Enys and the Horse Communicator - detailed report!

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I like to be open minded about things and my problems with Enys have led me to try out some unusual options. This has to be the most unusual by far.

Yesterday I had a horse communicator come out to see Enys. She was recommended by my RI (who has her do her horse) and is quite well reknowned for her abilities (she goes abroad and does lots of famous people's horses).

If you have a look at my past posts you will see that when I bought Enys there were no signs of behaviour problemsbut on our way home after picking him up he jumped over the partition in the horsebox and had to be cut and dragged out - since then he bites and kicks(see here for full story)

Anyway - I was a little nervous as I didn't know what to expect.

I can't give you a definitive answer as to whether she is the real thing but alot of things she said were very accurate. This is a quite detailed report:

It was different from what I expected though, as I imagined it would be all about things Enys likes doing and what he doesn't like doing...However it was all about Enys' physical health. (my RI says that she didn't tell the lady anything about Enys)

I didn't give her any info on Enys, not his name (piror to session) or age or anything about his accident. To start with she did call Enys a 'she' but Enys is a girls name and you can't always differentiate a human from their voice. She was talking to his bottom over his stable door (he decided to be anti-social) but the first thing she said was that his rib cage hurt. From where she was standing she wouldn't have been able to see his war wounds caused by his accident.

After a bit she decided to go in with him - I had kept silent about his behavioural problems as I wanted to see if she picked up on it. I went in with her to fend off his nashers, as she didn't know and would be unprepared. Of course Enys was nasty (as he is in his box) and after a bit of dodging it was decided she best see him outside his box.

This showed me one thing...Enys is definetly more comfortable with me now, as I can go in his box without a huge amount of problems (though I have to be wary). He does dislike strangers.

So she began trying to interpret and translate Enys' problems (typical man only grumbled about his problems!). She used alot of noises to try and explain what Enys felt. I have to say she was pretty spot on with what she described in what was wrong with his movement (she hadn't seen him walk). I gave her no clues that she was on the right track.

She said that his problems started with 'seven' and she said that due to the way horses talk she couldn't tell whether it was when he was seven or if it was seven months. Enys is only just six, so it wasn't his age, but it does happen to be exactly seven months since his accident. Whether this is coincidence I don't know.

She said this seven was important to him as he saw everything that happened before this 'seven' as behind him (I hadn't confirmed at this point that seven was a special significance to us). He said since then he has not been comfortable and so is unable to move his back leg as he wants. He said it was better when the lady came to see him twice with 'three' between. - He saw the physio about six times after his accident but in April I called out the chiro, who did a huge straightening job on his spine and then she came out again 'three' weeks later...Again coincidence? I don't know. So this helped but Enys didn't think it had helped enough and wanted her to come again (she's booked for two weeks time).

He said he didn't like any of his saddles (he has been through two since I got him seven months ago - all professionally fitted and adjusted several times, though he quickly outgrew them) and this hasn't helped him. The one at the moment doesn't fit perfectly but my saddler has none left! Due to this he doesn't feel like concentrating on me all the time and makes him feel unbalanced and rush forwards or 'jar' in trot.

This is true as he does sometimes feel a bit stilted and doesn't use his behind properly - although he does move well. The lady said he takes the contact but doesn't like bringing his back legs under, particularly his off-hind (correct).

Then she said to me "But he does like it when you have the two reins on him when you're not riding...It's not side reins but something like long reins?" I started long reining Enys last week after the horse behaviourist said that this would be good for our bonding. He does enjoy it and is good at it (depsite having a clumsy handler).

Back to his health (he didn't diverge from this for long!). He said his chest felt heavy and this meant that he felt tight...but this was a result of his rib cage/stomach problems. I was actually told the exact same thing by a reiki lady a month ago (I told you i've tried everything!) but he does stand a little top-heavy when you look at him.

