Facebook strikes again

[SantaVera]

There's a page on there dedicated to sarcoids allegedly,except it isn't it's dedicated to selling the cream that someone has invented, apparently this product works wonders on sarcoids. What rot, what does work is Liverpool cream,banding or Lazer treatment from a veterinary surgeon not some herbal snake oil concocted by some random charletan. I advised a poster call the vet out and told them Liverpool cream was prescribed for mine and it worked. I've had post removal and a pm sent to me about it. Honestly in the interests of animal welfare these pages need banning. It's a bit like another issue,a friend of mine who is a vet was telling me of a case study she learned about at a seminar. A lady's horse was unwell, symptoms various basically not thriving, after weeks of tests and scoping it was discovered that the owner only believed in herbal products and was worming her horse with a so called herbal wormer,they don't work. A simple tube of ivermectin sorted out the issue. The vets treating the poor horse were incredulous how could an owner be so stupid.

 

[lynz88]

Tbh the only thing that really worked on getting rid of sarcoids on mine was a mix of oily herbs. So I really wouldn't write it off that quickly. Lots of people have had success with the GH Sarc-X which is all herby (I had some success with it but not much).

ETA: that case study is on the side of absurdity.

 

[bonny]

There's a page on there dedicated to sarcoids allegedly,except it isn't it's dedicated to selling the cream that someone has invented, apparently this product works wonders on sarcoids. What rot, what does work is Liverpool cream,banding or Lazer treatment from a veterinary surgeon not some herbal snake oil concocted by some random charletan. I advised a poster call the vet out and told them Liverpool cream was prescribed for mine and it worked. I've had post removal and a pm sent to me about it. Honestly in the interests of animal welfare these pages need banning. It's a bit like another issue,a friend of mine who is a vet was telling me of a case study she learned about at a seminar. A lady's horse was unwell, symptoms various basically not thriving, after weeks of tests and scoping it was discovered that the owner only believed in herbal products and was worming her horse with a so called herbal wormer,they don't work. A simple tube of ivermectin sorted out the issue. The vets treating the poor horse were incredulous how could an owner be so stupid.

Toothpaste ?

 

[Polos Mum]

I spoke to the vet recently about one on a 4 y/o - her view was that on a younger horse they very often clear up on their own as the horses immune system matures.

She thought there were loads of examples where all sorts of weird and wonderful interventions (including vet interventions) had appeared to work - the sarcoid had gone.
But most likely it would have gone on it's own anyway.

Her advice was leave well alone unless it starts to bother him.

 

[SantaVera]

My three year old developed a sarcoid. The watch and wait didn't happen for him it grew. Liverpool cream was prescribed for him and fortunately that worked. Aural plaques went away on their own some years later.

 

[CarlungM]

The Liverpool cream doesn't always work. We spent thousands and it didn't work. Had to resort to surgery. I would try oily herbs first on my own before going for a more nuclear option.

 

[Irish-Only]

I used a cream from a sarcoid fb page and was astounded at the result, and wouldn’t hesitate to use again if necessary. A friends horse was treated with the Liverpool cream and it was clearly very painful for the horse.

 

[southerncomfort]

If its the sarcoid cure page, I understand that many people have had excellent results using her paste.

I was going to try it, except Bo's went away on its own, thank goodness!

 

[Hallo2012]

having removed several sarcoids with a mix of thuja and tumeric i wouldnt be so quick to write it off.......much less traumatic than liverpool cream too.

 

[SantaVera]

Yet more replies from uneducated types, I feel sorry for your horses. Snake oil doesn't work medically proven products do I expect those sarcoids weren't did a vet diagnose them or did you or the yard know it all? Or are you just to tight to get proper medical attention for your animals. If you can't afford them you shouldn't own them.

 

[Hallo2012]

except.

in this case.

its well documented that some alternative remedies DO work on sarcoids.

mine were diagnosed by vet if that matters and the reason for using the alternative cream was animal comfort and not cost.

you need to chill the attitude a bit........................

 

[bonny]

Yet more replies from uneducated types, I feel sorry for your horses. Snake oil doesn't work medically proven products do I expect those sarcoids weren't did a vet diagnose them or did you or the yard know it all? Or are you just to tight to get proper medical attention for your animals. If you can't afford them you shouldn't own them.

Wow, what a closed mind you have

 

[lynz88]

Wow OP calm down. We must all be horrible owners after trying and/or seeing what things like Liverpool cream do (ouchies) and/or having sarcoids growing back after being banded or lasered off. How dare we try alternatives like herbs which actually solved the issue without a big bloody painful mess!

 

[Jambarissa]

There are 9 (I think) different forms of sarcoids. Plus warts which can be hard to distinguish from sarcoids.

Warts and some sarcoids will go away on their own or possibly be helped along by a product which boosts the immune system or speeds up skin turnover.

The problem as I see it is knowing which ones and being aware that just because someone else used Nutella on a growth and it fell off doesn't mean that will happen for your horse.

My mare was treated with Liverpool cream and that was that. If they'd been in a less problematic area and not appearing a welfare issue I might have tried a few products and a wait and see approach.

I think the issue here is people putting too much faith in remedies when they aren't working.

 

[JoannaC]

It's not half term yet is it? Herbs worked for me on two different horses. Obviously it depends on the type and aggression of the sarcoid.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

I got rid of Dex's 6 sarcoids last year with a combination of a supplement I mixed up myself (based on the main ingredients of the popular supplements) and flour/salt paste..
if it works, it works.

