eventer producing sires?

[amandaco2]

im not to up to date with eventing sires as im more interested in dressage

my friend has a TB mare she would like to breed.

the mare is TB, slightly light of bone.

her conformation issues are her flat feet (which i have said are inheritable) prone to bruising, otherwise she has nice conformation.

she is 6, 15.3hh and evented at novice level before going lame(vet fond bone cycst in the stifle and she had time off due to bruising every now and again) she moves nicely and has a very nice temperment.

the ideal foal would be slightly chunkier and bigger with improved feet aimed at intermediate plus eventing.

anyone know of any good producing sires that sound as if they would compliment her?will try to get a side on pic of her.

 

[KatB]

Mill Law is very popular, but would try and find an Irish x to conteract the TB light bone and flat feet!

 

[vicijp]

Go for something light topped. You may not get something with acres of bone, but you would lessen the risk of producing no bone and all top.

 

[airedale]

Brendon Hill Event stallions
Welton stallions

and what is the prognosis in regard to the bone cyst as carrying a foal pulls onto the system of the mare and foaling is hard work for the mare

also have a vet assess the vulva to make sure that she isn't going to be prone to a breeding problem as more than a few TB mares have problems in that regard

 

[amandaco2]

will pass this on

the vet has passed her as hack/breeding but hasnt done full breeding soundness work up on her. i will recomend she does so before she sends her mare away to stud

 

[severnmiles]

Welton Double Cracker....drool!

 

[Maesfen]

Have a look at One More Tiger (www.haggswoodstud.co.uk) he is throwing nice sorts with good bone and feet even from light mares. Bea is in foal to him - everything crossed and he's now living here with us and is the perfect gent.
There's also the coloured, Bazaars Texas who throws well built stock, getting some decent jumpers through now (grandsire is Dallas!) They're on 01785 822221. Neither of them are that far from you either.

 

[S_N]

Don't dismiss One More Tiger from his picture on their website - it does him absolutely no justice at all!! When Mel pulled him out for me and my Mum to look at, I could hardly believe it was the same horse!!!!

Also Catherston Liberator is throwing some lovely youngstgers and he'll certainly ad some bone! He evented to Advanced and also Dressaged to Advanved Medium I think. I never got on terribly well with him, but his youngsters have very good brains and move well with good feet and bone!

 

[maestro]

Our Stallion is Graded Advanced Eventing stallion. He has Krisinsky on the dam side and seems to throw god bone on TB mares. see www.westonstud.co.uk

 

[Bossanova]

Weston Justice for pure class, McGuigan for toughness and strength, any Opposition stallion to add a bit of movement and a better jump technique.

Then there's Accondy (deceased but there is semen available) Jumbo, a couple of nice Jumbo sons and some of the welton stuff. I like Primitive Star too.

Alternatively, a nice selle francais or modern warmblood type.

With a pure TB mare you've got so many options!!

 

[Irishcobs]

Some of the Weltons are good, there is one I would avoid.
Brendon Hill stallions, specially the Ben Faerie lines.
And most of the Jumbo sons are nice too
We have a couple of Liberator babies, they are really nice.

 

[Panther]

Liberator, Dazzler, Faerie, McGuigan

 

[magic104]

Up with the Lark
Jumbo
to add a couple of others

 

[amandaco2]

she likes the thought of using a trak or WB type- she would have to go for quite an old fashioned one to add more bone though..?
all great ideas thanks guys

 

[Panther]

Goulton ...up Yorkshire used to breed a very good sort.. Trek x TB.. we have a Goulton Horse.. superb... and several been to Badminton! Think her name is Sharon? can't remember but if would like her details again if anyone has..

 

[scaremcclare]

it has to be WELTON DOUBLE CRACKER! hes an up and coming sire with so much potential and is a stunning horse with so much scope.

 

[ihatework]

Double cracker certainly is a lovely looking horse, I still prefer Ambassador though!

