Ellen Whittaker Banned From Driving!!! OOOOps

Im gonna leave this now as its pointless. Everyone has different opinions and we aren't going to agree. Not everyone thinks the same and congratulations for being so sensible. I didn't come on here to defend her or say what she did was right. But whatever you say isn't going to change it now and there will still be 1000s doing it
 
abbie94 said:
Im gonna leave this now as its pointless. Everyone has different opinions and we aren't going to agree. Not everyone thinks the same and congratulations for being so sensible. I didn't come on here to defend her or say what she did was right. But whatever you say isn't going to change it now and there will still be 1000s doing it
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Well lets hope you're so understanding when the police knock on your door in the middle of the night to say your daughter, husband, sister whoever have been killed or maimed in a crash with a drunk driver.

I admire your loyalty to AS but in this case I think its misguided. He just got lucky in not killing or seriously injuring someone.

Anyone who gets behind the wheel drunk should be banned for life. How dare they play roulette with other peoples lives, never mind the people in the emergency services who have to clear up the carnage and deliver the worst piece of news anyone could ever receive.

As for 1,000's still doing it I don't agree with that, everyone I know (and just look at this thread) accepst that drink driving is a complete no no.
The more unacceptable its made and the more stigma someone gets the better in getting the message across.
 
abbie94 said:
But whatever you say isn't going to change it now and there will still be 1000s doing it
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No, we won't change it, but the police and the courts will and the reporters will keep reporting on it and people will keep being disgusted :)

Abbie94? Am I wrong to surmise that you are 17 or 18?
Driving yet? If you've ever seen the results of a car crash (there are pictures on this thread and another thread in latest news from Co Monaghan in Ireland), sat through a court case, an inquest, involving death by dangerous or drink driving, been at a wake house where the coffin is closed because the deceased has basically been smashed into pieces, listened to the parents howling or seen the pain on the faces of the first responders who had to cut out the victims, you might have a different opinion.
 
abbie94 said:
Im gonna leave this now as its pointless. Everyone has different opinions and we aren't going to agree. Not everyone thinks the same and congratulations for being so sensible. I didn't come on here to defend her or say what she did was right. But whatever you say isn't going to change it now and there will still be 1000s doing it
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I think everyone has the same opinion about this. No one is saying that because someone is moronic and disrespectful to other people and their lives on the road that these people are innately evil and nor are we attempting to cause you offence through your partners father. We are all stating fact. I would hold this opinion even if it was my own mother/brother/lover/self and you should attempt to have an opinion unswayed by your relationship connections.
 
it doesnt matter how much money people do or do not have,drink driving is just plain wrong. The drunk driver is unsafe and kill others.
 
abbie94 said:
Alastair is my boyfriends dad, He is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet and Ellen incident has nothing to do with him so its unnecessary for him to be brought up. While your posting all your comments bitching about people just remember, they are the sister/ dad/ mum/ brother/ friend etc of someone and they are more than likely to see it. You may be hiding behind a user name but slating people isn't fair, keep it to yourselves. Just because these people are well known and their private life gets published in newspapers doesn't mean they aren't human, they're exactly the same as everyone else and if you knew them well enough your views might be different. Also, those of you saying showjumping is getting bad publicity at the moment, that may be, but everyone makes mistakes, and your not giving it a great name, your giving it a label of bitchiness even more so that it already does. My point being if it was you, you wouldn't want everyone slating you for it. She made a mistake, as did the rest, and i bet she is kicking herself for it, but you dont need to rub salt in the wound. I dont condone drink driving at all but i think its about 1 in 5 people do it or have done it so its not like its never been done before.
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Well said !!!
 
I can't get over all this 'naaaw, leave them alone, they are people with families' rubbish.
Tough luck, they thought have thought about that before they got behind the wheel. Selfish action. If you have a family and you think something of them, don't drink and drive and get your name in the paper for all to see and risk your current and future employment.

My uncle was a serial drunk driver.
His name and address were in the paper several times, he led a couple of police chases. My friends used to find him lying drunk in the gutter and tell me about it in school.
One time, I even turned up to court and he was wobbling around in the dock for drunk and disorderly, and I listened to how the magistrate tore strips off him and called him a 'disgrace'.
The magistrate was right.

He destroyed two marriages, he has four children who, after his death (yep, found in a flat surrounded by bottles), still can't stand him for what he did. Being in the papers was nothing compared to what he put them through. He put his own mother in an early grave.

Please do not think he had no support and was shunned, far from it, he did nearly all the work on our house and our previous house, at our request, to try and keep him out of trouble, my mother (his sister in law, not even a relative) got him out of the cells on many occasions, he was signed over to drying out clinics, but his addiction was too strong.

Who's fault was it he was in the paper? Who's fault was it that his family suffered.
HIS.

Ellen Whittaker was over the limit driving a vehicle akin to a tank on the public road, she was apprehended and punished, that is what the law is there for and people are going to comment on it because it is in the public domain the same as anyone else and if it is in the public domain, people are going to comment on it, live with that.
 
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CaveCanem said:
I can't get over all this 'naaaw, leave them alone, they are people with families' rubbish.
Tough luck, they thought have thought about that before they got behind the wheel. Selfish action. If you have a family and you think something of them, don't drink and drive and get your name in the paper for all to see and risk your current and future employment.