The lady, who also is a qualified herbalist, said that his stomach is very acidy and although he doesn't have gastric ulcers it is very close to them...and that makes him very grumpy. My mum and I very nearly got him scoped last month for ulcers but the vets said that he would be grumpy to ride if that was the case. So this just confirms what we half suspected. He also said once he felt very 'colicy', this was around the same time as the 'seven' - when he first came to us he wouldn't eat anything but grass...so perhaps that is what he was talking about?

Enys said that since the 'seven' he has felt panicy and goes to bite because he is uncomfortable. This tallies up with how we would describe his behaviour, as he is a sweet horse, he just goes for you randomly (you can see my past posts that verify this). He also said he didn't like it that I was giving up on him....Ok so that made me feel really guilty because it is true. We had a really bad two days at the weekend and I have told him quite a few times that he has the winter to proove himself.

You may think I am mean but at the end of the day we want all our horses to be our friends - we aren't really very competitive (though i'd like to be) and I want to be able to enjoy spending time with my horse and when that said horse is trying to bite and kick you it isn't exactly enjoyable. I can't even brush him without being wary.

Then he said that before the 'seven', he had been at the same place twice after someone had given up on him! Well I bought Enys from an ISH dealer and I have suspected that he may have been at the yard longer than I thought and that he may have been sent back by someone else. I can tell by his hooves that he has been moved quite a bit (he has quite a few ridges). Poor boy!

I was starting to get a little dissapointed because there hadn't really been any mention of his accident. Now the next bit I am a little bit skeptical about because my RI phoned her. I had told my RI that she was coming out and my RI phoned, during the session, to ask her if, as she was in the area, could she drop some herbs off. So they started chatting on the phone about Enys' problems with his movement. I didn't mind as I think my RI will be able to understand better what the lady was talking about and will be able to help me to work on it in our lessons.

Then whilst I was listening to her speaking to my RI, I hear her mention Enys accident and how he showed her it was like a "shunt, he was pushed forward" (shunt indeed, the silly boy reared up over the parititon! :rolleyes:). Now I didn't mention the accident but I asked my RI and she said she did mention his accident on the phone but not what type of accident. So I am afraid this part is a little iffy. However the lady said to me afterwards that Enys doesn't really regard the accident as important, only that after it was when his stomach began hurting. This could be true, as Enys hasn't ever really shown any problems in the box and loaded first time after his accident. it is only me who seems to be a nervous nelly around the box now!

I still hadn't told her that the accident was in the horsebox - so I said to her "Do you want to know about his accident" to which she said yes. Then before I opened my mouth, she said "Was it to do with the horsebox?" - so either she guessed correctly or Enys did actually tell her. Who knows!

So after all of this we chatted for a bit and I asked her whether she could see if he saw anything positive about his life...as it all just seemed to be all negative and nothing really about how he saw me.

So she asked him and she said "Have you changed girths recently" - yep I have. "He likes his new girth, it's better than the old one."....I am beginning to think my horse is very self centred :D. Then he told her that at one point in his life he didn't have any water or the water was bad but now he likes the water.

So we have various lotions and potions to do with his stomach - then she said it was important that I got the saddle sorted soon, as Enys was getting a bit annoyed with it.

So do I believe it all?

Yes I suppose I do to a point, as alot of it was very accurate...although there were a few things I didn't quite understand.

Would I have her out again? Yes I think I would - she said enough for me to be impressed, even if it was things I have guessed at myself.

Phew....Long post but alot of people have read about my problems with Enys and so it is interesting to hear the whole report of the session rather than a condensed one. You can read all about my trials and tribulations with Enys on my blog...which I have religiously updated. :)


(nb. Please no nastiness about horse communicators - I was in two minds whether to post this report, but thought that it might interesting for some people :))
 
It surprised a lot of people in my circle when I got Isobel Hogton to visit my guys - but she was uncanilly accurate about things that could not possibly be guessed or led along.

So much so that she told me about my big lad and the old horse he had as a companion in the first yard we were in and that his mum had died of cancer. Exactly right.

But we got her to our pony when he was in the depths of a serious laminitic event. He had not stood for longer than a minute for two weeks, and the evening after she had been and done some releasing work with him he was walking around his box demanding food!

