Event riders? - What is a PNP class?

[Tangaroo]

I notice on the 2008 fixture list some events have a class called PNP. Does anyone know what this is?

 

[ccooxxyy]

could it be PN for ponies?? not sure!!

 

[Bossanova]

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could it be PN for ponies?? not sure!!

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Yep, thats right

 

[NoCollection]

I heard that it is Pre-Novice Plus - dressage and SJ at Novice level and cross-country at Pre-Novice level. Rather like the Intermediate Novice class, bridging the gap between the two classes.

 

[Bossanova]

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I heard that it is Pre-Novice Plus - dressage and SJ at Novice level and cross-country at Pre-Novice level. Rather like the Intermediate Novice class, bridging the gap between the two classes.

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Oh really?
How fascinating!! Think it will be popular

 

[hotellie]

where is this class?

 

[SillyMare]

Don't know what would posess anyone to do N dressage and SJ and PN XC - dressage and SJ are the most difficult bits by miles!

Just my opinion though...

 

[Tangaroo]

I quite agree! I presently do Intro and would love to move up to prenovice. My only phobia is the SJ. If i could do intro dress and sj and pre novice XC i would be happy!

 

[LEC]

Agree - N dressage is very straightforward and the xc usually has alternatives plus there are milder events than others. Its the SJ thats a nightmare and if you pass that test you deserve to go N XC!
IMO its far cheaper and does not appear on your record to go and practice 1.10 BSJA than doing a PNP!

 

[lifeslemons]

In an IN the showjumping is 1.20, half way between novice and intermediate. Does that mean in this PNP it will 1.10, half way between novice and pre-novice?

 

[H-J]

Wouldnt half way between PN & N be 1.05?

And you could say the same about IN - the dress & Sj at Intermediate are difficult so why then go Nov XC. Swings in round abouts. I think it will be popular.

Whats the restrictions on them? And where are they?

 

[Tangaroo]

I dont know what the restrictions are for them, i just noticed the first one is at Tweseldown in march.

 

[hotellie]

Mar 6-9 TWESELDOWN (1) Hampshire ON, PN, OPN, I, OI, N, PNP Schedule in Preparation
Apr 15-16 EBBESBOURNE WAKE Wiltshire Intro, PN, PNP, OPN, OIntro Schedule in Preparation
May 17-18 ARLEY HALL Cheshire ON, OPN, PN, N, PNRF, IN, PNP Schedule in Preparation
May 24-25 PONTISPOOL (1) Somerset N, PN, Intro, IN, JRN, 4YO, PNP Schedule in Preparation

This is what i found on BE.

 

[seabiscuit]

I think that is a bit pointless- the Novice XC is easy once youv'e got past the horrendus showjumping! And a big PN course is much the same as an easy Novice course don't you think?

I do see the point of IN but really think that this PNP class is not needed

 

[lifeslemons]

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Wouldnt half way between PN & N be 1.05?

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Sorry, I was referring to maximum heights.

 

[H-J]

I personally disagree (sorry!

) Im not sure what all your events are like but round me the Novice's are much bigger/technical then the PN's.

Take Stratford Hills, Great Witchingham, Borde Hill etc etc.

Not sure if that is relevant to the OP!!

But I think the events near me are def different, and the SJing and the events near me is allways HUGE!!!!

 

[Saf]

What about horses with points, quite fancy one at Tweseldown as can't get passed the coffin in the Nov

so would suit us

 

[LEC]

I can understand your viewpoint but the intermediate dressage tests demand a great deal more than the novice dressage tests so do not think that is a very fair comparable. But I can see a great deal of people doing it. Plus they have chosen a good course in Ebbesbourne Wake as it is a beefy PN in places with some fences which would not be out of place in a novice though not very technical.

 

[Diane_Pepper]

I think it sounds good that they're trying to bridge the gap between PN & N, but I agree with lots of people that the SJ would be the most worrying thing for me, rather than the XC.
Makes my stomach turn thinking about N size SJ!

 

[SpruceRI]

I'd give that a go as I'm more scared of trying Novice XC, than SJ.

Why is it called PNP though? Sounds more likely to be for ponies so they'll reduce the striding in the PN SJ to accommodate the ponies?

 

[Bossanova]

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I think that is a bit pointless- the Novice XC is easy once youv'e got past the horrendus showjumping! And a big PN course is much the same as an easy Novice course don't you think?

I do see the point of IN but really think that this PNP class is not needed

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But lots of people ARE more scared of the xc. Many people couldnt care less about the sj so I think it's wrong to assume that this format wont be popular.
For a horse like Moon who has always found the sj very easy I would have been happy to do a PNP before going novice.

 

[MagicMelon]

I think most people are scared of the XC. I find the SJ the easiest bit (but then I BSJA) - anybody can work on this phase by simply doing some BSJA's, however trying to get XC practice in is much harder because unaffiliated tracks only go to 1.05/1.10 and often are still nothing like Novice tracks, so its harder to know if you're ready.

What I want is an intermediate with easy dressage! THAT is the worst phase for me!

 

[ajf]

I'm still sure its for ponies as there was a couple last year for ponies. Could be a mid-way step though!
The prob with IN is u need points to do it, but for Int u don't!!!!! Find this funny!!! I went straight to Int and then won points but can't win any at novice!!!!

 

[Bossanova]

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I'm still sure its for ponies as there was a couple last year for ponies. Could be a mid-way step though!
The prob with IN is u need points to do it, but for Int u don't!!!!! Find this funny!!! I went straight to Int and then won points but can't win any at novice!!!!

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You dont need points to do IN....

 

[SillyMare]

Anyone fancy staring a poll? I don't know how to do that.

What is the 'scarey' phase when moving up a level BE:
Dressage
Show Jumping
Cross country
(entry fees!!!)

Show jumping all the way for me!

 

[Bossanova]

 

[SillyMare]

Thanks.