Famous stallions' quirks

Broadstone West Country has a reputation for throwing very quirky opinionated horses, and the gelding I know by him certainly is!
 
not as famous as some on here but i wouldn't touch anything by orlando (the colored by oberon) helped a friend sell a mare by him , very tricky and on doing a little snooping found a few others by him the same, a few of them also developed sacoids although i know there not meant to be hireditary
 
I love good breeding and usually find a good looking and athletic horse has good breeding. I tend not to worry about what 'quirks' stallions throw as judge the individual.

I went to see a Puissance horse for sale that was cheap because of the breeding and he had a hell of a buck but his confo was terrible and felt this was why he was limited and probably caused the issues more than his brain.
 
i had a ramiro colt i was going to keep as a stallion, but rejected him at 3 years because he was so nervous, very talented horse, but not what i wanted in my breeding.

the next colt was by the andalusian, Granero, out of an anglo-arab mare, god i love this stallion, so brave and trainable and utterly faithfull, all the energy and paces yet quiet enough to hack on a long rein, goes past anything, i think he has inherited Granero's attitude to work, he loves to be ridden, such a difference to a lot of warmblood horses i know, i often wish i could share him with others, just so they can experience the joy it brings.
 
Personally love Donnerhall as a sire, the progeny I've come across (including my own gelding), had fantastic temperaments, and were very rideable.

Although not so keen on Contender progeny, super sharp, hot and a mean eye. Still have my gelding by Captain Paul (Contender x Salido x Sandro) and you have to have your wits about you to ride him!
 
We have a mare by Hercorse (a son of Samber), and our YO's business partner has her brother, by the same stallion. Ours is coloured (this stallion although piebald does not throw many coloured babies), the other horse is a liver chestnut. They are both very kind and generous, but a bit bitey around meal times and extremely greedy about food. Both are good doers, very accident prone and have dad's powerful bum. Both have grandad's very uphill confirmation and beautiful paces. While the other horse is at 2* level and Mini TX's mare is at Novice, if you look at their records, they do in fact mirror each other up to Novice as well. They both also have extremely kind eyes as well.
 
I used to work with Jumbo. He was just the most gorgeous chap to deal with - and most of his babies were lovely too. I remember one being lazy and nappy - but didn't have any trouble with him once he'd learnt that bad behaviour resulted in a stinging sensation on his bottom!!

The horse in my avatar was second gen Ramiro Z, and he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box! You could put your granny on him to hack out, and he needed a regular rocket up his arse in the school, but he would occasionally get a bee in his bonnet and get completely unreasonable about silly things on the yard. Muck sweat about a new tie ring in his stable - that sort of thing
 
I have heard Cavalier Royale's are sharp, as are Samber horses, can't be many of those left around though. I would never buy a Catherston horse as they are a Pro's ride. It's the business is supposed to be sharp too and Carnival Drum. But sharp might just mean not an amateur horse.

I have heard of a stallion in Devon that throws foals with one eye. :eek:

I used to have a 2nd generation Ramiro Z too, he was a total saint.
 
Another one for Randi. Had a Randi mare out of one of the W's ponies. Stroppy, temperamental, but amazing jumper. Just like him apparently.
 
Auslander said:
I used to work with Jumbo. He was just the most gorgeous chap to deal with - and most of his babies were lovely too. I remember one being lazy and nappy - but didn't have any trouble with him once he'd learnt that bad behaviour resulted in a stinging sensation on his bottom!!

The horse in my avatar was second gen Ramiro Z, and he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box! You could put your granny on him to hack out, and he needed a regular rocket up his arse in the school, but he would occasionally get a bee in his bonnet and get completely unreasonable about silly things on the yard. Muck sweat about a new tie ring in his stable - that sort of thing
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That's comforting to hear about Jumbo and his babies. They can't be that bad, he was highest points earner for his progeny for BE in 2011, not bad for an old boy! I met him at Twemlows last year and he was lovely, such an absolute gent. :) :) :)

iirc the Cavalier Royales are sometimes VERY quirky, and also mental-case brave, not always what you want!
 
I've heard that Alflora horses tend to be quite prone to worrying/ being quite sensitive, and Reg fulfils that perfectly- he's lovely but does worry about the little things if he's allowed to!
 
My Mill Law's a thug! Extremely cheeky, don't leave him without a job for more than a couple of minutes or he'll find something to entertain himself. Quite sharp to ride at home but an utter pro to compete and a natural XC. I'd hesitate to say 'professional's horse' as I am far from a professional but I would say very much suited to a fairly intensive competitive program. No nastiness but a lot of joie de vivre and a total disrespect for your personal space, though this may have been his (lack of) upbringing ;).

Other Mill Laws that I know have certainly been best when kept occupied.