My uncle was a serial drunk driver.
His name and address were in the paper several times, he led a couple of police chases. My friends used to find him lying drunk in the gutter and tell me about it in school.
One time, I even turned up to court and he was wobbling around in the dock for drunk and disorderly, and I listened to how the magistrate tore strips off him and called him a 'disgrace'.
The magistrate was right.

He destroyed two marriages, he has four children who, after his death (yep, found in a flat surrounded by bottles), still can't stand him for what he did. Being in the papers was nothing compared to what he put them through. He put his own mother in an early grave.

Please do not think he had no support and was shunned, far from it, he did nearly all the work on our house and our previous house, at our request, to try and keep him out of trouble, my mother (his sister in law, not even a relative) got him out of the cells on many occasions, he was signed over to drying out clinics, but his addiction was too strong.

Who's fault was it he was in the paper? Who's fault was it that his family suffered.
HIS.

Ellen Whittaker was over the limit driving a vehicle akin to a tank on the public road, she was apprehended and punished, that is what the law is there for and people are going to comment on it because it is in the public domain the same as anyone else and if it is in the public domain, people are going to comment on it, live with that.
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Well said!
 
I have to admit I am also struggling with the "she made a mistake I am sure she is kicking herself for it" brigade. Drink driving is not something which suddenly befalls someone as they are driving along the road. It is something which happens long before they get in a car. What you eat or do not eat has nothing whatsoever to do with being 2 times the drink drive limit, she simply isn't that slight a build for it to. She drank far more than she should have and got into a Range Rover and drove, it really is as simple as that. So those who are saying awww, was just a mistake, as others have said, thing of that knock on the door you get one night to be told your child has been killed by a drunk driver.

So far, I have lost one school friend at the age of 12, driven against a wall on his way home from school by a drunk driver who thought it ok to get plastered at lunchtime; a friend who lost a leg through being knocked off his motorbike by a drunk driver in a white van, in day time again, on his side of the road; a friend who had almost every bone in his body broken and his face smashed to pieces, again by a van driver who was drunk in day time, there are more and that is just me. Thousands are maimed or killed each year by drunk drivers. It is well advertised so people are well aware it is a issue, it isn't just a one off, so I have no sympathy for anyone who gets caught drunk behind a wheel. No one is immune to being killed by a drink driver, so think about that next time your loved ones are out and pray that knock never comes
 
there is NO excuse for drink driving.

for the other brigade - if your loved one was killed by a DD would you still make excuse -------------- No Thought Not.
 
Any one who thinks its ok or just "just a mistake" are invited to do my job for a day- patching up victims of drunk drivers or even better, having to tell families there loved relative has been killed by a drink driver!
Then i bet you reconsider
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I don't hate EW, I just don't think drink driving should be made light of and I hate it when people gob off about the media and the courts whilst not having a baldy clue how either work, I know nothing about plumbing so I am not going to spout off about ballcocks and s-bends or tell anybody how to install a sink, or that they are doing it wrong, etc :p
 
She should have been sent to prison. Getting behind the wheel of a car while under the influence of drink or drugs is akin to handing someone a loaded gun and letting them have target practice. Giving these "celebrities" a fine means nothing it is just pocket money to them and a ban has no real effect as she has staff to drive her about. Should have got one of them to collect her that night! Look at the footballer who was driving a range rover and killed those two children and was out of prison leading a normal life after no time at all. The justice system is a complete insult to innocent victims
 
Sorry just noticed on page 4 that "ladyt25" has asignature which reads "Wine is made to be drunk. I am drunk, therefore am I wine?". Very apt to this discussion!! :-)
 
Shes an idiot! that is all.

No actually I dont think shes an amazing rider either and shes clearly had veneers put in recently. I hope they hurt her.
 
Im sure this will do her boyfriends career lots of good with all this attention

Mrs Mayher is a proper lady as quoted by previous poster...have you seen her modelling shots, ladys dont pose in pictures like that

Every dog will have its day, and i think Ellens may be now

She is disliked for a reason, not because everybodys jellous of her ,its because she is a bitch & a chav drink driver
 
Starbucks said:
child abuse, rape and murder. Totally the same thing as someone having a couple of glasses of wine and driving home!
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They are all against the law. If you are doing something you shouldn't be, you should expect to be ridiculed by civilised society. It's as simple as that for me :)
 
The Whitaker family are all idiots though, I don't think anyone can deny it. I was with Louise a few years ago when Robert drove their HGV lorry back, with 6 horses on, after winning the cock o the north class, and sinking 8 pints.
Apparently it is a vicious circle, they never seem to learn.
 
RunToEarth said:
The Whitaker family are all idiots though, I don't think anyone can deny it. I was with Louise a few years ago when Robert drove their HGV lorry back, with 6 horses on, after winning the cock o the north class, and sinking 8 pints.
Apparently it is a vicious circle, they never seem to learn.
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LOL maybe thats why none of them seem to be able to string a coherent sentence together when interviewed on telly then.They're all rat arsed .

Masters of the monotone monosyllable, all of them :D

Still can't take away their ability to jump a fence though.
 
Lol - I think the whitaker family might try to deny it :D

I think if you shoved a mic in my face after an sj round, asking inane questions I might have trouble putting a sentence together, and I don't jump anything half as difficult as they do (literally, probably half the size :D ) Plus, they're from yorkshire, people not known for saying much....
 
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