splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
that sounds more positive for her, at least some in the weighing room are reaching out to her..
Dunne v Frost
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Pearlsasinger
Up in the clouds
Good for her! What a pity it has taken until 2021 for the change in attitude to happen.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
That is great to read.
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Arzada
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Great to read. Maybe recognition of how badly she was treated, how brave she has been and what a torrid time she has had. And more good news for her, winning November 2021 Ride of the Month https://www.attheraces.com/rideofthemonth
Goldenstar
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Good to read that .
This is what we should be knowing BF for that was a super ride .
She’s not the the victim of a bully she is a great jockey succeeding in a very tough job .
Andie02
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Isn't it just, great to read. Some jockeys seeing sense at last.
Bob notacob
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I had a wonderful evening last night a severely controlled party,sitting next to a lady flat jock from the 70,s No names no pack drill. She explained that in her day ,she had to change in the st johns ambulance area . Couldnt speak more wonderful about her valet (former jockey ,rode foinavon in the national(go figure) . I got the vibe that she considered him a real man . Did her proud as a valet. She also explained that round the back of the course (pre cameras) she would endure a whip attack from some die hard misogynist jockeys ,which she cheerfully responded with some slashing cuts of her own. Her comment as I understand was . Two jockeys have now had their careers stuffed ,the real culprits remain the old guard of the jockey club. As I say , stright from the horses ,jockeys mouth. .
MotherOfChickens
MotherDucker
I’m curious, what is a real man?
Clodagh
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Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
I'm not even sure you are allowed to ask that question.
Was a joke, but actually the gender of someone is now a private matter, if that is what is wanted, and never to be presumed. Hence suggesting cubicles.
rabatsa
Confuddled
Perhaps she meant Gentleman?
Parrotperson
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mysoginistic old school jockey according to that post. ?
Rowreach
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Ah, the days when ladies were only allowed to ride in the occasional ladies's race. I doubt any of them demanded too much time from the valets as there weren't too many races to be had. The first lady champion jockey only had a handful of rides (and even fewer wins) because of that.
Mrs. Jingle
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That's actually very funny rabasta... Just not actually sure it was meant to be!???
Goldenstar
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The culprit was the person, man ,real man or any other way the person chooses to identify who did the bullying .
Clodagh
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So what was said by Matt Chapman on ATR today? I see much outrage on FB so I expect he was being his usual endearing self but did anyone see it?
MotherOfChickens
MotherDucker
I was going to make a joke about Pinnocchio but expect its not funny.
Andie02
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I do not think that Bryony has had her career stuffed..........2 Grade 1's recently while she was under a lot of pressure with the situation.
Some jockeys have already been sociable towards her, give it time.
The real culprit is the ignorant vile bully.
Some jockeys have already been sociable towards her, give it time.
The real culprit is the ignorant vile bully.
Mrs. Jingle
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I hardly think Bryony's career is stuffed -far from it - she is an exceedingly talented young jockey in her own right and she kept her head down and kept riding winners while the 'in' crowd were busy ripping her reputation to shreds. Lets not forget either, this was also whilst those eminently qualified to make decisions at the hearing got on with their job of sorting the wheat from the chaff of fact, innuendo, rumour and down right vicious lies.
Also lets not forget either, we did get some extremely ferocious 'insider' information thrown into the pot on this forum, if not straight from the horses or jockey's mouth, the most vile and childish part of it did come from a self professed 'right in the middle of it, I know all the facts you don't know' expert!
j1ffy
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I'm not sure that the experience of one woman who rode in races 50 years ago is relevant to the current scenario! How awful that she had to endure physical abuse to be able to ride - she's clearly very resilient and tough to have continued anyway, but the ability to withstand a beating shouldn't be part of the qualification to be a jockey. Nor should enduring misogynistic 'banter', constant jibes or willy-waggling.
Dunne is in his mid-30s, not from the dark ages. He's a few years younger than me and I can guarantee that no-one (of any gender) I work with would consider his behaviour to be acceptable. I'm pleased this has been brought into the daylight and hope it can ensure future generations of jockeys succeed because of their talent on a horse, not their resilience when handling human relationships.
Parrotperson
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Basically he said he’d heard that bryony had sacked the valets previously and employed her own valet.
Then when her own valet didn’t turn up the other valets were asked to work fir her and refused.
But lots of jockeys change charts for various reasons so dye hardly sacked them. She just employed someone else. ?
Velcrobum
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bonny
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I don’t think anyone could read that and be in any doubt about the verdict.
Quigleyandme
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Chilling. As for that poor jockey left paralysed due to another jockey’s dangerous riding - very sad.
Mrs. Jingle
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I was reading this yesterday - it does enlighten some of the doubters who thought he was dealt with too harshly, not harshly enough reading that.
Petalpoos
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Very interesting reading. Let's hope that the right people take note of it and that attitudes change. It sounds like it was only luck that stopped a serious incident occurring due to the aggressive riding.
Rowreach
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So in summary, even allowing for the weighing room “culture” and non-intervention by his peers being taken in mitigation by the panel, his actions were so appalling he got an 18 (15) month ban.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
But RR you've forgotten that she deserved it because she does post race interviews like giddy schoolgirl talking about her pony. ???
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ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Coming back to this, it really sheds light on how frightening his threat to put her through a wing must have been. I am more and more incredulous that anyone, especially women, on this thread defended him.
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I don't understand why people criticise her for this....I've always been taught "if you don't think your {horse/dog/cat/chinchilla/insert as appropriate} is the best ever, you shouldn't have anything to do with them'.
Aren't we ALL giddy schoolgirls with ponies at heart? I know I am, when I have to resist the urge to shriek gleefully "PONYPONYPONY!" anytime I drive past a field of horses .... if that enthusiasm and love for the animals is criticised and put down endlessly then I think there is little hope for the industry considering it's based off them, really!