Find me a pony please HHOers...

CorriegarthJ said:
can I just say, I absolutely love the way you talk to your horse! At first I thought you were talking to another person ?
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Sadly not me in that video - how I'd love to have that hacking available. I do babble to mine though. :) I don't know if the breed brings it out of people or if the type attracted to the breed are babblers anyway! :D

YBCM - sadly the US style 'halter scene' has given the breed a negative stereotype with people that haven't had much to do with the breed. Of course there are tricky ones like with all breeds. So, yes, you can get a lot of horse for your money. There will always be people who want good, safe, proven ridden animals though.
 
Meowy Catkin said:
Sadly not me in that video - how I'd love to have that hacking available. I do babble to mine though. :) I don't know if the breed brings it out of people or if the type attracted to the breed are babblers anyway! :D

YBCM - sadly the US style 'halter scene' has given the breed a negative stereotype with people that haven't had much to do with the breed. Of course there are tricky ones like with all breeds. So, yes, you can get a lot of horse for your money. There will always be people who want good, safe, proven ridden animals though.
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I am probably unfairly stereotyping but I never see an Arab at a ODE (though I’m sure there are some!) or out hunting etc so assumed there was a reason for that!
 
I actually think there just aren't that many pure breds about these days which is more why you don't see them. We had a loan arab before we got Frank and he was the most lovely chap, never done much but happy to do anything.
 
Apart from the question marks over his soundness and conformation I think it would be a bad idea to buy Flash to bring on at the same time as rehabbing Boggle. Rehabbing can be difficult and stressful and I personally would want to make that my priority. Even if he is very cheap you will have to put in a lot of time and effort in re-starting him and after watching all the videos I would definitely have to see him in person to decide whether or not I could work with his attitude. There is something I like about him though, but all things considered I think he’s too much of a gamble in your current circumstances. Best of luck with Boggle - really hope he comes right.
 
Upthecreek said:
Apart from the question marks over his soundness and conformation I think it would be a bad idea to buy Flash to bring on at the same time as rehabbing Boggle. Rehabbing can be difficult and stressful and I personally would want to make that my priority. Even if he is very cheap you will have to put in a lot of time and effort in re-starting him and after watching all the videos I would definitely have to see him in person to decide whether or not I could work with his attitude. There is something I like about him though, but all things considered I think he’s too much of a gamble in your current circumstances. Best of luck with Boggle - really hope he comes right.
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Thanks! I have a plan for boggle, he’s going to be with me for three months then go to a rest yard for the three months small pen turnout where he will also then he turned away after. So only 12 weeks of rehabbing for me really.
 
My friend has an arab who's fabulous, she's had a lot of success at riding club show jumping and eventing getting through to the championships a number of times, done a couple of be 90s on him, done team chasing and hunting. The only other arab I know is also lovely, really looks after his quite green owner. I agree you just don't see many purebreds around but I don't think that's because they can't do it.
 
Still can’t believe what utter rubbish I’m seeing for sale at crazy prices. I think Boggle would actually easily sell for 10k (injury aside!) if he was to be marketed.

It’s quite depressing because I got so lucky with him and he’s going to be a very hard act to follow :(
 
Michen said:
Still can’t believe what utter rubbish I’m seeing for sale at crazy prices. I think Boggle would actually easily sell for 10k (injury aside!) if he was to be marketed.

It’s quite depressing because I got so lucky with him and he’s going to be a very hard act to follow :(
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I’ve thought this with Rosie. Arthritis aside she’ll jump a metre sensible, is forward but with brakes, look pretty, hacks out sensibly, can take her anywhere and she’s the same and could manage a novice dressage test! Seen quirky horses who have done less than that on the market for £8K!
 
Michen said:
I am probably unfairly stereotyping but I never see an Arab at a ODE (though I’m sure there are some!) or out hunting etc so assumed there was a reason for that!
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This little stallion (he's 14.2 IIRC) was a show horse and the video shows his first XC schooling session. He's very willing and i like that fact that they have the other horse there to give him a positive experience.


This pair used to be on this forum. The funny intro by the XC commentator is hilarious. People who are better with the search function might find some old posts (the horse is called tiger) but IIRC they did everything showing, side saddle, hunter trails, eventing etc... A proper all rounder.


There was another one I remember, a chestnut called Gus but I can't find him using the search function. He was by a halter bred stallion (possibly Master Design GA) and he evented.