 

[Melody Grey]

I have seen good results with gastric supplements which boost immunity for sarcoids. I have no idea if a lot of herbs/ household products applied work or won’t work, but many of them seem innocent enough and could be worth a try before more invasive or expensive approaches. The trick is to recognise when they’re not working or there are adverse effects and to seek veterinary advice in a timely manner.

 

[SpotsandBays]

I’ve used the sarcoid cure recipe to remove multiple small sarcoids… no snake oil involved. Just household items - all of which are safe and I would be comfortable putting my own skin.

Liverpool cream is very expensive, doesn’t always work and can be quite painful. Lasering is expensive and doesn't always work either.

Whilst I think yes we do need to be careful about what information/products people are selling online - it doesn’t mean there aren’t genuine people providing products that do work.

 

[JenJ]

Yet more replies from uneducated types, I feel sorry for your horses. Snake oil doesn't work medically proven products do I expect those sarcoids weren't did a vet diagnose them or did you or the yard know it all? Or are you just to tight to get proper medical attention for your animals. If you can't afford them you shouldn't own them.

Oh, those yard know it alls! They're almost as bad as forum know it alls!

 

[southerncomfort]

If there is an alternative that's been proven to work and doesn't cause the pain of vet prescribed treatments, why wouldn't you try an alternative first?

Bo's tiny little sarcoid in his armpit wasn't life threatening or causing him any bother at all. Frankly I'd have been a bit daft not to try less invasive treatments first.

 

[AandK]

Calm down OP!

My horse had a dangly sarcoid up in between his back legs, that had been there for some time but not dropped off/disappeared like the other couple he had. I meant to get it banded by the vet when she was out back in April, but forgot to remind her at the end of the appt. So I thought I'd try the salt/flour paste and if that didn't work, get it banded when he had his annual jabs in July. But it did work very nicely, sarcoid all gone and not come back! And it has worked for others too, no snake oil here...

 

[Beausmate]

I cleared several sarcoids (diagnosed by several different vets, one sarcoid shelled by two of those vets) from the horse in my avatar using ...... toothpaste Also removed one off another horse the same way. Advantages were - not painful in the slightest, even when the skin was broken as they dropped off, which was just as well, as you wouldn't have got a second application without sedation, on a needle-shy horse. BIG safety concern. It forms a hard coating that only sticks to the sarcoid, keeping flies off. It's cheap and simple and it worked.

Not a permanent fix in his case, but got them under control. I will say that these were long-standing, fairly dormant sarcoids. I wouldn't have done it if they were ulcerated and/or growing rapidly, or on the face or legs.

They've never reappeared on the other horse.

Okay, you can shoot me now!

 

[Snowfilly]

Having seen the pain caused by Liverpool cream - the horse ended up needing bute for a few days as he was in such distress from it - anything with a sarcoid in the future is getting every single mixture of oily herbs, toothpaste and anything else I can get my hands on before going down that route again.

A lot clear up with an improved immune system anyway.

 

[ihatework]

I’d only use Liverpool cream on an aggressive sarcoid and dependant on where it was on the body. It’s not a nice treatment so you have to evaluate the risk-benefit for the horse.

 

[Ceifer]

As others have said - Liverpool cream, banding and laser doesn’t always work.

Sarcoids are in some respects individual to the horse.

Liverpool cream is potent stuff and can cause a large amount of stress and pain.

 

[Spirit7]

A vet who also went on to be a British Olympic Team vet prescribed bloodroot cream to my 7 year old. It wasn’t painless but it worked. He’s 22 now and fine so I’d say there are lots of alternatives. Maybe her forum has rules as unfortunate as they maybe

 

[dougpeg]

As others have said - Liverpool cream, banding and laser doesn’t always work.

Sarcoids are in some respects individual to the horse.

Liverpool cream is potent stuff and can cause a large amount of stress and pain.

Agreed
My sister's horse is blighted with them, or rather she is with the vet costs involved. He's had two operations now to remove them. Liverpool cream doesn't work for him and laser surgery doesn't stop them coming back. It's looking like she is going to have to factor in the cost and agro of having them lasered off each year. Due to where his grow, this means a general anaesthetic and overnight stay. For what it's worth she's spent a fortune on scaroid supplements too.
I can understand why people look at alternatives.

 

[Crugeran Celt]

My mare had a sarcoid under her belly and on her chest. The one on her belly became very long but skinny, it started bleeding and vet recommended tying it of at the base which i did and after a few days it fell off and never regrew. The strange thing was the one on her chest disappeared within a few weeks as well and also never came back. She was about nine when this happened and lived to thirty, never having a sarcoid again.

 

[lynz88]

A vet who also went on to be a British Olympic Team vet prescribed bloodroot cream to my 7 year old. It wasn’t painless but it worked. He’s 22 now and fine so I’d say there are lots of alternatives. Maybe her forum has rules as unfortunate as they maybe

I tried this and it made a big painful bloody mess and didn't work - it took off the top bit of the sarcoid but didn't kill the root . Another example of how individual sarcoids and horses can be.

 

[Ceifer]

I have said this story before but we had a horse on a yard I was managing that had 38 occult sarcoids. He was covered in them. He had come from a very very well known rider who simply put sheepskin cover on girth and any bad ones under the bridle and carried on. They were all over him, face, belly, between his back legs. He was sold to a teenager as a schoolmaster and was only lightly competed compared to his old life. He did PC, hacked a lot, hunted a bit and the sarcoids looked less angry, some of them shrunk, some smaller ones disappeared. He never got rid of all of them but he didn’t have any more develop. So I definitely believe in some horses it is a definite immune/stress response.