I don't try to understand these things now - I just look at the results, and sometimes they are surprising. All the horses were different after her visit in one way or another - positive different.
 
I had one for my horse, Jackie Weaver and she was great.
My horse would jump ditches but was a bit worried about them and could stop and panic. Basically he told Jackie he didn't understand them, he said they weren't like shadows (bless!), she told him that he should jump the space.
He NEVER looks at a ditch ever now :).

He could also spin on the road if he got spooked. Jackie said he was just reacting. She told him that he could slip ect ect and that if he is worried he should just stop and look. He always stops now! If he sees something he doesn't like his first thought is to stop not spin.

She said some things that didn't make sense but overall It was a positive experience for us. It actually really spooked me for quite a while afterwards!
 
I had an email reading for my tb that was scarily accurate! I am going to get another done for him as he now has various problems ;-) and im going to get one done for my mare aswell. I find them very interesting!
 
I read your post out of curiosity as I've never known how a communicator actually communicates- how does she explain how your horse 'tells' her stuff? Does she interpret body language, is it some sort of psychic thing or actual sounds??
The only thing that makes me cynical is the 7 and 3 thing, that you've interpreted as relating to months and weeks, but surely a horse has no concept of our calendars to be able to measure time like we do. Obviously mother nature makes tham aware of the seasons etc (must be dead confusing with our summers!!) but they don't know how we divide the weeks/months up.
I definately think their are all sorts of people out there to take advantage of us when we're vulnerable, but there are also those that genuinely want to help and if their methods, no matter how unconventional help, then it can't do any harm. I wish you luck with finding the key to your horse.
 
I still remain 'on the fence' about it all too - although there was alot of accuracy there were things that could be guessed. I was very careful not to give anything away, as I didn't want to lead the session just watch it. it was very interesting though.

molly7886 said:
I read your post out of curiosity as I've never known how a communicator actually communicates- how does she explain how your horse 'tells' her stuff? Does she interpret body language, is it some sort of psychic thing or actual sounds??.
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She did alot of weird noises and actions to try and translate what Enys was saying about his problems. Like Enys' movement was a sound - it's even difficult for me to explain. It made sort of sense. I would say it was a bit of all three of the things you said.


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The only thing that makes me cynical is the 7 and 3 thing, that you've interpreted as relating to months and weeks, but surely a horse has no concept of our calendars to be able to measure time like we do.
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Yes I have to say I thought this too but I'm afraid I don't have an answer. The problem is, is that even if these people do genuinely have a gift they probably have to embellish it in order to satisfy people. :)
 
miskettie said:
Yes I have to say I thought this too but I'm afraid I don't have an answer. The problem is, is that even if these people do genuinely have a gift they probably have to embellish it in order to satisfy people. :)
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Ah but you see, that may be just how the communciator interprets what the horse is 'saying'. The horse may not actually be giving timescales etc but what the communicator interprets is that.

See, my thing is - just because we don't THINK it's possible for humans to communicate with animals doe not mean it's NOT possible! I have no personal experience of these communicators at all but I am open minded and never understand when people say it's not possible? Why not? What do people base that on? I love the idea of it as much as I love the thought (or it amazes me really) to think we will NEVER as the human race discover the limits/extent of the universe. Some things cannot actually be explained but us, as humans, hate that! Lol
 
We had a communication by e-mail that was astonishing. The even more amazing thing is that even though I have met the communicator since, the horse never has but the poor woman now gets random 'visits' from my mare, sometimes just to chat, other times to give her information. The communicator also got in touch when our other mare died, to ask if lilac/purple had been imortant to her, it had, all her stuff was purple or mauve and we have purple/lilac hanging baskets,which she used to try and eat. The other very odd thing that week was that sister, visiting friend and I had the strongest smell of lavender in the field. I can't explain any of it, but it has worked for us.
 
I look at it this way ..... I think that very often communication with animals is more via pictures and physical feelings ....and its like talking with a very young child where you have to exapand a little bit on a word or two or a gesture / body language that might be "incaurate" or where the concepts are not the same as an adults. In order to make sense as to what it is that the small child wants to communicate sometimes it takes additional information from others so that we can get the "correct" meaning.


