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well i found my terrier mix (mongrel) in pets4homes, saw puppies with mum and dad, have pictures and info on breeding of both of his parents, he is a healthy, happy, friendly little chap who i could have re homed hundreds of times, so they are out there, just need to weed out the puppy farmers and make sure you see the pup with at least his mum....
 

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Is a mongrel less lightly to escape then?
None of my dogs try to escape to be honest. If we're working in the garden, they won't step beyond the gate posts. Trouble is, dog rescues want dog proof fencing, which was fine in our previous house and we'd had some fantastic dogs from the RSPCA and a local charity.
 

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None of my dogs try to escape to be honest. If we're working in the garden, they won't step beyond the gate posts. Trouble is, dog rescues want dog proof fencing, which was fine in our previous house and we'd had some fantastic dogs from the RSPCA and a local charity.

Yes, sorry. I realised that after I’d posted.
 

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I’ve never thought of using FB to source a puppy. Saying that, there are currently loads for sale on the French springer group I’m on.

I would use Gundogs for sale or similar. I know the breeder I want for my next two, although it’ll be years before I need him.
 

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I don't have a dog proof garden but then again I don't have them out there unsupervised/without me anyway....they're in the house or a run or the car or a crate or a walk or training. Turfing a dog out into a garden and expecting it to suit itself is part of the problem in a lot of cases....

Who mentioned turfing a dog out unsupervised in the garden ? Our dogs tend to be where ever we are, and that's usually outside. However, they are well trained and after walking several miles each day and being involved in what we're doing throughout the day, they don't feel the need to wander off. We don't use a run or crate to contain them.
 

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My lot aren’t generally supervised in the garden. We basically nailed chicken wire to the conifers and reinforced the neighbour’s fence to stop the little buggers escaping. 😂 Running repairs at the weekend. The neighbours haven’t renewed the fence and there are dog sized holes in it beyond our gate. They said they’d do it about 14 years ago and have left lovely panels to rot for as long. Funny bunch and it’s our responsibility to contain our dogs, so I wouldn’t rely on them.
 

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Who mentioned turfing a dog out unsupervised in the garden ? Our dogs tend to be where ever we are, and that's usually outside. However, they are well trained and after walking several miles each day and being involved in what we're doing throughout the day, they don't feel the need to wander off. We don't use a run or crate to contain them.

Good :) if it's not a problem then my post is not relevant to you, is it?

My dogs are well trained and walked too, but am very fond of them and don't want anything bad to happen to them or anyone else's pets. For instance when I came home on Sunday night, there were two cats and a Yorkshire terrier (me neither!!) on the lane outside my house. If I had just been in the house and opened the door and let them out, that would have been extremely irresponsible of me. You see how many stories there are of dogs going missing from gardens. You can't train a dog to do anything if it isn't with you, eh?

Anyhoo my point being....dogs put out in gardens yapping, being destructive or running away is the reason a lot of rescues are snowed under. Dog-proof garden does not equal good owner.
 
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I don't have a dog proof garden but then again I don't have them out there unsupervised/without me anyway....they're in the house or a run or the car or a crate or a walk or training. Turfing a dog out into a garden and expecting it to suit itself is part of the problem in a lot of cases....
Quite. I don't want to derail this but it has frustrated me for years that rescues and some breeders demand/insist that a property is 'dog proofed' with 6ft solid fencing to qualify for a rescue or a puppy. In many cases that is nigh on impossible and does suggest that a dog can just be left out on it's own as long as the fence is tall enough. Most of the dogs I have had would need more than 6ft fencing to keep them in if they were really determined to go somewhere and they haven't been 'manic' or 'difficult' dogs - just clever and athletic ones! It's simple as CC says - you should always know where your blooming dogs are and have them under supervision of some sort! In my case, I can't dog proof our hilly smallholding, nor do I want to live surrounded by 6ft fencing so our dogs have to learn to either stay with us or stay inside. They soon get it tbh and we haven't really ever had a dog that hasn't learnt quite quickly to live the way we need it to.
 

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My lot aren’t generally supervised in the garden. We basically nailed chicken wire to the conifers and reinforced the neighbour’s fence to stop the little buggers escaping. 😂 Running repairs at the weekend. The neighbours haven’t renewed the fence and there are dog sized holes in it beyond our gate. They said they’d do it about 14 years ago and have left lovely panels to rot for as long. Funny bunch and it’s our responsibility to contain our dogs, so I wouldn’t rely on them.


I don't know about dogs and gardens but I love your new avatar 😃
 

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TBF to facebook it's not a new ban, they have just spent a long while not enforcing it very strongly

community standards only mention 'sale' however given that any sale ad that includes a picture of a horse (say modelling a rug) is being refused a free rehome isn't likely to get through either atm.
 

