FEI 2015 rule changes on bits in eventing dressage

Do they provide any reasoning behind the changes, bizarre that Mullen mouths are not allowed, it would be good to understand the rationale?
 
They are also banning the wearing of boots and chaps (certainly if you are a civilian) but depending on dress code code you could wear them as part of uniform:confused3:
 
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I'm gutted that hanging cheeks are gone, great bits.

Think they should focus on more blatant welfare issues like a horrendously over tightened noseband at WEG. Don't know how the picture I saw on FB got passed an FEI steward at WEG (cannot post as its a pro photo), to be honest I didn't know you could get a noseband that tight. Talk about unnecessary force.

I do have to wonder why people make up new rules when they cannot enforce the current ones fairly.
 
only_me said:
I thought it was just hanging cheeks and myler style mouthpieces not allowed anymore
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You're kidding? I have only ever used a hanging cheek french link and a dressage-legal Myler (the basic one with a roller in the centre and no hooks). So I'm now not allowed either?! I don't have any other bits so what am I allowed to use? A regular French link?
 
MagicMelon said:
You're kidding? I have only ever used a hanging cheek french link and a dressage-legal Myler (the basic one with a roller in the centre and no hooks). So I'm now not allowed either?! I don't have any other bits so what am I allowed to use? A regular French link?
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This is the link..marked up version is the easiest to read....

http://www.fei.org/fei/regulations/eventing
 
For another bizarre rule, take a look at 544.1.1 which makes no sense at all.

Daisy Berkeley is the new athlete representative on the Eventing Committee. If anyone knows her, perhaps she might be able to explain why the bit rules were changed.
 
vineyridge said:
For another bizarre rule, take a look at 544.1.1 which makes no sense at all.

Daisy Berkeley is the new athlete representative on the Eventing Committee. If anyone knows her, perhaps she might be able to explain why the bit rules were changed.
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Of course it makes sense they had originally said they were going to use the half mark system ala Dressage but changed there mind later . I have a suspicion why !
 
vineyridge said:
For another bizarre rule, take a look at 544.1.1 which makes no sense at all.
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Wow, thanks for pointing that out, very confusing.

"Judges will award good marks from zero to ten (10) including half marks for each numbered movement and for each of the collective marks. Only whole marks to be used for Dressage Test of Eventing."

I assume that means for individual movements and collectives half marks will be used but the overall score will be rounded to a whole number. Anyone interpret it differently?
 
Blythwind said:
Has anyone got an update on BE's position yet?
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They haven't responded to queries on their forum yet. They've been asked directly about the bit changes and when their rule book for 2015 is being released. Just need to wait patiently I guess... My gut feeling is this year it won't change for BE but 2016 it might- fingers crossed!
 
Sauchentree_lady said:
Wow, thanks for pointing that out, very confusing.

"Judges will award good marks from zero to ten (10) including half marks for each numbered movement and for each of the collective marks. Only whole marks to be used for Dressage Test of Eventing."

I assume that means for individual movements and collectives half marks will be used but the overall score will be rounded to a whole number. Anyone interpret it differently?
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I think you have missed out the bit underneath in the mark up version which implies half marks are not being used . The statement from the 1st jan 2015 half marks will be used has a line through it. That implies to me with that and the quote above of yours that marking will stay as it is. The full stop in your quote is the one that makes that clear to me.
Logic says rule changes will be this year as the rule book I believe was held back due to these changes only being ratified in December by FEI they were expected
 
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popsdosh said:
I think you have missed out the bit underneath in the mark up version which implies half marks are not being used . The statement from the 1st jan 2015 half marks will be used has a line through it. That implies to me with that and the quote above of yours that marking will stay as it is. The full stop in your quote is the one that makes that clear to me.
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You could be right Popsdosh but I still think it means that half marks will be used. To me it looks like the scored out part was superseded by the new text in red in the marked up version (probably because of the poor grammar in the scored out part - bad translation perhaps?). But who knows!
It is very badly written, in my mind rules should be clear and not left as open to interpretation as this.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for The 2015 BE rule book!
 
Half marks are going to be used. There is going to be a senior judges seminar at the end of January so hopefully all these queries will be sorted then if not before.
 
A friend in Germany says that the new FEI rules look almost exactly the same now as the German national eventing dressage rules. It looks like they have simply lifted them from there and imported them into the FEI book! Why not go for rules from the UK or USA etc.? Why are the German rules so special?
 
i noticed that, also the German rules also seem to take their photos and diagrams from Sprenger bits! useful for them i guess if these are the ones which are being used as the benchmark but not so good if you're wanting to use other brands!
 
Sauchentree_lady said:
So... Apparently the FEI have changed their minds and straight bars and hanging cheeks are now allowed in eventing dressage. Phew!
A "bit" confusing how and why this all came about but I'm sure there's going to be more than a few happy people following this thread ;)

https://www.fei.org/fei/regulations/eventing
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Wow! that is a big change, though what is a wavy plastic bit? is that a mullen mouth?
 
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