Find me a pony please HHOers...

He looks sweet but I think his conformation is terrible, and I honestly don’t think even correct shoeing will help/make any difference long term. Sorry! It’s my first response to this thread having read and seen them all on this thread! His Pasterns, his right hind particularly looksodd and he is very tied in at the knee
 
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I haven't looked at all the links so sorry if she's been linked to before. I just saw her and thought she looked nicely put together (for a non-arab ;):p)
https://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/119731981/pretty-ish-project.html?link=/search?sectionId=3365&advertType=forsale&orderBy=mostRecent&page=3
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Much nicer!
 
Amymay said:
The one thing that sticks out about a lot of these connies is that they seem to be very straight through the hocks.

Anyway Michin. Good luck with your search. I look forward to catching up on a new New Pony thread xx
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And Sue Dyson's research pointed to on another thread reports 12% increase in risk of PSD for every 1 degree increase in straighteness through the hock. It's one of my 'won't buy' things, which is a pretty short list.
 
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And Sue Dyson's research pointed to on another thread reports 12% increase in risk of PSD for every 1 degree increase in straighteness through the hock. It's one of my 'won't buy' things, which is a pretty short list.
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Here's some hocks for you.
 

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I think the colouring of the winter fuzz makes the latest ones front legs look worse than they are. It makes a bit of an optical illusion I think. If they were clipped out I dont think they would look as tied in as the light coloured fluff makes them appear.
Agree it would be interesting so see if his stance improved with some normal shaped feet on ?
 
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ycbm said:
And Sue Dyson's research pointed to on another thread reports 12% increase in risk of PSD for every 1 degree increase in straighteness through the hock. It's one of my 'won't buy' things, which is a pretty short list.
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In the PSD group nearly all of them have straight hocks when you look at the photos. Mine is straight in the hock (Welsh D) and we are sure thats the cause of his PSD.
I'd avoid something straight hocked again.. but is anything perfect conformation wise? Can't imagine buying another now with the list I'd have.. would need a 30k budget I think!
 
I think those of us with such natives are probably just more used to seeing straighter hocks, and know how many have them without issue. Frank's straight, probably contributed to his annulars but he was 24 by then!
That and they haven't got anything on the straightness managed by AQHA.
If you want a connie or a section D the likelihood is they will be straighter than ideal and then you decide if that's ok with you, if not you might need to look at other breeds.

He'll be 15hh with his feet done ;).
 
I think some of it is also what you are used to looking at. My chestnut mare is a bit straight through the hocks and having looked at her for *many years* that is now normal to me. When an old poster put up some photos of their stallion with excellent hocks, I can remember thinking how odd they looked despite knowing that they were indeed better than CM's.

I think that's why most horses look like they have low set tails too... :D
 
post deleted as the picture was not quite Secretariat!! Maybe this one is!
Secretariat was generally considered to have excellent conformation. :)
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Patterdale here and others on my YouTube



Guys you are killing me really, one minute he’s got too much angle, now he’s straight. And yes I know he’s landing slightly on the outside of a front foot. And no I don’t care ;)

So here’s a question what’s more important. Good confo or good movement. The grey pony had nice confo but no where near as nicer a mover as this bay. Long term surely moving better equals better chance at soundness than being perfectly put together.
 
I think you have to weigh everything up really Michen - conformation and movement as well as temperament and type. None are perfect and whilst most horses have a problem or two in their life unless there is a glaring conformation issue there will always be more than 1 factor involved in unsoundness. I do think asking a vet to look (with an eye on conformation as well as soundness) as well as forming your own picture of balance and harmony of the whole horse in front of you is helpful. Does the horse look 'right'? Does he move easily, happily and in keeping with the type that he is? Does he look like front and back, top and bottom belong together? Many horses will fail all sorts of conformation tests but have long and active lives so don't fret about responses to pictures - it is notoriously difficult to get a decent fair shot of a horse on camera. I know you liked Flash and he did look a nice chap but he didn't move especially 'comfortably'. The roan cob (with a lot of hair!!) did move very comfortably however but not right for you. It is also worth remembering that many decent young horses can look like a right bag of spanners before they are fully developed. This is a good reason to buy from a decent breeder or producer; you can have a much better idea through the parents of what you are likely to end up with - particularly in terms of conformation and temperament. Have a little faith in your instincts and 'feel' as well as asking a vet you trust. Good luck. :)
 
I still really like him, for what that’s worth from a complete stranger. Couldn’t you do a cheeky little weekend away in Ireland, see what he’s like in the flesh? Also, you’re never going to get a consensus on an online forum! If the vet says his conformation should be fine for eventing up to 100 or whatever, and you love him, that should be good enough imo
 
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I like this new bay one. As you say his feet look god awful but that should be sortable (& it’s probably going to be difficult to properly assess confirmation when his front feet look like that... I’m no massive expert on what’s perfect anyway... something needs to be glaringly terrible for me to notice it). He looks to move freely & looks like he has a nice attitude to his work (looks keen without being anywhere near as tense as some of the others have)
 
Michen as a grey superfan, I like the little bay hes got a lovely eye and head looks (to me) to have a bit of power in there and good blank canvas to work with, far far better than flash. Those feet do make me cringe, as a native Irish woman especially. My TB is gangly legged and cow hocked but moves amazingly it always surprises people ?‍♀️ Ugly ducklings and all that. I do think buying from vids and photos never gives you the same as seeing them in the flesh or at least getting an agent/friend to do it on your behalf.
 
If they won’t shift and you’re serious I’d buy. I don’t think you’d get better for the price. And I don’t think they’ll have it long.

I dont get them vetted from Ireland as I think there’s no point when you don’t know who the vet is and you can’t be there. I’d just do a good bit of digging on the seller if I didn’t know them, then get it on the ferry.

Who’s selling it? Breeder or dealer? Where was it advertised?
 
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If they won’t shift and you’re serious I’d buy. I don’t think you’d get better for the price. And I don’t think they’ll have it long.

I dont get them vetted from Ireland as I think there’s no point when you don’t know who the vet is and you can’t be there. I’d just do a good bit of digging on the seller if I didn’t know them, then get it on the ferry.

Who’s selling it? Breeder or dealer? Where was it advertised?
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He’s both. Was advertised on Facebook but quite quietly!
 
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