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I don't really see the difference between advertising a litter on FB (or online in general) or in a magazine/paper, shop noticeboard, vets etc. The ban on sale of animals on FB will not stop irresponsible breeders from breeding and selling to unsuitable homes.
 

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I actually think the interactive nature of Facebook can actually act against puppy farmers and dodgy dealers. I seen several instances of people flagging up ads as being potential puppy farmers, or pointing out a dealer is dodgy, or asking if puppies' parents are health-tested etc.
 

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I can understand why some rescues won’t let dogs go to potential owners who have not dog-proofed their garden. They have (hopefully) spent time & money on getting a rescue ready for new owners. Unfortunately, not on some potential owners. The last thing a rescue wants to hear is that Fido has done a runner.
 

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Forever hounds and grey hound trust - wouldnt have seen them as I do not want any form of greyhoud, whippet etc.

Adopt a dog north east - just had a quick google and can't find them, do you have a link at all?

I will look at Hereford and Worcester Animal Rescue

I’ve just re-read this thread and it occurs to me that with this attitude it is no wonder rescues refuse to re-home to you

In my experience most users would have replied “Oh thanks Levrier for the suggestions”...but no, you exude the attitude that you have an absolute entitlement to adopt a dog of your choice despite what the rescue organisation’s assessment of that dog might be

Incredible ☹️
 

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The last thing a rescue wants to hear is that Fido has done a runner.

its a shame rescues don't inspect the loaner's car set up then, most of the rescue dogs that have done a runner round here (including the most recent down the road that was running amok for three weeks during lambing) have done so on arriving home and the new owner opening the boot. A dog proof garden is a useful thing but so is some common sense.
 

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its a shame rescues don't inspect the loaner's car set up then, most of the rescue dogs that have done a runner round here (including the most recent down the road that was running amok for three weeks during lambing) have done so on arriving home and the new owner opening the boot. A dog proof garden is a useful thing but so is some common sense.

Sadly the one thing a rescue organisation cannot definitively judge is the capacity of a new adopter to act in a reasonable manner. If they did so even fewer people would be allowed rescue dogs than currently is the case - in my own experiences over the past 16 years of having rescue dogs, the reasons for losing them/returning them is just beyond belief

So then we have the endless whinging that rescues are so restrictive, they won’t let anyone re-home a dog, it’s ridiculous so I went and got a puppy.... the rescues cannot win ☹️
 

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I’ve just re-read this thread and it occurs to me that with this attitude it is no wonder rescues refuse to re-home to you

In my experience most users would have replied “Oh thanks Levrier for the suggestions”...but no, you exude the attitude that you have an absolute entitlement to adopt a dog of your choice despite what the rescue organisation’s assessment of that dog might be

Incredible ☹️

And your attitude that everyone must love greyhounds/whippets is beyond me. I dont like how they look, i dont find them at all attractive so regardless of how the rescue assesses them i dont want them.

I have very few requirements in a dog, not a grey hound/whippet, not a staffy type, medium or small dog sized, good with my current dog and good with or at least neutral towards children (I don’t have any kids but have 5 young nieces and nephews that i don't want being bitten). Other than that everything else can be worked on.

When I wasn’t working I regularly had dogs from golden retriever rescues, often as a last chance saloon and had a pretty good record of turning them round, but then i moved accross the country and got a full time job.
My facilities for a dog are better than they used to be but as soon as you tick the box on the form that says you work full time you get rejected, most of the time without ever talking to a human.

I don’t believe i should be allowed to adopt any dog i want regardless of assessment, however i do believe that charities with blanket bans against rehoming to anyone who works full time (which is the vast majority in this country) are needlessly denying good homes to dogs.

I rehomed my current dog from an online advert, I’m currently looking for another and getting very frustrated with the blanket bans to the point im probably going to buy a puppy or go to a foreign rescue, Both of which i have previously been against as i believe we have more than enough of our home grown dogs needing rehoming, but needs must.
 

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And your attitude that everyone must love greyhounds/whippets is beyond me. I dont like how they look, i dont find them at all attractive so regardless of how the rescue assesses them i dont want them.

I have very few requirements in a dog, not a grey hound/whippet, not a staffy type, medium or small dog sized, good with my current dog and good with or at least neutral towards children (I don’t have any kids but have 5 young nieces and nephews that i don't want being bitten). Other than that everything else can be worked on.

When I wasn’t working I regularly had dogs from golden retriever rescues, often as a last chance saloon and had a pretty good record of turning them round, but then i moved accross the country and got a full time job.
My facilities for a dog are better than they used to be but as soon as you tick the box on the form that says you work full time you get rejected, most of the time without ever talking to a human.

I don’t believe i should be allowed to adopt any dog i want regardless of assessment, however i do believe that charities with blanket bans against rehoming to anyone who works full time (which is the vast majority in this country) are needlessly denying good homes to dogs.