Oh and Marcus Aurelius (again a member on here maybe as Avonbrook?) went to HOYS as a ridden stallion but also competed in other disciplines.

http://www.avonbrookstud.co.uk/stallions.html

Edit - correcting autocorrect! LOL. :)
 
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Red-1 said:
The other videos, as I said, I did not 'like' the movement, but having visited the yard and ridden a similarly produced one, I would have gone and had a look as he does look a sweet type if you were to put the work in. The one I looked at was sound, no doubt in my mind. For under 4K, it would have been worth the trip based on my previous viewing.

The trotting up the driveway video was a no no. He is not level in his steps behind in my opinion, and the energy does not come forwards as it should. The energy thing itself is not the red flag on one so green, it is the uneven steps and drop on one side.

Part of me wants you to go get him still and prove us all wrong, as I would not have bought Boggle either and he has turned out fab for you. When you posted the lame lungeing videos a few years ago I thought it was all over for him, especially combined with the naughty behaviour. I doubted you, I confess, as much as the horse, as you had issues before which were not resolved (bear in mind I was only going on history as I have never met you or spoken with you either). But, you proved me wrong and took the bull by the horns and got him sorted. You gave him treatment and time when he needed it, sourced schooling when you needed help, arranged a sharer - I take my hat off to you. The latest posts, Boggle has been a credit to you.

But, you asked what people think, and the final video makes me say a resounding no. The last one did not just look unbalanced to me. It is not an exact science, the horse may well be sound and easy. But, based on the latter videos he would not interest me enough to travel, let alone buy off the internet.

This would be whatever the next videos show. I would not buy off a video ever, not just for this horse. For me, I need to like the feel of the horse. Also, on the topic of buying off a video in general, buying off a historical video, you won't know if the horse has had a touch of Bute, or 10 other videos taken, that were not successful before the wonderful video that is sent. Videos are OK to screen horses that you would then like to view, ride in person, and then vet within a day or two. If a horse is worth buying unseen in your mind, then he is worth viewing IMO. But then I say this and you have had a fine adventure with Boggle.
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Hehe thank you! I didn’t know I had unresolved issues though ;) Or you mean Boggle and his travelling!

I guess with Boggle I had no choice. I did put him up for sale before he went lame and had plenty of enquiries but I never actually let anyone come and view him. I think deep down I knew I had something good and part of my dislike for him was unwarranted really, because I was grieving for Basil. I learned a lot from bringing him on, not even so much ridden wise just how to approach things, change direction and patience. My god the patience!

I’m really proud of him but if he was with someone else he’d probably be flying around BE novice by now, I don’t feel he lives up to his potential at all with me eventing wise. But he is the most solid all rounder in every way possible which is pretty cool. And he has it easy with me ;)

I got lucky with Boggle but I am acutely aware that I need to be realistic about my capabilities re bringing on a horse...
 
The 14.3 is very nice. There's very little wrong with him. I really like his back, hind end and shoulder. I imagine he'll make 15 when finished growing.

I don't like the 15h, big boxy shoulder, feet look like they're going flat in front + body is weak all over. Is there any point buying something unbroken anyway when the whole point is that you have something to ride while your one is off?
 
SpringArising said:
The 14.3 is very nice. There's very little wrong with him. I really like his back, hind end and shoulder. I imagine he'll make 15 when finished growing.

I don't like the 15h, big boxy shoulder, feet look like they're going flat in front + body is weak all over. Is there any point buying something unbroken anyway when the whole point is that you have something to ride while your one is off?
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Yes he trots up really nicely as well in a video. I do like him- he’s the only one that’s made me re watch a few times (bar flash)
 
ester said:
I actually think there just aren't that many pure breds about these days which is more why you don't see them. .
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I agree, I rode some Crabbets for several years which were lovely all rounders, pretty nice solid horses with a good attitude. I did some PC eventing with one. But you just don't tend to see them around.
 
Meowy Catkin said:
I have to agree, the dark grey (in post 220) is the one that catches my eye from the photos available to me.
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Yes I’m quite taken with him. I’ve got a couple of videos from the ad but not sure how to get them on here.

Just 4 though. What’s the general consensus with a 4 year old, would he need turning away at some point?
 
Video of the grey (with permission from dealer)


I really like him!!!

He’s too small really but if the rider is 6 foot it looks like he takes up the leg quite well? I’m 5 foot 7.

Thoughts guys?
 
I always understood that often people lightly backed at three, turned away, then brought back into work at four and then built up from there.

As long as you didn't overface him either physically or mentally, I think that most people wouldn't expect a four year old to need turning away.
 
The dark grey is nice. Depends how he’s been started and how he reacts when you start asking a little bit more of him as to whether he would benefit from turning away. Is he close enough to you to go take a look?
 
I personally think those hinds a a little straight for my liking, though after a horse with PSD I am a bit OCD about that. Apart from that he looks absolutely lovely!!
 
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