I think that many of us humans talk ourselves out of the possibility that things like a/c or spirts or alternative life forms exist... we are much more open as children and then parents tell us its nonsense so in order to "get long" we conform. HOwever how many of us will sometimes do something because of "intuition"... or we" just know" something is wrong .... I think far more of us tune in in "ignorance" than would care to admit it ;)

I am as sceptical as the next person with many things like angels / ghosts etc (I have a science background) and I do know that there are a heck of a lot of "pretenders" out there re psychics and a/c ..... but if we accept, as science tells us, the every living thing has a basic cellular energy and that cells communicate with each other ... is it not illogical if we deny the possiblity that this energy can be tuned into if one has a talent or education :confused:

Reiki hold that as its principle ;)


I know Jackie Weaver and she has deonstrated quite some accuracy as she lives local to me and I know several people who use her services (I have in the past)
 
That made very interesting reading!

I have been toying with the idea of using a communicator, but knowing who to use seems to be a bit of a minefield. Would you mind letting me know who you used?
 
I have a animal communicater once a year. I totally agree that some things you can think either they may be just guessing or they're generalisations but other things are so accurate and so unique to that animal there is no way she can guess it. Also and what makes me believe is how the animals react to her, it's weird and I can't really describe it but I'll try. The new horse we have was seen by her last november, he was really wound up (not like him), scraping floor, would not stand still and was throwing head around. Anyway he 'said' he wanted to go galloping NOW, he couldn't due to a tendon injury. She told him this and explained why he couldn't go and he just totally relaxed. It was amazing, it was like someone had taken his batteries out!
 
I am open minded about all sorts of things but thought I would try to find out more about animal communication. I booked myself on a course run by Caroline Booth, a member of the equine department at Reaseheath College. I have nothing whatsoever to do with Caroline or Reaseheath. A very revealing course! By the end of it, a day, I had 'communicated' with a dog via the photo another course member had brought. All the people on the course were total strangers to me & although we had been asked to bring a photo of an animal we were asked not to talk about our animal. If you are interested give it a go.
 
This is really interesting. I know someone who sent a cutting from her horses mane to a communicator and was told some really interesting things. I must admit I would love to know what our boy has to say as he was shunted around a bit before he came to us and took a long while to settle. I am in Essex- any one know anyone good local to me or details of how to get an e mail reading? Please feel free to PM me if you prefer.
 
jaijai said:
This is really interesting. I know someone who sent a cutting from her horses mane to a communicator and was told some really interesting things. I must admit I would love to know what our boy has to say as he was shunted around a bit before he came to us and took a long while to settle. I am in Essex- any one know anyone good local to me or details of how to get an e mail reading? Please feel free to PM me if you prefer.
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This applies to me too, I'm Essex too
 
YorksG said:
We had a communication by e-mail that was astonishing. The even more amazing thing is that even though I have met the communicator since, the horse never has but the poor woman now gets random 'visits' from my mare, sometimes just to chat, other times to give her information. The communicator also got in touch when our other mare died, to ask if lilac/purple had been imortant to her, it had, all her stuff was purple or mauve and we have purple/lilac hanging baskets,which she used to try and eat. The other very odd thing that week was that sister, visiting friend and I had the strongest smell of lavender in the field. I can't explain any of it, but it has worked for us.
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Would you mind PMing me your AC's name, please?
 
Wow - really interesting reading peoples experiences and opinions. Well put Tazzle.

It's probably like translating a foreign language, you don't always get the meaning or intination right.

I wish she's told Enys to stop trying to go for me though - He was especially grumpy this morning, he really does not like having people come to do things with him.

- From what i've read of people's responses I am not sure she worked the same. As I am not so sure that she spoke to him, more listened to him. I can't imagine her being able to cure a horse from being scared of ditches. But it might be though just because we were trying to get to the bottom of his health rather than any behavioural issues.

I am based in Sussex, the lady who came out travels around the country. She is not cheap mind you.
 
