Feed Testers (again)

Hmmm. I enquired about this feed and it is a Conditioning Feed, which mine doesn't need. But from the details I have heard, you get free feed, enough to feed your horse the recommended ration for a month.

For those of you moaning this is too much for feed, there are a few points to think about here:

!- Were you feeding the recommended ration of hard feed before? If so this probably works out the cost of feeding this feed anyway, when it comes out
2 - If you weren't feeding the recommended ration, MAYBE THATS WHY YOUR HORSES ARE THIN!!!!!
3 - If they aren't, and are just on a normal feed rather than a conditioning feed, why on earth are you on a conditioning trial? Ohhhhh yes,... to get free feed.

This must be costing whatever company is doing it, a fortune. I would doubt they are doing it for money.

I'd be interested to hear if it works, but that is the whole point of the trial - to find that out!!!
 
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This probably just applies to the people answering the post yesterday ref a feed trial... its a conditioning type feed... people were basically moaning about how much of it they hard to feed which seemed a little unfair as it is free anyway! Sorry to confuse!
 
What are you, a Winergy Rep?!!!

I'm willing to answer your questions

!- Were you feeding the recommended ration of hard feed before? If so this probably works out the cost of feeding this feed anyway, when it comes out
<font color="red">Not quite the recommended rations but not far off. And no, they will not equate to the same cost, my prior feeding will work out far cheaper </font>

2 - If you weren't feeding the recommended ration, MAYBE THATS WHY YOUR HORSES ARE THIN!!!!!
<font color="red"> Urm no, I class my horse on the winergy scale of 1-5 as 3 (average). He is a growing 4yo and it's a fine balance between feeding enough and not overdoing the hard feed </font>

3 - If they aren't, and are just on a normal feed rather than a conditioning feed, why on earth are you on a conditioning trial? Ohhhhh yes,... to get free feed.
<font color="red"> Well not every horse was selected so you have to put the ball in Winergy's court on this one to select the most appropriate trial candidates </font>

This must be costing whatever company is doing it, a fortune. I would doubt they are doing it for money.
<font color="red"> Are you serious, long term of course they are in it for the money, they are a business after all </font>

I'd be interested to hear if it works, but that is the whole point of the trial - to find that out!!!
<font color="red"> Of course it is, this trial is basically about public perception of the feed. They have already done all the scientific stuff previously. And with public perception comes day to day things like how much does it cost? does my horse like it? does it fit in with my routine?</font>

<font color="red"> So far I'm only a few days in. I like the feed in a lot of respects but I think the quantities to be fed, cost and time it takes the horse to eat such quantities will probably mean it will not be viable for me to continue with after the trial, however I might look at changing my horses previous feeding to incorporate some of winergys feeding strategy at a reduced cost to myself </font>
 
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What are you, a Winergy Rep?!!!

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If I was a Winergy Rep, Why would I have asked such "stupid" questions! I do feed Winergy myself, though not the conditioning trial feed, and it's been fabulous, such a change for the better in my horse, I was simply sticking up for the slating it had the other day. No personal dig to yourself.
 
I too was confused at how many testers thought they had too much feed
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Spillers do ask for your animals weight and condition score etc before accepting you on to the trial. As I understand it, all the scientific tests/results were proven long ago, this is more of a PR exercise - seems to be working rather well !
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I am on the trial - well two of our horses are
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I missed this yesterday, anyone know the link?
I am delighted to be on the trial.
The feed fits in with my feeding anyway. I have not fed Winergy but interested in changeing as it looks like good epsm food.
I don't have the money to try new things incase they don't work/not suitable but if this is i will be changeing.
I think you have to feed a lot as it is fibre based. I don't know the prices though. When i picked up the bags i was shocked at the quantity and the feed man said 'that will keep you going for a few months'
Cereal based feeds are fed at greatly reduced quantities because they are that 'cereals'.
Horses are trickle feeders and this fits in. I feed over three meals, what do others do?
I have been doing a lot of research into American feeds - because of muscle disorders in working/competition horses and i think these feeds fit in well with the research i have done.
I am realy excited about it.
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My car smelt nice instead of smelling of dead rats from daughters feet
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I think that's a bit harsh.

I have a 4 yo Haflinger, her breed are known to put weight on with fresh air but she's at that age where she could go either way and it's hard to get it right. We got her in Feb and before this she was only being fed barley when the owner wanted to catch her - before that she only had grass so she hasn't had the best start in life feed wise. She does now need to put on a bit weight and condition but as we're backing her doesn't need the 'fizz'. I was thinking of putting her on a conditioning feed when this trial came along.

Let's just get this straight: NOBODY IS COMPLAINING! About getting 'free' food or about how much to give to them. For a start you are not on the trial so have not seen the feed or the ingredients.

The reason the company are doing it is TO FIND OUT IF IT WORKS!! D'oh!!

Where do you get off accusing people of not looking after their horses? I don't know if you've noticed but lots of horses lose condition over the winter, lots of people have youngsters that they are bringing on. There is a massive market for conditioning feeds and that's not because hundreds of people et their horses get thin!!

Most importantly nobody asked for you opinion and IMO you are ust jealous you didn't get any of the 'free' food!!

You've really made me angry!
 