Anyone got any experience of Iroko or Voltaire/Furioso lines?
 
kerilli said:
That's comforting to hear about Jumbo and his babies. They can't be that bad, he was highest points earner for his progeny for BE in 2011, not bad for an old boy! I met him at Twemlows last year and he was lovely, such an absolute gent. :) :) :)

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He's an utter darling. Never so much as looked sideways at a mare unless he had his "special" bridle on, and you could do anything with him. Probably the most mannerly horse I've ever dealt with - stallion, mare or gelding. He's amazing with mares too - quite the smooth operator with tricky ones. Knows what buttons to push to make even tricky mares putty in his hands!! Loved him to bits!

I love stallions. I've known some lovely ones, and some absolute gits - but never met one I didn't like working with. Crown Extravagant was another lovely one - I'd love to know what happened to him. I rode him as a 4 yr old when he came to Talland - loved him to bits!
 
Gamebird said:
My Mill Law's a thug! Extremely cheeky, don't leave him without a job for more than a couple of minutes or he'll find something to entertain himself. Quite sharp to ride at home but an utter pro to compete and a natural XC. I'd hesitate to say 'professional's horse' as I am far from a professional but I would say very much suited to a fairly intensive competitive program. No nastiness but a lot of joie de vivre and a total disrespect for your personal space, though this may have been his (lack of) upbringing ;).

Other Mill Laws that I know have certainly been best when kept occupied.

Anyone got any experience of Iroko or Voltaire/Furioso lines?
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I have - Voltaire/Darco and Irco Polo lines. Lovely straight horses - personally found conformation is very good. Lovely canters and very correct to a fence. Careful and bold. Voltaire horse look spookily similar even through him as a damsire. They would probably be a little less blood with a bit more bone. Haven't got anything really as a downside IMHO.
 
All the Catherston horses Ive known have suffered from terrible sweetitch. I have only ever known a couple of Fleetwater Opposition babies but have heard they can be tricky, and this would definitely be the case for those two - talented but certainly not easy!
 
Any views on Chellano Z progeny?

I have a foal with Cruising on the Dam's side and Chellano Z/ Ramiro on the Sire's.

He'd better blooming well jump!! :D
 
Mildred said:
All the Catherston horses Ive known have suffered from terrible sweetitch. I have only ever known a couple of Fleetwater Opposition babies but have heard they can be tricky, and this would definitely be the case for those two - talented but certainly not easy!
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I knew an absolute witch of a mare by Dutch Gold, also had really awful sweetitch
 
kerilli said:
That's comforting to hear about Jumbo and his babies. They can't be that bad, he was highest points earner for his progeny for BE in 2011, not bad for an old boy! I met him at Twemlows last year and he was lovely, such an absolute gent. :) :) :)



My Jumbo chestnut mare is the sweetest, most forward-thinking horse I have ever owned. Never says no and not a nappy bone in her body :)
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Mildred said:
Yes one of the mares I'm thinking of is also an absolute cow! :)
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I used to work with Catherston horses. Didn't know any who had sweet itch but they were always 'interesting' horses! Never out and out difficult but were quite cute and could be tricky if you didnt keep on top of them and knew how to play 'dumb' if it suited!
 
I've had two by Mill Law, one was very spooky and a little bugger at home but fantastic at competitions. The other is currently unbacked but abit of a thug, bar being abit bulshy to handle I think hes going to be ok to back though.

I also have a horse whos grandsire is Voltaire. He has evented but wasn't quite brave enough XC (which i have heard others say about showjumping) he doesn't look at any filler showjumping though. I do dressage with him now and he has a fantastic temperament very workmanlike.
 
James6 said:
kerilli said:
My Jumbo chestnut mare is the sweetest, most forward-thinking horse I have ever owned. Never says no and not a nappy bone in her body :)
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Oh good, i've got an orange filly and she's an utter darling so far (only foal i've ever had who stays on the floor for a long cuddle and snooze on my lap when i walk into the field or stable, unbelievably laid-back.
Thanks for that, I'll keep that firmly in mind, to counter all the "Jumbos are SOOOO quirky" crap I get fed! ;) ;)

A friend really rated her Catherston horses, she said they were all real athletes, whereas the Welton horses she'd used previously were easier, but not natural athletes.
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foxy1 said:
Any views on Chellano Z progeny?

I have a foal with Cruising on the Dam's side and Chellano Z/ Ramiro on the Sire's.

He'd better blooming well jump!! :D
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He also has Ramiro/Alme bloodline combination, the same as the famous mare Ratina Z

Sorry to keep on!!
 
Anyone got any comments on brief encounter or doddington flyer? I've got a 2yo BE filly who has so far been a delight to deal with, a really lovely person and no quirks so far except she loves splashing about in water buckets which has made me and mum question her intelligence as it amuses her for hours!! Haha! and I have a 5yo by doddington flyer who I know nothing about, he has cruising on his dams side too and he is mega talented, very athletic but also VERY quirky and doesn't half have an atttitude on him! Ive seen a few advertised in Ireland with the same lines - cruising on the dam side and doddington flyer as the sire - and all have said 'talented but quirky'!!
 
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