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I'm intrigued by the whole idea of having a communicator 'talking' to my horse. I would love to hear what Leo has to say!

Can anyone recommend a good AC in gloucestershire?

And how does the email one work?
 
wow, that all sounds really interesting.

I'd like to know what the fat one is thinking, he seems so conflicted, and not knowing anything about him, other than his ex owner didnt give a crap about him.

I think all the pink one thinks is, is it time for food? can i have an ear scratch? Please scratch my tummy? stroke my head please? Can i have some food? I dont want to do that?

Shes pretty easy to read and i know her full history.
 
People put so much stuff on the internet it is easy to find out info about people. She must have had your name and I imagine your RI would have mentioned the horse's name to her at some point when she mentioned the accident. So much of it sounds like guesses to me. A lot of horses have difficulties tracking up. A lot of people use something that could be 2 reins, long reining, pessoas, lungue bungies, draw reins etc. It's interesting she didn't mention the biting until after she had witnessed it.

I don't like the way that if all their info is wrong they blame you "because you don't believe it" and they won't refund your money if everything they tell you is wrong.
 
horsegirl said:
People put so much stuff on the internet it is easy to find out info about people. She must have had your name and I imagine your RI would have mentioned the horse's name to her at some point when she mentioned the accident. So much of it sounds like guesses to me. A lot of horses have difficulties tracking up. A lot of people use something that could be 2 reins, long reining, pessoas, lungue bungies, draw reins etc. It's interesting she didn't mention the biting until after she had witnessed it.

I don't like the way that if all their info is wrong they blame you "because you don't believe it" and they won't refund your money if everything they tell you is wrong.
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I can't tell whether it was a con or not. Certainly in my case she could have found absolutley everything on my blog...However my RI says that she didn't tell her about Enys...only last year about my previous horse Ettie. So she never had Enys name (I didn't give it to her prior)

Although a good researcher probaby could find about us on the internet, I did not use my full name (which is probably searchable). There are alot of people out there who don't publish all the details about their horses on the web...Though I wouldn't be suprised if some used the web as a tool.

The lady definetly didn't strike me as being computer literate. However I may be wrong - who knows. :) - I would like to believe it was all possible ;)
 
This post has really interested me.

OP, am I allowed to ask who it was?

Yesterday, I had a lady from Glos. come to see my lad. It really wasn't what I expected. She seemed to focus only on problems and pain, etc.

She is going to order me some homeopathic 'medicine' and reckons he will be absolutely fine in a week or so!! These soundness issues have been going on since I got him and nobody can tell me what is wrong (it only seems very slight). He has even had a bone scan. Whether or not she is correct in her diagnosis, she was absolutely spot with his symptoms and the way he moves and stands, etc. She hadn't seem him out of the stable or move at all.

Anyway, she says his problem is genetic and he has been in pain all his life (not agony - but painful). Apparently, he doesn't have enough cartilidge at the top of his leg bones (cannon bone, pastern, etc.) (not the joint, but where the bones join the joints). This is causing pain.

I should receive the 'medicine' early next week and will be very interested to see if it helps!

I was really quite sceptical, but she was spot on with everything.
 
I used to be sceptical about all sorts, such as communicators, acupuncture and shiatsu (helping energy flows, chi and all that jazz).

But...having heard stories from people that have used these successfully I'm starting to change my mind.

I know there are some things which could be quite general but people have mentioned really specific things that you just wouldn't know.

I do think the world is full of cons though - same with human mediums etc...You have to be careful that they're not taking you for a ride.
 
I am a very big sceptic when it comes to AC. I am a believer, but in the past have had a couple of bad experiences with very general responses, or just totally inaccurate information, that have put me off using an AC.

But having recently had someone recommended to me I decided to use her, You could ask 3 specific questions that you would like answers to, and I got the email reply the other day. She was so spot on - she made comments that she couldn't possibly know about (I made sure my questions were quite general) and I am convinced that she is genuine.

Perhaps it helps that my horse is a good subject - I don't know. But it was very interesting.
 
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