Fibregest? Anyone use it? Is it any good?

[runaway]

As the title asks?

I feed my horse on Equilibra and wondered what the Fibregest is like. Can anyone give me their thoughts / experience please?

 

[trainwithbrain]

Fibregest no starch blue bag claims to have <1% starch which looks good but doesn’t say anything about sugar. After investigating it has got cane sugar molasses .which makes sugar content 5%. Maybe not so good choice if your horse cannot tolerate molasses

 

[Leo Walker]

this is an 11 year old thread, so I imagine an answer is no longer required!

 

[milliepops]

this is an 11 year old thread, so I imagine an answer is no longer required!

could be a record!

 

[trainwithbrain]

could be a record!

May not be required for original person asked questions but plenty other people who come and search... apologies

 

[ihatework]

Well if it helps I’ve used Fibregest on 2 different horses.
The original on a big young working horse & the no starch version on an older Tb with progressing Cushings struggling to maintain weight. The latter was a godsend. The former was fine but nothing revolutionary

 

[dogatemysalad]

Never heard of this feed but interested because it contains cobra and seaweed which gives my horses a beautiful shiny coat. Cobra also helped to stop my oldie from being stiff after being stabled all night.

 

[ihatework]

Never heard of this feed but interested because it contains cobra and seaweed which gives my horses a beautiful shiny coat. Cobra also helped to stop my oldie from being stiff after being stabled all night.

The no starch is, IMO, a superb feed. Small pellets and you can feed it dry, damp, soaked to suit. It’s not quite as pungent as pure copra and doesn’t have that gritty texture. I’m not particularly fussed about the seaweed addition but I think hemp seed is under utilised and also has potential for mobility benefits a little similar to flax/linseed.

 

[trainwithbrain]

Help me choose one. Allan and page fast fibre, pink Mash or fibregest no starch please. Will be feeding with chop, linseed oil and minerals like pink powder if required. Thanks

 

[ihatework]

I’d go pink mash or fibregest
The former got an easy doer, the latter for a poor doer.
I wouldn’t bother with linseed oil as both have a sufficient good oil content.
Both would probably need some mineral supplementation

 

[trainwithbrain]

I’d go pink mash or fibregest
The former got an easy doer, the latter for a poor doer.
I wouldn’t bother with linseed oil as both have a sufficient good oil content.
Both would probably need some mineral supplementation

Thank you. I would give it a try. Anything with excessive sugar and starch sends my boy to moon.

 

[Leo Walker]

Pink mash contains linseed and was one of the only things that didn't send my old horse loopy. But it is soya based and some horses can be very adversely affected by soya, so introduce it carefully.

 

[trainwithbrain]

Pink mash contains linseed and was one of the only things that didn't send my old horse loopy. But it is soya based and some horses can be very adversely affected by soya, so introduce it carefully.

Is there anything in market which doesn’t send horse loopy or affect adversely?

 

[trainwithbrain]

What you guys think about this?

https://horseandponydirect.com/prod...lw6ZF8AwYaAvzAEALw_wcB&variant=23067636269104

 

[trainwithbrain]

Maybe not good as got 14% starch and 5% sugar😩😩

 

[milliepops]

You only feed a cup full of those balancers though so the amount the horse is consuming is very little.

 

[ihatework]

Maybe not good as got 14% starch and 5% sugar😩😩

Well it’s a completely different product so not a like for like.

The fibregest/pink mash are fibre/oil bucket feeds that can be given in a reasonable quantity. The other you just linked is a balancer pellet given by the mug.

If you were to compare actual starch and sugar quantities, a balancer would probably be less - unless you really were giving a tiny token amount of the others

 

[trainwithbrain]

Makes sense.

Well it’s a completely different product so not a like for like.

The fibregest/pink mash are fibre/oil bucket feeds that can be given in a reasonable quantity. The other you just linked is a balancer pellet given by the mug.

If you were to compare actual starch and sugar quantities, a balancer would probably be less - unless you really were giving a tiny token amount of the others

Makes sense.ypu right with that. Thanks

 

[Leo Walker]

Pink mash never bothered mine and he was a complete nightmare. I've never known anyone elses horses be affected either. Its husks not the oil. But it is something to be aware of. Soya oil sends lots of horses off their rockers.

What are you trying to feed for? Condition? maintenance? to hide supplements? and to what sort of horse?

 

[trainwithbrain]

To keep c

Pink mash never bothered mine and he was a complete nightmare. I've never known anyone elses horses be affected either. Its husks not the oil. But it is something to be aware of. Soya oil sends lots of horses off their rockers.

What are you trying to feed for? Condition? maintenance? to hide supplements? and to what sort of horse?

To keep and maintain condition.
He’s currently on veteran vitality and high grade spoon of mag ox. He just spook at anything no matter what work you put on him. Don’t get me wrong he’s a very loving horse it’s just his anxiety and stress when he doesn’t think before acting.

