Find me a pony please HHOers...

ycbm said:
The point I was making, exactly. I wondered if Michen had planned for the possibility of having two horses which both require remedial work at the same time.

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Well it’s not really something you plan for, if that happens it would be really irritating but would cross that bridge when it comes to it!

Boggle can come back whenever, if he had a bit longer off because I was not ready to bring him back in then that’s not going to be a bad thing for him.
 
Michen said:
Well it’s not really something you plan for, if that happens it would be really irritating but would cross that bridge when it comes to it!
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With possibly four times your years of adult horse owning experience, it's definitely something I plan for, but then I'm a big forward planner for potential problems.

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ycbm said:
With possibly four times your years of adult horse owning experience, it's definitely something I plan for, but then I'm a big forward planner for potential problems.

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Goodness I’m not entirely sure what plan I need to put in place for something that may or may not happen. As I said if it happens I’ll deal with it, no I don’t have a specific *plan*, who knows what will be, I don’t see it as a something that couldn’t be manager with a little financial input, one horse on full ridden livery or whatnot.
 
Michen said:
Goodness I’m not entirely sure what plan I need to put in place for something that may or may not happen. As I said if it happens I’ll deal with it, no I don’t have a specific *plan*, who knows what will be, I don’t see it as a something that couldn’t be manager with a little financial input, one horse on full ridden livery or whatnot.
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Exactly. I’m not sure what the big deal is here ??‍♀️
 
Amymay said:
Exactly. I’m not sure what the big deal is here ??‍♀️
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The big deal is the number if people I've seen go into buying a horse assuming they can sell it exactly when they want to and then being stuck with a big problem when they can't. The last thing I'd want for Michen right now is for her to find herself in that situation, but she has funds, so that's OK.

No one ever got hurt by a bit of forward planning :)
 
ycbm said:
The big deal is the number if people I've seen go into buying a horse assuming they can sell it exactly when they want to and then being stuck with a big problem when they can't. The last thing I'd want for Michen right now is for her to find herself in that situation, but she has funds, so that's OK.

No one ever got hurt by a bit of forward planning :)
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I suspect that Michen’s head is well and truly screwed on in that respect (but of course it’s actually none of our business. But plenty of people on here have multiple horses, and seem to do just fine ?).
 
ycbm said:
The big deal is the number if people I've seen go into buying a horse assuming they can sell it exactly when they want to and then being stuck with a big problem when they can't. The last thing I'd want for Michen right now is for her to find herself in that situation, but she has funds, so that's OK.

No one ever got hurt by a bit of forward planning :)
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But of course I don’t assume that, I may have four times less years of horse ownership but I’m really not thick enough to assume there is no risk of it going completely not to plan for whatever reason.
 
I was just trying to watch the back of someone I've come to know well on the forum and don't want to see have any more grief over horses.

Michen, I clearly made a mistake asking the question. I apologise.

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In fairness I understand ycbm's question because quite a few of us would have an extra horse to play with when one was on sick leave, but may then struggle to pay to keep both on a yard where they can be in work, and buy in help if needed... I'm one of them, I have to do all the work myself as I'm a bit overstretched really. So on the face of it, it's something to consider when taking on an interim project, but obv in this specific case Michen is on top of things :)
 
ycbm said:
I was just trying to watch the back of someone I've come to know well on the forum and dont want to see have any more grief over horses.

Michen, I clearly made a mistake asking the question. I apologise.

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Thank you, I do appreciate your point and the intention, just not sure I’d be wanting someone to confirm their finances on a forum! I consider myself lucky to be in the position where I *can* afford two horses. Albeit I never wanted to need to, and it probably means I won’t be going back to do more diving in Indonesia this year, but would rather be riding!
 
milliepops said:
In fairness I understand ycbm's question because quite a few of us would have an extra horse to play with when one was on sick leave, but may then struggle to pay to keep both on a yard where they can be in work, and buy in help if needed... I'm one of them, I have to do all the work myself as I'm a bit overstretched really. So on the face of it, it's something to consider when taking on an interim project, but obv in this specific case Michen is on top of things :)
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I'm another one that does some of the work myself in order to have 2. If I just had the 1 I could put her on full livery or pay for significantly more schooling etc. But I didn't do that when I only had her, so I guess I still wouldn't, should I go back to 1. Mines different as hes to keep and hes a baby so my input is very limited and will continue to be for the next 2 yrs anyway.

When things went slightly awry and I had 1 in work and 1 pretty much on box rest and I'd fallen over and was struggling physically, so about as bad as things could be, I just sucked it up. I paid out for the hand walking and extra help, and got myself out of bed earlier in order to do some myself, then silently sobbed to myself about how much it was costing.
 
