit better today, vets said rest and meds for at least another 24 hours then will reassess regards x-rays

 

[SusieT]

Sounds sensible - to be fair if there is no known incident they cant really take liability for it - it could be one of those things and unless I had a history of suspecting thye were rough with the dog etc then I cant see how any liability as such is theirs- not unless there is a big bruise or something. Hope she improves soon.

 

[fankino04]

Strangely enough my dog has been quite ill after a vet visit. She went last week to have her anal glands emptied. Vet took her in as not allowed with them at moment. When she came out the vet said shes been very naughty which isnt like her at all. Apart from her anal glands she had been fine.
Later that night she started vomiting and having diarrhoea.
Had to take her back to vets next day as was so poorly. temp and not eating. Was told that they had a lot of dogs with same symptoms. Did she pick it up from vets?

How is your dog doing sandstone?

 

[Sandstone1]

Shes much better thank you. I think she picked up a nasty bug possibly from the vets.

 

[FinnishLapphund]

How is your dog doing sandstone?

You're wondering about Sandstone1's dog, and I was wondering how your dog is doing?:

 

[Sandstone1]

You're wondering about Sandstone1's dog, and I was wondering how your dog is doing?:

Yes, hows your dog doing now?

 

[fankino04]

You're wondering about Sandstone1's dog, and I was wondering how your dog is doing?:

Hi, she's improving, she can get up on her own now (bit of a struggle if on the laminate flooring but am trying to keep her in a pen on her blanket), she's walking carefully on it but is weight bearing so that's good. Biggest problem is I'm away house sitting so have to leave it to the OH who last night said he'd taken her blanket away as it had got smelly and he's stopped her evening tramadol as he doesn't think she needs it. I am worried that the pain meds may mask the pain so she gets up and moves more than she should so it might not be a bad thing I just would have left her a few more days. I'm home for a few hours this lunch time so can reasses her then.
And to make things more difficult his sister is dropping her dog off this afternoon for him to look after while they are away for the weekend so now I've got to trust him to not just keep them apart but keep him out of sight so she doesn't get excited / wound up ?

 

[FinnishLapphund]

Nice to hear that there's improvement, but I can understand that you worry when your OH doesn't seem to take care of her the same way you would. I normally think that a different way doesn't have to be wrong, sometimes it can be just as good, even though it isn't how you would do it, but if a dog needs to be kept calm on cage/puppy pen rest, then I don't think there is many acceptable alternative ways to handle it.

I presume that you've already considered other options, for example taking her with you since she needs to be kept in only a small restricted area, leaving her with someone else, etc, and that they simply aren't an option for you. I hope your OH manage to handle the weekend's double dog sitting.

{{{{Vibes}}}} to your dog, and {{{{hugs}}}} to you.

 

[fankino04]

Can't really take her anywhere as travelling her will just agitate the joint. I will set her up in the sitting room in her pen at lunch time and shut all the other doors and close the curtains to the patio doors so she can't see the garden, then other dog can have the dining room and go in and out through kitchen door. It would be easier if he could spend most of the time in the garden out of the way but the heatwave has put paid to that...

 

[fankino04]

The other issue is she seems to prefer the hallway which is fairly narrow and small but can't pen her into it so don't know whether to just close the doors and leave her in there or persevere with pen in sitting room knowing she may be more unsettled and other dog is on the other side of the door so she will hear him more ?

 

[FinnishLapphund]

The other issue is she seems to prefer the hallway which is fairly narrow and small but can't pen her into it so don't know whether to just close the doors and leave her in there or persevere with pen in sitting room knowing she may be more unsettled and other dog is on the other side of the door so she will hear him more ?

Sometimes you really wish that you could tell them that what you're doing is only for their own best.

 

[CorvusCorax]

That's exactly what pain meds usually do so if she tweaks herself again and they wear off, then you've still got the same problem.

With the best will in the world, and I know it's not the first time I've said this, if you have a big (lame) dog and laminate flooring it's a recipe for distaster.
It's perfectly feasible to buy a load of cheap running mats for floors, my house has very little wood showing lol.
People are concerned about your dog and giving you solutions which aren't that difficult to implement?

You've also again just illustrated really well why I'll never share the care of a dog with someone else, even though it's tough alone sometimes. Your elderly dog is in pain and that's the priority.
Sorry if I sound grouchy but FFS if your dog is struggling to get up there is something seriously wrong and that should be the priority, not having a show home (dogs smell) or looking after other family dogs.
If it was an old person would he take their paracetamol and cushions away?
I don't know how you put up with that, to be honest.