FAO those who compete in BRC dressage to music. please read.

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I missed the update on this but following a letter in the latest rider magazine I have noted and confirmed that BRC are moving in line with BD to run their dressage to music in a 20x60m arena. I understand that for those that do BD this will make life easier meaning that they only require one floor plan to do both competitions. But I do feel quite strongly that BRC is increasingly not catering for its unaffiliated membership ie me and most of my club and that this is where I think its priority should be in that those affiliated have other championships etc.


I am all for increasing standards but as I dont need a long diagonal to perform a line of tempi changes
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I dont see how this is going to help and saw a huge variation of interesting floor plans last year at the areas.
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I did the dtm for the first time last year and thoroughly enjoyed it and was looking forwards to it this year already planning the music out. However I am now really worried that I will not be able to afford to do it. In order to practice I will have to hire out one of the local competition centres and ask them to put boards the right size out at a minimum of £30 a go, and I would certainly want to practice at least twice! meaning we are getting very close to the £100 mark pre diesel for getting one test ready (2 if I am really brave and attempt the elem!)

If sufficient people feel the same as me there is the possibility that we might be able to get this changed, particularly for the 0 BD points section.

If this applies to you or you are involved in riding club and have members that you think that it might effect negatively if they could contact me (I will PM my details if req) or contact head office directly to air their concerns I would be grateful.

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It is the CHAMPIONSHIP that will be run in a 20 x 60 - qualifiers can still be run in 20 x 40 arenas.

So your focus should be to your area committee to make sure that they put their qualifiers in the short arena. Then it is only those who qualify who will need to tweak their routines for the Championship.

Though it would have been sensible if BRC had made this comment at the foot of the letter concerned.
 
but those who qualifty arent going to want to change their routines so I cant see area doing that its just not logical.

Is the rule that says that the routine done at the championships must be the same as at the qualifier changing too then?
 
There have just been so many requests over the years to come in to line with BD & have the DTM in 20 x 60. It's a change that's been made in response to rider feedback.
I guesss it's one of those where it's going to be impossible to please everyone.
Normally BRC gets it in the neck for not mirroring the disciplines in every tiny way. On this occassion BRC has come in to line with BD & that's not right either !!
Ester is right though. Those of you who are concerned please let BRC head office know, & keep your area rep up to speed as well.
 
"Is the rule that says that the routine done at the championships must be the same as at the qualifier changing too then? "

Think that through - how can anyone other than the rider know that the routines are different?
 
Thanks Zeb, I do just think that as they have a section for those with 0 BD points that this section could at least still be in a 20x40 arena and that it is a response to BD rider feedback not the rest of us....... I just have ££ signs floating before my eyes atm which has made me grumpy!...... and I (maybe just me) dont want BRC mirroring the affiliated disciplines I am not affiliated I am below affiliated and hence do riding club stuff.


*wanders off wondering if she should just bloomin join BD and be done with it and if she has a big enough flat bit in the field and if she should just get over her hatred of 20x60 arenas cos its a long way round on a pony*
 
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"Is the rule that says that the routine done at the championships must be the same as at the qualifier changing too then? "

Think that through - how can anyone other than the rider know that the routines are different?

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The same music must be used

I think it's pointless to qualify under different criteria to that required for the championships - like qualifying over an 85cm jumping course & getting to a final & finding the course is 1m. No good if 85 is at the top of your comfort zone.

I'm also not sure that enciuraging people to try & exploit a rule that may be hard to enforce is the way forwards either
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Thanks Zeb, I do just think that as they have a section for those with 0 BD points that this section could at least still be in a 20x40 arena and that it is a response to BD rider feedback not the rest of us....... I just have ££ signs floating before my eyes atm which has made me grumpy!...... and I (maybe just me) dont want BRC mirroring the affiliated disciplines I am not affiliated I am below affiliated and hence do riding club stuff.

*wanders off wondering if she should just bloomin join BD and be done with it and if she has a big enough flat bit in the field and if she should just get over her hatred of 20x60 arenas cos its a long way round on a pony*

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I think that as you have to be a music member of BD to take part in BRC music (all to do with music liciencing as DTM is considered a public performance) most BRC members ARE taking part in affilated music comps, hence the groundswell of support for the change in arena size.

Also most people don't have even a 20 x 40 arena at home, & DO practice on a flat bit of field, so it's just a case of choosing a different set of dock plants really
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"Is the rule that says that the routine done at the championships must be the same as at the qualifier changing too then? "

Think that through - how can anyone other than the rider know that the routines are different?

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everyone if the area qual is run in a 20x40... and I have always been far too much of a goody tooshoes that follows all the rules to the letter
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. Eg, last year our area put 3 through, I would have been the 3rd but I was NQ, in which case there are 3 riders and their associates there who could all have watched eachothers tests.
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hypothetically.... granted they prob wouldnt have been paying that much attention.
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If you use the same music, and the length of time is the same, then surely its just a matter of adjusting your pattern. You must know where your changes are, so its shouldn't be too hard to adapt your current pattern to a larger arena.
 
I dont have an arena at home
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dock plants are excellent.

But given our recent glorious summer weather its nice to be able to do it in your friends/instructors arena too as sorting timings out on a wet field doesnt always work........ I did mine quite early last year as we are then growing the grass for hay ...... which also makes timings interesting.