I lurk and add the odd comment / thread over the years and have been following you and Boggle and this thread on the edge of my seat! As someone with serial self harming TBs, I know your frustration on the injured horse front. I've just dropped down to one horse after pretty much always having two as time wise and financial wise it was too much (hello mortgage!) Anyway I digress... I personally wouldn't touch Flash with someone else's bargepole hes pottery and shuffley especially behind, may be the crap ground/sore feet/nothing but why take the risk with one horse already out of action. If you like the grey then great but if you are in two minds and checking opinions with people then why rush into buying? New horsespop up for sale every day, I think when the right one comes along even as a project you wont even need to hum and haa over it. That's just my ten peneth worth ?‍♀️
 
The latest video of Flash is the worst yet. He's lame, end of.

The grey you went to see will also sell far more easily should he come along well enough - grey Connies are about as fashionable as it gets at the moment. I didn't turn my 4 y/o away. By 4.5 we were doing some jumping clinics, the odd show and some XC practice every now and again. He was jumped once every two weeks, once a week max. He's now rising six and I still don't jump any more frequently - in fact I probably do less now than when he was a baby.
 
FWIW I really liked Flash, and felt he could be a cracking project. But I really like the grey you viewed. So my advice is to buy the damn pony and enjoy :p. If you think this pony will give you enjoyment while you wait for Boggles to heal up then its worth it.
 
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The grey pony is likely to be a much better bet if you really feel you want to sell on. You may not make such a transformation as with Boggle or potentially with a slightly rougher diamond but fairly standard work/building on his experience etc will make him a better market prospect. A nice grey Connie is far more saleable than a quirky/possibly questionably sound bay one - even with the risk that any horse can have problems! I think it must be difficult to know if you want a horse for yourself if Boggle needs longer to come right OR whether you really actually want a project to sell on/enjoy bringing on for a limited time. You need to believe in something that you want to sell on so you do need to have a really good feeling about a horse for that job but it is different to a horse you plan to own long term for yourself where arguably you can take far more risks at purchase.
 
really sorry michen but the latest flash video isnt any better than the others..i didnt see any walk but may have scrolled on was getting fed up with the trotting. the rider rises on the right diagonal on both reins and definitely changed to the wrong diagonal on the left rein which drew my eye to it. he also did some leg changing when jumping in a similar way to bog so i think there is something wrong there....he is a good looking chap but his movement has worried me all the way through......i still like the unbacked grey best of all the ones you have shown us....sorry to be another one who doesnt like flash. if you are set on him you really MUST go and try him and get him vetted by someone recommended by your own vet....
 
Tarragon said:
Did you notice on the last video of Flash that there is a break in the video just before he is seen cantering? I don't think that you actually see the transition.
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i think we saw the transition on the left rein but not the transition on the right which also makes me think he is not happy on that rein and it may have taken quite a few goes to get it, he did change back as well....
 
I also think Flash looks unlevel behind.

Years ago, I bought an unbroken three-year old as a project. My horse wasn't on sick leave or anything, but I was working at the barn and had the time and wanted to know if I could start a horse. The catch was that I knew I would be moving from the States to this country about a year after I bought the horse, so I was on a time limit. And I knew there was no chance in hell of me shipping two horses to the UK, so he would have to be sold. I bought for temperament more than anything -- I had never backed a baby myself before (I'd helped other people back theirs) and I wanted an easygoing, levelheaded horse. He was. He was perfect. And I didn't turn away. Didn't have time and it didn't seem necessary. However, he didn't sell by the time I had to leave the country. My parents aren't horsey, so they certainly couldn't work with him. I had to put him in training board with one of my barn's trainers, and she sold him about a year later. It all kind of worked out, though, because a year of 'professional training' increased his value significantly, and he went for a lot more than he would have with just me as his trainer.
 
I am no expert as to whether a horse is lame, unless they dangle a hoof at me I assume they are OK! Flash though, even if as sound as a pound, has a horrible short action and will be very uncomfortable to ride and hard on his limbs, wear wise.
Also what is the point of a bay connie? They should be grey or dun (buckskin). Everyone knows that! If you want a bay save yourself a fortune and get a newfie, just as nice and much cheaper. Bogs is bay but he doesn't look like a native pony, he is the souped up sports model.
 
I loved the static pictures of Flash but having watched the videos of him moving wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. After hearing how hard it was to convince anyone that Boggle was lame because it was so hard to see it despite being, as it turned out quite serious, has made me even more paranoid than usual about soundness. Far better to go with something unbroken and not something that may have already done too much and broken.
Have to say I love the grey but that is just me as he is just my type.
 
Clodagh said:
I am no expert as to whether a horse is lame, unless they dangle a hoof at me I assume they are OK! Flash though, even if as sound as a pound, has a horrible short action and will be very uncomfortable to ride and hard on his limbs, wear wise.
Also what is the point of a bay connie? They should be grey or dun (buckskin). Everyone knows that! If you want a bay save yourself a fortune and get a newfie, just as nice and much cheaper. Bogs is bay but he doesn't look like a native pony, he is the souped up sports model.
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The best connies are bay. Basil was also a bay Connie ;) to me they are perfect, I actually dread the idea of a grey, I’m always way too late to be able to get one clean before hunting. Duns are over priced so that leaves you with bay- definitely the best type of connie to have!
 
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