I rehomed my current dog from an online advert, I’m currently looking for another and getting very frustrated with the blanket bans to the point im probably going to buy a puppy or go to a foreign rescue, Both of which i have previously been against as i believe we have more than enough of our home grown dogs needing rehoming, but needs must.

Oh dear.... lol here... please find me the post where I’ve suggested that everyone should love greyhounds and whippets? Every breed has it’s fans and it’s detractors, one size does not fit all and it is easy to tell even from online posts which owners wouldn't suit a greyhound or whippet temperament.

I’ve never been rejected by a rescue, and I’ve applied to quite a few generalist as well as sighthound specialist ones. Maybe it is the other information I supply on my application, maybe it is my attitude and approach.... who knows
 

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The one thing I’ve found when looking at rescues, all the ones I would take a closer look at if I was looking seem to be only pet homes.
exactly what i found, the only ones that could go with another dog went before i had even applied or they couldnt be left at all..... what i found odd was that some of these dogs were less than a year so surely they could have adapted to living with another dog . the rescues wouldnt budge on the ones i enquired about so i ended up buying a puppy as i wanted to get one during the summer months....i was looking for 4 months and just got fed up with hitting a brick wall...i am retired and at the time had a horse and was honest in the applications and said dog would be left at home with my other dog for 2 hours daily and if crate trained would be left in crate or i could put my dog in crate so no danger of a fight.. how many people can honestly say their dog is never left, we all have doctors,dentist appts and life has to go on and dogs have to adapt to fit in, surely better than being in kennels 24/7....
 

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exactly what i found, the only ones that could go with another dog went before i had even applied or they couldnt be left at all..... what i found odd was that some of these dogs were less than a year so surely they could have adapted to living with another dog . the rescues wouldnt budge on the ones i enquired about so i ended up buying a puppy as i wanted to get one during the summer months....i was looking for 4 months and just got fed up with hitting a brick wall...i am retired and at the time had a horse and was honest in the applications and said dog would be left at home with my other dog for 2 hours daily and if crate trained would be left in crate or i could put my dog in crate so no danger of a fight.. how many people can honestly say their dog is never left, we all have doctors,dentist appts and life has to go on and dogs have to adapt to fit in, surely better than being in kennels 24/7....
This is exactly what I'm coming up against at the moment, I don't want a puppy but am at the point of buying one because I'm so frustrated at rescues who would rather kennel the dog 24/7 then have it in a home but left for a few hours a day (with another dog).
 

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It's probably more of a manners thing?
Answer problems with solutions and there's either no thanks or an instant rebuff. Same the world over I suppose :)
 

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This is exactly what I'm coming up against at the moment, I don't want a puppy but am at the point of buying one because I'm so frustrated at rescues who would rather kennel the dog 24/7 then have it in a home but left for a few hours a day (with another dog).

this was my problem as was old (72) and really didnt want a puppy, i wanted something 8 to 10 years old as my current dog was 12 and still lively so didnt want an oldie who couldnt walk very far, i still worry that my terrier will outlive me but have already organised that my sister would have any dogs i own if i die and as she is 15 years younger than me hopefully she will be around for them... i could have had any number of staffies, big dogs,,lurchers and poodle crosses or foreign dogs. i wouldnt take a foreign dog as i dont agree with importing when we have lots of dogs here, didnt want a big dog or a staffie, and couldnt face having another lurcher as i was ,and still am, heartbroken after losing my last one. and i dont like the feel of a poodle coat so they were out as well...just wanted something smaller than a border collie that wouldnt bully my existing collie....
 

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Ah well, I see some of the more prolific 'one on the ground and one on the way' breeders are getting around it already by starting new pages with clever wording **rolls eyes**
 

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its a shame rescues don't inspect the loaner's car set up then, most of the rescue dogs that have done a runner round here (including the most recent down the road that was running amok for three weeks during lambing) have done so on arriving home and the new owner opening the boot. A dog proof garden is a useful thing but so is some common sense.

Common sense, ime, amongst a lot of dog owners, left the room a long time ago!🤫
 

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Another point - just saw on FB that an entire litter of Frenchies has been stolen.
The pictures of the stolen pups are screenshots from a free ad site.

When you advertise a litter on a FB sales page or free ad site with a mahoosive price tag, especially when when it's certain breeds, it can make your home a target.
 
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Another point - just saw on FB that an entire litter of Frenchies has been stolen.
The pictures of them stolen pups are screenshots from a free ad site.

When you advertise a litter on a FB sales page or free ad site with a mahoosive price tag, especially when when it's certain breeds, it can make your home a target.

I always think I bet anyone could find out my address by using FB, quite easily. It does make you think. I am slightly getting the maybe breed from Ffee urge, but you do wonder how to safely sell them, and another topic but how to find good homes.
 
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