*wanders to see if there are any aff BD musics near her to make it worth it*
 
The compulsory BRC music membership of BD is only £15. It means you can enter affiliated BD music competitions, & if you qualify you have the option of being able to upgrade to full BD affilaition & take up your qualifying place, so its quite a good deal really.
 
I was pleased they changed to long arena, then realised they 'd moved the championships to Aintree, Liverpool which is way too far for me to go, so I'm out anyway.
 
I had to wing it last year it was terrifying!........ we were going significantly faster than usual or the arena was very small! have done it since and it was fine so dont know what happened

yup Zebs I know, I think it might have gone up to £20 for this year..... I can totally see that side of the argument and can understand why they have done it but would just rather they hadnt done. I have never really had any interest in doing them at BD I am hoping to do some prelims but I dont think I would have him estbalished enough to do it at novice BD yet. I liked going to do the areas, it was worth the journey (once!) and was a lovely atmosphere and a great day with everyone supporting eachother...... it was a great example of what BRC should be.

if it remains 60x20 I will have to find out if there are any BD musics close to me that warrant me doing it as that is the only way I could justify it.
 
burtie yup, I will only be doing it NQ but will enjoy it all the same...... and I completely understand and think it is a good idea to move championships about...... just waiting for them to move the summers
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I will only be doing it NQ but will enjoy it all the same

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Our area aren't running a NQ, so it will be interesting to see if entries are down. Luckily I do BD of which there are plenty near me so I'll just do those instead!
 
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I was pleased they changed to long arena, then realised they 'd moved the championships to Aintree, Liverpool which is way too far for me to go, so I'm out anyway.

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Aintree is so easy to get to once you're on the M.way network though. Probably an easier drive thatn Addington from the SW & easily comparable in terms of time if not actual miles. BRC is a national organisation & the North was very poorly catered for in terms of Championship venues.
It's still further from the North of Scotland to Aintree than it is from the far West Country, either to Aintree or Lincoln !! The venue at Aintree is fantastic too - & it's hoped that the experience will be really special for those who do qualify & chose to go.
http://www.aintreeequestriancentre.co.uk/home/
 
well after a speedy email back from BD
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that scraps the doing BD music idea, nearest to me is hour and a half by car or 2 hours
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can't do that.
 
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Aintree is so easy to get to once you're on the M.way network though. Probably an easier drive thatn Addington from the SW & easily comparable in terms of time if not actual miles. BRC is a national organisation & the North was very poorly catered for in terms of Championship venues.


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Fair enough, I'm sure for others the new venue is better, but for me Addington is about 2 hours, Aintree 4.5hrs.
 
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Aintree is so easy to get to once you're on the M.way network though. Probably an easier drive thatn Addington from the SW & easily comparable in terms of time if not actual miles. BRC is a national organisation & the North was very poorly catered for in terms of Championship venues.


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Fair enough, I'm sure for others the new venue is better, but for me Addington is about 2 hours, Aintree 4.5hrs.

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I do understand - When the Nat Champs moved from Malvern to Lincoln it pretty much doubled our journey times too
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While I agree for a lot of people who have a 40 m arena at home it makes things slightly more difficult - me included - I think it is an excellent move in saving the amount of time and effort that goes in to doing 2 seperate musics and floor plans for the different size arenas. It is not generally possible to fit a good floor plan to the same music in different size arenas.Plus the time allowed is different anyway. You have to join BD music membership so why not compete BD music classes as well. You will be surprised how well you will do in the novice restricted if you've done well at RC. I've qualified for the BD regionals!
 
Because there are no BD music classes within 2 hours of my location
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I honestly wouldnt mind so much if there were some locally as I would be happy to do it more but I cant warrant 4 hours of fuel for what is in effect a normal class.

eta I dont actually know why BD are long arena at the lower levels as it does just complicate matters!
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i'm totally pissed off with the move to Aintree - I for one now dont give a stuff what size arena the qualifiers are held in as I wont be doing them. I went to Addington twice with my old horse and was looking forwards to doing the same with my new one. I have always done the local qualifier and supported my riding club, but I wont be bothering now. Aintree is hours and hours away - I am not travelling my horse that far, esp not in a trailer. I dont mind them moving champs around if they do it every year, but a permanent move to Aintree just means I'll stick to BD from now on.

Oh, and irrelevant now but I dont have a 20x60m arena to practice in. I just work out my plan on paper and adlib it on the day. Then once I know what roughly works I make minor tweaks at following competitions. So, for me it would make it easier to have it in the 20x60m as I wouldn't need to tweak the routine then for the short arena and it's easier to make the floorplan interesting in the long arena. I wouldn't like it if they had the qualifier in the short arena and the champs in the long one though as then wouldn't have a chance to practice it in the short arena - it never runs the same at a show as it does in the runthrough at home.
 
I think its a shame that the UK is so long really, it is 2 hours to me to the areas but thats fine as a one off. I have never sent anyone qualifying for the summers, and the winters is much harder to qualify for because its local to us so everyone gives it a go... I am a bit annoyed at going NQ last year as I might have managed addington but I didnt think for a minute I would be in a qualifying position.

Not had the chance to tweak mine as the only times I have managed to do it was at the areas, we had one unaff comp near me that I missed but apart from that noone runs them.
 
Does the length of time allowed for the test change? I much prefer long-arena tests in general. But it wasn't simple to fit much more than the compulsory movements in, in a 20X40...pony has short legs...
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