He’s Hanoverian 17.3hh

 

[Julia0803]

We use fibergest no starch on a very poor doer 17.1 warmblood. I spent ages searching here and looking at manufacturers websites etc. He came looking like a rescue case in April, now just looks a little lean.

We went with the fibergest as it packed a punch calorie wise with a small footprint. Ginormahorse is a pain in the bum fussy, altho his eating is more normal than when he came (when he refused everything but agrobs). He's also a fidget bum who won't eat big dinners and I can't feed more than twice per day. He lives out as he doesn't like being stabled and won't stand on the yard and eat large amounts, he'll do 1-2 sections of hay before getting ants in his pants and wanting to go back out.

We tried various things but for calorie dense so not huge big bowls, what I found best was fibergest no starch, graven horse full fat soya (won't suit every horse but thankfully doesn't bother him and packs the same calories as equijewel but at £17 ish per bag rather than £44), and micronised linseed.

It might be worth looking at feeding sugar beet and copra as that would be cheaper and are the main components of the no starch. However, you've guessed it, Ginormahorse thought that was unacceptable, but happily eats the no starch. Equally because you can feed it dry/dampened it doesn't swell so much, unlike soaked sugar beet so it doesn't look so overwhelming. Whereas the same dry weight of beet made up much bigger quantities.

 

[trainwithbrain]

We use fibergest no starch on a very poor doer 17.1 warmblood. I spent ages searching here and looking at manufacturers websites etc. He came looking like a rescue case in April, now just looks a little lean.

We went with the fibergest as it packed a punch calorie wise with a small footprint. Ginormahorse is a pain in the bum fussy, altho his eating is more normal than when he came (when he refused everything but agrobs). He's also a fidget bum who won't eat big dinners and I can't feed more than twice per day. He lives out as he doesn't like being stabled and won't stand on the yard and eat large amounts, he'll do 1-2 sections of hay before getting ants in his pants and wanting to go back out.

We tried various things but for calorie dense so not huge big bowls, what I found best was fibergest no starch, graven horse full fat soya (won't suit every horse but thankfully doesn't bother him and packs the same calories as equijewel but at £17 ish per bag rather than £44), and micronised linseed.

It might be worth looking at feeding sugar beet and copra as that would be cheaper and are the main components of the no starch. However, you've guessed it, Ginormahorse thought that was unacceptable, but happily eats the no starch. Equally because you can feed it dry/dampened it doesn't swell so much, unlike soaked sugar beet so it doesn't look so overwhelming. Whereas the same dry weight of beet made up much bigger quantities.

Thanks for detailed advice

 

[Leo Walker]

I'd feed a base feed like pink mash and add something nutritionally dense for extra calories. If he will eat Copra then great but quite a few wont. Its worth trying though. If not I'd add a rice bran oil pellet. Small, palatable and dont need feeding in huge amounts and they put weight on quickly and easily

 

[_Annie_]

I feed it, it's brilliant ~ wish i'd know about it sooner, this is the first winter I'm not worried re condition!

 

[trainwithbrain]

I'd feed a base feed like pink mash and add something nutritionally dense for extra calories. If he will eat Copra then great but quite a few wont. Its worth trying though. If not I'd add a rice bran oil pellet. Small, palatable and dont need feeding in huge amounts and they put weight on quickly and easily

I’m thinking to give this a go and see how he gets on with it

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Thank you. I would give it a try. Anything with excessive sugar and starch sends my boy to moon.

Then I would avoid the PinkPowder - it sent both of ours loopy, even the usually super laid back Draft mare, and affected their feet.

 

[trainwithbrain]

Then I would avoid the PinkPowder - it sent both of ours loopy, even the usually super laid back Draft mare, and affected their feet.

Then I would avoid the PinkPowder - it sent both of ours loopy, even the usually super laid back Draft mare, and affected their feet.

Think i will keep it simple. A&P fast fibre with top chop zero and add mineral/vits supplement. Hope this would help. Thanks for heads up

 

[Julia0803]

Both of those feeds are designed for good doers. If you look at the DE/kg I think they’ll be around 8ish.

Which probably isn’t much use to you if you have a big horse needing condition?

As a comparison the fibergest is 13.5DE/kg

 

[trainwithbrain]

Both of those feeds are designed for good doers. If you look at the DE/kg I think they’ll be around 8ish.

Which probably isn’t much use to you if you have a big horse needing condition?

As a comparison the fibergest is 13.5DE/kg

Thanks Julia

 

[Leo Walker]

fast fibre and top chop zero are the last things you want to be feeding with a good doer, its the exact opposite of what you said you wanted.

The reason I suggested the pink mash is because its got linseed in it already. if you pick another base feed such as fast fibre then add linseed to it. Oil is the best way to add calories to a horse, especially one that hots up with sugar and starch.