Find me a pony please HHOers...

milliepops said:
I think this is a great way of looking at it and a very valid approach. While it's always really really shite to have a soft tissue injury, the boring rest and rehab that has to be done day after day when you had so many much more fun plans... I have actually found mine come back better than they were before because somehow the boring rehab work makes me much more exacting about correctness and so when they are back to full fitness you actually end up with a better horse than you had before ;)

This winter I have done so so much on straightness and quickness to my aids, even in walk you can get a lot achieved if you get in the right frame of mind.
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I guess my problem will be how much work on correctness will I be doing versus how much work getting boggle to keep all four feet on the ground. This is what our plan looks like. I think the time the walking is up to 40 mins it’s actually likely he will be under saddle to do it if he’s best behaved then.


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I think until you get one longer walk I'd def be concentrating on sanity rather than correctness ;) but yes I agree by the time you get a longer walk then it makes sense to hop on board and see what you can do :)
 
SpringArising said:
As a side note - jeez! The price of Connies from Ireland has shot up. I remember looking a few years back and there were pages and pages of good types for 500e.

Even the scraggy unbagged yearlings are 1000+ now.
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At the sales last weekend the plain slightly rubbish ones under saddle were easily making 4,000 euros.

I contacted Boggles seller and he said he wouldn’t leave the field for less than 5/6000 euros now with his breeding, regardless of looking like a rescue case. I paid 2.7k or something along those lines for him.
 
Right guys, vet and I have now spoken via phone instead of text.
So, the 3 month plan is as it is. The further 3 months in a small paddock with an hours walking a day is really with the view to then bring him back into work. Vet said if not intending to bring back after 6 months, might as well just rest in small paddock.

He absolutely agrees that my initial thoughts were right and that with an injury like this of which there is so little knowledge and case studies on (two further specialists consulted), it’s a bit of a stab in the dark and that more time off can only be a good thing. He said I very much have two options and certainly there is no judgement for bringing him back into work after six months if the scans were good, but that it would be frustrating if the issue then re appeared and we hadn’t just given that extra time of let down.

With that in mind, I think I’m going to follow my gut which is rarely wrong and found this diagnosis in the first place, and turn him away once he’s been through the 6 months of “control”.

So pony hunt is, I guess, back on!
 
Michen said:
I’m exhausted. Feel like I’ve been on a bloody rollercoaster for the last few days and hours!
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I am sure.

To be fair, if it were me I would spend a bit more then 4K on one now, so you can get out competing BE this summer (which I don't think Flash would do). But then, I am a lot older than you so maybe you would like the journey more even if it is a long one (which I guess I once did). Having said that, I now realise that you only have so many BE seasons before getting creaky.

Decisions, decisions!
 
Red-1 said:
I am sure.

To be fair, if it were me I would spend a bit more then 4K on one now, so you can get out competing BE this summer (which I don't think Flash would do). But then, I am a lot older than you so maybe you would like the journey more even if it is a long one (which I guess I once did). Having said that, I now realise that you only have so many BE seasons before getting creaky.

Decisions, decisions!
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Indeed! I’m not fussed about eventing this summer at all to be honest. I’d like to send someone to go and see Flash, I thought I saw a recommendation for an agent on the thread but can’t find the post now :(
 
Michen said:
Indeed! I’m not fussed about eventing this summer at all to be honest. I’d like to send someone to go and see Flash, I thought I saw a recommendation for an agent on the thread but can’t find the post now :(
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Someone mentioned that HayleyUK recently used an agent to buy from Ireland
 
2 connies due to go through York sales tomorrow sorry it was today so not much use unless someone near you picked them up
 
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If it makes you feel any better about the situation I think you are right turning him away! I turned my pony away who had a suspensory injury and doesn’t seem as highly strung as boggle, as his head had become completely fried from the box rest and actually just needed some time being a horse for a while. Good luck with him, hand walking is the worst!
 
RHM said:
If it makes you feel any better about the situation I think you are right turning him away! I turned my pony away who had a suspensory injury and doesn’t seem as highly strung as boggle, as his head had become completely fried from the box rest and actually just needed some time being a horse for a while. Good luck with him, hand walking is the worst!
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Thank you! I think so too. If I didn’t and then he went lame I would be wondering what if I had just given him more time. If he comes back in a year and doesn’t come back into work and remain sound I’ll know I did pretty much everything I could in terms of rest. If not sound after a year then unlikely to ever be sound!
 
Evie91 said:
I’m addicted to this thread - i’m rooting for Flash Gordon! Purely because he looks sweet, has a great name and would love to follow his transformation. I’d be interested to see if he blossoms the way Boggle has. All of the wrong reasons to buy a horse but I do love a good underdog story!
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I’m rooting for him too :p will see what the seller sends me video wise and results of HWSD test. Plus a vetting if we get that far.
 
I think more time off is always best. Mine had a year off after severely tearing his hamstring, could have brought him back into work after 8 months as he was fully sound. However he’d only just been just backed when he did the injury and the 8 month period came as we were well into winter so he had the extra time until spring and it did him the world of good. We have no issue with that leg now (touch wood), more time can only be a good thing in my opinion :D

So what are you open to, unbacked or rather something just green? Are you set on a connie?
 
Are you quite set on a proper Connie with good breeding, from a selling-on point of view? They are getting so expensive now, even the rough diamonds, my mum bought a well bred sporty baby Connemara last year to bring on to event, just arrived from Ireland and she had done absolutely nothing (although very pretty) and was 5K.

If purebred Connemara not essential what about either of these?

https://www.horsemart.co.uk/15-1hh-ish-mare/Horses/594053#

https://www.horsemart.co.uk/stunning-dark-bay-mare-/Horses/596077#
 
Amymay said:
What is a HWSD test? ??‍♀️
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https://www.animalgenetics.eu/Equine/equine-genetic-disease/HWSD.html

Quoted from the above link.

"Description:
Hoof Wall Separation Disease or HWSD is a condition that has been identified in Connemara ponies and horses that have been crossed with Connemara ponies. HWSD is an autosomal recessive genetic disorder that affects the coronary band causing cracks to form. All four feet will be affected by the disease. Damage can be seen in affected ponies as young 2-3 weeks of age. In rare cases some affected ponies develop less severe form of the disease. This is due to the fact that the mutation is not fully penetrant. In very few case the disease can be managed but in other case the ponies must be euthanized. Studies estimate that in the general population the percent of horses carrying a single copy of the disorder is around 15%.

Unfortunately, there is no cure of HWSD. As the condition worsens, the foal will begin to develop severe infections, as well as suffer from increasing pain and discomfort.


HWSD is a recessive trait, meaning a foal can only be affected if the foal inherits the disease from both parents. Parents that are carriers do not have any symptoms associated with HWSD. However, they will pass on a copy of the defective gene to their offspring 50% of the time. If breeding two carriers the foal has a 25% chance of being affected and a 50% chance of being a carrier."
 
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