Out of interest does anyone know why double cracker has changed rider 4 times in 3 seasons?
I also assume his lack of runs and most runs being in spring/autumn would be down to his breeding comittments?

 

[Bounty]

The Barrs used to use Matthew Wright for everything, but seem to have pulled all their horses out from under him. Whether this was his decision or theirs I don't know.
Also don't know why so many people in such quick succession, but the fact that WFP only had the one ride sugests that he might just have been stepping in?
All I know is that when I spoke to Linda a couple of weeks ago she was saying how hard it is to match the horses to suitable riders in order to make sure that the Welton's are getting the right sort of coverage.
ETS: Pippa Funnell had the ride while DC stood at Home Farm Stud, Hartpury rather than at Limbury. DC no longer stands there and Pippa now has the ride on Hartpury's Take It ToThe Limit instead....

 

[magic104]

http://www.landfordcommonstud.co.uk/lcs_py.html
Fleetwater Opposition has offspring, but I think he is available via frozen AI

 

[airedale]

If you want to add bone and substance look at Treliver Decanter.

I've got a cracking 2 yr old by him that will event as well as show hunter and dressage out of a welshxAA mare

and he's got plenty of bone and is already 15.3 at 2 from a 14.1 mare

He's standing at Quainton this year - so you could go and look at all the Quainton stallions and their 'visiting' ones at the same time - they've got some cracking horses there

 

[Panther]

Airedale - derek is fab and great temp... what's the name of the one you have?

 

[airedale]

Fanta - but he's for sale as he's not pally and he's not a filly - so then I can send his mum back to Derek and try again

He moves for fun and my vet seriously rates him and he's an absolute darling to handle - got both mum and dads temp

we know he can jump - he jumps leccy tape on white plastic posts for fun in the winter so I've given up with trying to divide fields with it ;-))

and from a 14.1 mum Derek is certainly adding size and quality - mind you mum is no dope either - she's SH pony and also does XC and SJ and is a graded sports mare.

If Fanta was pally and a boy he'd be staying or if he wasn't pally and a girl he'd stay but I already have trouble getting a rider for his mum - even despite someone on here passing word around in show ring site for me - let alone going thru the process of trying to find rider for a 4 yr old in 2 years time - plus I need his stable for a different mare that's in foal to Aimbrey Chester and due next year

 

[Panther]

what is pally??

perhaps a regional thing?

PM me pics and details I might be interested

 

[amandaco2]

pally means palmino
i was also thinking about derek as i do like his foals alot.will he produce eventers though?always thought he was more dressage lines.

 

[Panther]

God how stupid am i? lol!!!!!

Yes he has masses of bone and movement.. my children went in stable with him, so loving, he has been well produced.. sweetie! He has thrown eventing type stock.. Hat trick was lovely.. lady on this site brought him..

Never seen him jump? Definate DR unproven BE.. but has lovely quality!!

 

[ihatework]

Is this one yours Airedale? Still no luck in selling him?
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/marketplace/classified/details.php?id=71277

 

[airedale]

yep

that's the boy and he is fab - derek is a great dad

 

[airedale]

oh - he's so cuddly - I always say to Gill give him a hug from me and she replies that he's now too tall for her to get her arms round his neck !!

meant as a compliment - he reminds me so much of my little palomino welsh A - you want to put your arms round her as well and she's so cute and loving - and derek to me is just a big male version of her - and he does just make me want to give him a hug - but as Im not very tall I won't reach either

 

[Spot_the_Risk]

Check our www.whorridge.co.uk they stand some very good event type stallion (full brother to Prinmores Pride, for instance) and you can't get much more experienced in the eventing world than Clissy Bleekman.

 

[eventing_kid]

Hi there

A lot of people dissgard horses in todays breeding would due to the price of covering fees. i dont know what your money state is but if your friend is wanting a true super star then i can strongly recomend horses that have passed on but have semen frozen such as Primative Rising, Mayhill, Fleetwater Opposision. Primores hill is also a fantastic stallion. hope this helps pm me if you want any more help.