EHV-1. Should I be worried?

Remember EHV is like the cold virus it is out there all the time and it like the cold virus mutates. Unfortunately this particular version has become neurological BUT not every horse that gets it gets it so badly they have to be PTS. There are cases of EHV 1 abortion which under normal circumstances would not be on the radar as often EHV infection is not considered. Everybody is now on high alert hence probably more "cases".
 
Velcrobum said:
Remember EHV is like the cold virus it is out there all the time and it like the cold virus mutates. Unfortunately this particular version has become neurological BUT not every horse that gets it gets it so badly they have to be PTS. There are cases of EHV 1 abortion which under normal circumstances would not be on the radar as often EHV infection is not considered. Everybody is now on high alert hence probably more "cases".
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Yeah kind of the same as the whole flu saga - except it hit a big competition centre this time. It does no harm to keep a closer eye on your horses. Though I wonder how many more flu cases are going to flag up again now because of extra testing!
 
milliepops said:
Crikey. That seems quite a robust approach but no doubt people will start moaning.
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Money grabbing of course. ;) Yes I am sure they will moan, but better to be safe than sorry. I think it's good that they have acted relatively quickly. The flu situation dragged on for ages before anyone outside of racing took any responsibility.
 
Foal, Lot 1142 from the January Clitheroe auction has been diagnosed with strangles, so anyone who attended be aware.
 
nikicb said:
Money grabbing of course. ;) Yes I am sure they will moan, but better to be safe than sorry. I think it's good that they have acted relatively quickly. The flu situation dragged on for ages before anyone outside of racing took any responsibility.
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Yup totally agree
and if it stays pretty contained then testing like that would give those in other areas a bit of confidence to be able to keep going out and about.
 
sarahann1 said:
Given this has already killed 4 horses on a single yard, hopefully folk won’t moan too loudly. Feel so very sorry for the owners concerned.
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Well you'd hope not but given how loud the moaning about flu was, I'm sure there will be some. Anything that helps to keep it contained is a good thing imo. Presumably after a period of time the incubation period will have passed and testing may not be required then anyway? Anyway I think its good to see the governing bodies taking proactive steps.
 
dorsetladette said:
BBC 1 news now

Sorry was trying to post quickly.

It might be worth a what on iplayer if possible.
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Was surprised at the mixed message, vet saying don't hack ou at all for a fortnightt, New Forest verderers saying it's still ok to ride in the Forest, provided your horses haven't been to Crofton/in contact with horses from there...
 
rextherobber said:
Was surprised at the mixed message, vet saying don't hack ou at all for a fortnightt, New Forest verderers saying it's still ok to ride in the Forest, provided your horses haven't been to Crofton/in contact with horses from there...
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Think everyone just needs to agree that hacking should be stopped for the incubation period or until it is all clear for the safety of all beloved equines.
 
It seems to me it's just the one vet who seems to be advising no hacking, with most of the other larger practises saying it's okay as long as your horses haven't been to Crofton (or horses on your yard).

ETA. I won't be going hacking as I'm close to Crofton, but if someone has been advised by their vet that they still can then I can see why people would. And those people now seem to be getting slated on social media!
 
Its the 3 degrees of separation thing that worries me most.

Say you are on a yard that has grazing next to a yard that has liveries that have been to Crofton and could potentially be carrying the infection. Your horse is turned out and unbeknown to you your horse has a groom over the fence with said horse who won a beautiful rosette at show jumping last week.

Both owners are doing the correct thing. Lady who went show jumping is keeping an eye on pony and not hacking out. checking temperatures either end of the day. Your doing the correct thing as no one on your yard competes so your all hacking out like normal. But your hacking past a few fields with ponies in that are owned by people you are not familiar with. Technically you are risking spreading infection or picking up infection.

Can you tell I'm an over thinker??

Anyway IMHO I feel that for the sake of hacking for a couple of weeks in quite horrid weather we shouldn't even question just staying at home.
 
dorsetladette said:
Its the 3 degrees of separation thing that worries me most.

Say you are on a yard that has grazing next to a yard that has liveries that have been to Crofton and could potentially be carrying the infection. Your horse is turned out and unbeknown to you your horse has a groom over the fence with said horse who won a beautiful rosette at show jumping last week.

Both owners are doing the correct thing. Lady who went show jumping is keeping an eye on pony and not hacking out. checking temperatures either end of the day. Your doing the correct thing as no one on your yard competes so your all hacking out like normal. But your hacking past a few fields with ponies in that are owned by people you are not familiar with. Technically you are risking spreading infection or picking up infection.

Can you tell I'm an over thinker??

Anyway IMHO I feel that for the sake of hacking for a couple of weeks in quite horrid weather we shouldn't even question just staying at home.
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Completely agree with this! I feel the same way and surely if everyone (including all yards, hunts, and show centres) shut down for a few weeks it would make it near impossible for it to spread?

What I don't like is seeing people turning against each other on social media and shaming them. Most people seem to have been really supportive of Crofton and the owners who have lost horses. Others are getting spurred on by professionals (who I believe should stay professional to prevent a widespread panic) shaming people for going hacking, not closing a yard sooner etc.

I know people are scared for their horses, but I've even seen a comment saying that 'heads will roll' at Crofton if the virus spreads. I just couldn't even think about placing blame right now when this is still so ongoing. Maybe it's just how people deal with things differently, but I do find it very sad when people turn against each other - especially when advice is differing so no one really knows what they should be doing.
 
Misleading information is a worry too. A girl put a comment on the local FB group yesterday, but had clearly misinterpreted the messages sent out by crofton. Luckily the admin dealt with it quickly and it was deleted, but if someone had taken that as gospel we could of been in trouble.

I don't see how heads can roll at Crofton - they have done everything they can once they had the information.
 
I do think it’s something that group admins need to gen up on a bit in preparation for doing at least some post moderation.
 
dorsetladette said:
Its the 3 degrees of separation thing that worries me most.

Say you are on a yard that has grazing next to a yard that has liveries that have been to Crofton and could potentially be carrying the infection. Your horse is turned out and unbeknown to you your horse has a groom over the fence with said horse who won a beautiful rosette at show jumping last week.

Both owners are doing the correct thing. Lady who went show jumping is keeping an eye on pony and not hacking out. checking temperatures either end of the day. Your doing the correct thing as no one on your yard competes so your all hacking out like normal. But your hacking past a few fields with ponies in that are owned by people you are not familiar with. Technically you are risking spreading infection or picking up infection.

Can you tell I'm an over thinker??

Anyway IMHO I feel that for the sake of hacking for a couple of weeks in quite horrid weather we shouldn't even question just staying at home.
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If a horse was schooling or competing at Crofton in the infection window timescale, they should have been contacted, and asked to isolate and test. My understanding was that Crofton had the list, and efforts to contact the people have been made. Plus there are a number for vet guidance posts, saying if were competing at Crofton between X and Y date should isolate and contact your vet. So most of the population will be aware. And this population should not be turning out in the vicinity of other horses or leaving yard or hacking. Until the 14 day blood tests confirm no infection.
 
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