Enough to put you off breaking horses in for life! *Video*

Cortez said:
He was sending the horse forwards, which is the first lesson of all riding/training.
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Sorry.. I was paying more attention to the one on board, it just didn't look like his whip was helping in that particular circumstance. Didn't mean to sound like a muppet, if a horse was broncing like that in front of me, I don't think I'd be tickling it's legs with a whip, I understand what you're saying, just in that case, it might aggravate the situation, I don't know, don't jump on me, I'm new haha :confused:
 
Goodness i'm in awe of the jockey. And the guy on the ground too, seemed from that small snap shot very kind and patient trainers. The type of people who should be sorting out problem horses.
Impressed.
 
angellauren said:
Sorry.. I was paying more attention to the one on board, it just didn't look like his whip was helping in that particular circumstance. Didn't mean to sound like a muppet, if a horse was broncing like that in front of me, I don't think I'd be tickling it's legs with a whip, I understand what you're saying, just in that case, it might aggravate the situation, I don't know, don't jump on me, I'm new haha :confused:
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I don't think Cortez was jumping on you. :) For all we know this could be a problem horse, on the 2nd day you can see the horse 'planting', by making the horse go forwards he is actually lessening the bucking and rearing. It is a lot easier to sit on a galloping/ cantering horse than one that's launching into the air!
 
dominobrown said:
I don't think Cortez was jumping on you. :) For all we know this could be a problem horse, on the 2nd day you can see the horse 'planting', by making the horse go forwards he is actually lessening the bucking and rearing. It is a lot easier to sit on a galloping/ cantering horse than one that's launching into the air!
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No, your right, that's very true x
 
:eek::eek::eek::eek: wowzers... feistly horse... sticky jockey! Wouldn't want to have been on the back of that at all, but especially with those jumps up... Amazing seat on that jockey
 
Very, very good jockey! Looks like a youngster someone's 'half-done ' and its gone wrong somewhere along the line.Thankfullly not had any quite as bad as that so far *touches wood* But fair play to the lad at least its learnt the most valuable lesson that the rider won't just drop off. We always have people on the ground with whips just as backup to keep them moving forward as dominobrown has said its easier sitting one that's going fast than throwing itself in the air!
 
Saw this on Facebook - for those that have read my posts, the horse has exactly the same reaction, even looks the same!

I don't necessarily think more groundwork would make a difference, a solid 2 months of it with my mare hasn't.

Very very good jockey that id like to borrow!
 
Would imagine they've just bought it looking at the sticker on it's bum.
Won't comment on breaking methods as no info on horse as to background etc, but yes very sticky jockey :)
 
Not dissimilar to what my welsh did to me earlier this summer... and he's 13!!

It felt that big from on top - to an onlooker it probably wasn't very exciting (or I would have been off!) :-)

If nothing else the horse has learnt that such behaviour doesn't result in the rider coming off or stopping work...
 
Cortez said:
Crikey! That was an extreme "objection"! Not an uncommon training approach on the continent 'tho, where going forwards is the most important lesson and it's less common to do a whole lot on the ground before climbing aboard. I emphasise NOT the bucking part, but the getting on early on part - in my extreme youth (i.e. a very long time ago) I worked at a yard in Hesse where we were all thrown up on breakers with NO REINS and instructions not to fall off AS IT FRIGHTENED THE HORSES whilst the horses were driven forwards by "helpers" on the ground with lunge whips. Surprisingly few ever bucked :-)
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Been there! This is exactly what we used to do when I was out in Germany. They don't believe in fannying around, you get on, and the horse goes forward from day 1. Trainer on the ground makes damn sure they never learn to say "Nope-not going", and the jockeys job is to sit tight, and not fall off. The hands up behind the ears is the easiest way to make sure you're not pulling back whilst busy concentrating on staying on!
Rider is fab - he must have abs of steel!! I never sat on one that reacted that violently, but had a couple who seriously tested my stickability! Looks like he had a balance strap on - this is one of my favourite pieces of kit for the purposes of not falling off a broncer!
 
jesstickle said:
Blimey. I've never, ever had one do that quite so spectacularly. Good job too because no way would I sit it!
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Sometimes even with the groundwork it happens (not saying that it's the case here as I don't know the background, just pointing it out), this is exactly why I am waiting for surgery as the last breaker I rode bronced like that - wish I had the jockeys superglue!
 
Diesal said:
Very few horses would react that violently when sat on for the first time, imo.
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A LOT of horses WILL react that violently when sat on for the first time, if they haven't been properly prepared! Good thing the jockey WAS so sticky because if he'd fallen, the horse would have had a jolly good try at kicking his head in!

If a horse is frightened by the 'predator on his back' (and at least 80% of them will be if not prepared) then sending him forward with a whip can help stop the bucking - the horse bolts instead, (flight or fight!) If it doesn't fall over in the process, it will eventually realise that 'the predator' isn't trying to kill him!

Even if I had a jockey as sticky as that chap, I wouldn't allow that approach to be taken with any horse on my yard! The risks - to the rider AND the horse - are just too high. The horse is likely to strain its back muscles - at least - as its musculature ISN'T ready for a weight on its back while it turns itself inside out! A horse that isn't worth a lot more care and consideration than that isn't worth tuppence!
 
Broke_But_Happy said:
Sometimes even with the groundwork it happens (not saying that it's the case here as I don't know the background, just pointing it out), this is exactly why I am waiting for surgery as the last breaker I rode bronced like that - wish I had the jockeys superglue!
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I know that. I did reference that I used to do yearlings ;)

I had one take off round our exercise track like that. Great fun. I had to try and stop and stay on at the same time. Gotta love it dontcha? Actually I didn't and I don't make a living out of it anymore! But as I said, my breakers were little TBs, that is a big chuffing warm blood with a BIG buck in it. I wouldn't have sat that :p

If they're going to get on it again they should nick someone's decent sized lunge pit. It's waaay easier in the round where they can't get into a corner and stop. As previously said, once going forward they're not so bad and it's so much easier to get them going forward with no corners!!

When I backed Nitty (my own so she was well prepped and super chilled) I did always have someone with a lunge whip on the floor just incase she decided to put on her parts. She never did but it's a fairly sensible precaution for anyone surely? That or start on the lunge with someone with a whip to send them forward? Either or :confused:
 
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Sorry JT I should have been a bit clearer in my post, the second half is in reference to your post, the first is just a general comment :)

In my case the little bugger learned to breathe in so the girth ended up loose - mid bronc the saddle slipped forward and the back came up which effectively turned it into a catapult :eek:
 
No worries BBH. My fault. I'm too fat to do breakers now anyway thank god! Otherwise I'd probably want to give up work and do that. Until I got smashed up again!
 
jesstickle said:
No worries BBH. My fault. I'm too fat to do breakers now anyway thank god! Otherwise I'd probably want to give up work and do that. Until I got smashed up again!
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Oh my days of doing breakers are firmly over - the idea of staying in one piece becomes quite appealing after a while!!
 
The people breaking this horse in wouldn't be allowed near any of mine with a 10ft barge pole. Thankfully the guy can stay on, but really not the way to do it. Hope the horse didn't injure itself in the process of being broken.
 
Very, very impressive rider.

Not the way most horses are backed over here (probably because we don't have enough riders brave enough to ride truly forward on youngsters without a handbrake on!) but seems to work with 1000's of horses on the continent and I bet the horse is unrecognisable after another 3 or 4 rides of being taught forward is the only way.
 
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