Ahhh sorry Florin I'll try and find the link in a bit.

Errrm.... No, not jealous... simply confused as to why people are complaining! And I'm not sure where I was accusing people, this is just very common that most people with underweight horses are feeding like half what they should be. I think you've taken it a little out of context
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Errrm.... No, not jealous... simply confused as to why people are complaining! And I'm not sure where I was accusing people, this is just very common that most people with underweight horses are feeding like half what they should be. I think you've taken it a little out of context
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WTF!!! Sounds like accusing to me, if you know people who's horses are thin because they've not fed them then you really should say something. If this is 'common' then I am shocked. I don't think anyone was moaning. I commented on the fact that my pony will probably get bored. I also stated the FACT that not many people buy spillers or wynergy from my feed merchant because of the price.

Are you going to jump on the backs of anyone who decides to give their horse a conditioning feed from now on? Just wanted to know for reference.
 
No, not jumping on anyones backs. But I am now laughing in a puzzled fashion at how you are reacting. Noone asked for my opinion, but equally noone asked you to read any reply to this post sweetie.
 
I think you'll find the thread you are referring to was asking the people chosen for the feed trial for their opinion on the feed. Seeing as how you are not on the trial and haven't seen the feed then no, no-one asked for your opinion.

I am offended by the way you just willy nilly accuse people of not looking after their horses properly because they have considered a conditioning feed!! I assume your horses are perfect?
 
How on earth was I accusing anyone of that? If you are offended by my post, I dread to think of how you would react if anyone said anything really bad!

And as it happens, I do feed Winergy, just not the conditioning feed, and since then the improvement has been amazing.

So, if noone has asked my opinion, why bother provoking more answers from me?
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http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3251308/an/0/page/2#3251308

here we go sorry! Not Ben Maher this time!
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Found it thankyou.
I picked up mine yesterday so was busy whilst it was being discussed.
I think there will be a fair few differing comments. It's a type of feed i have been praying for so will have differing views but very interested in everyones.
I have 100's of questions to ask Winergy
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Horses do have differing needs so i don't think everyone will be 100% happy.
I was jumping for joy when i read what was in it.
 
The comments started as it is a complete feed i dont htink some of us realised how much we do feed our horses.
Personally the amount that i have been told to feed is what i feed so no complaints there.
I presume then Merrymaker are one of these lucky people who's horse live in fresh air.

Even if it turns out not to be cost effective for me in the long term im sure our research will help horses further down the line, which IMHO can only help others not have underconditioned/underweight horses.
 
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I think the manufacturers would be very naive if they weren't expecting people to give their honest opinions on the forum - including the good AND bad points about the feed. The internet is a very useful tool for such companies to use for publicity, but they must remember that it is a double-edged sword and they must expect negative views as well, not just people raving how wonderful a product is.

Cost of feeding and the amounts fed ARE very important factors when assessing a conditioning feed. A lot of poor doers are skinny because they have a small appetite, therefore presenting them with huge buckets of feed may not be the best solution, and they will do better on something more concentrated.

However, I'm sure the feed will be good for some horses, especially those with special needs such as azoturia, etc., but for others there will be cheaper and/or more effective methods of feeding.
 
Dianche, I feed 3kg of Medium, great stuff it is! Definately a good bit of research though
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and as the Medium has been so good, the conditioning would definately be a route I'd go down should I need weight gain.

And yes I think the only problematic ones would be the very fussy ones who won't eat large amounts. My pony feels it is her duty to consume every thing in sight, but some aren't so lucky!
 
Well i have to say that i have been impressed that it hasnt over faced my girl. She is the queen of ill eat three polos only in case i get fat. So i am one of the unlucky ones that not only has a small appetite and also is fussy.
 
Crikey! I think everyone should calm down a little bit! I feed winergy too and also think its the best think since sliced bread. it does take them longer to eat but if you read the info on their website it says that it is designed to take longer so they chew for longer, produce more saliva and improve their digestive health.

if you'vre got one like mine who's on livery and her haynet doesn't always last as long as i'd like or even one like my firend who has limited turn out - getting them chewing and spending longer eating is only a bonus.

obviously like TGM says, not all feeds suit all horses which i guess is why there are so many but i say good on winergy for making this such a public trial and letting people share good and bad stories, like Dianchi says for the good of lots of horses in the long run.

can we all be nice agian now? ha ha x
 
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The Medium smells and looks lovely, I'd be dead chuffed if I was a horse and got a bowl full!

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Wasted most of it.
 
Picked up my 6 bags yesterday, started introducing it into her feed gradually and so far so good, it smells delicious and fingers crossed it will do what it claims to do! I've got to feed 3kg a day to my 15hh golden oldie x
 
still waiting for mine to arrive.

Acording to winergy it should be with me tomorrow

Due to that can comment neither way, but the OP comment about thin horses has hurt. My horses are carrying less weight than they should due to other reasons ... I sure do not starve my horses
 
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still waiting for mine to arrive.

Acording to winergy it should be with me tomorrow

Due to that can comment neither way, but the OP comment about thin horses has hurt. My horses are carrying less weight than they should due to other reasons ... I sure do not starve my horses

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I'm glad someone else took offence at that, the OP couldn't seem to understand why I was angry.
 
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