fleece stable rug under MW, stupid me, poor horse :(

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thought I was doing the right thing.!!!!

The fleece kept slipping back under his rug, have been pulling it forward everyday, but yesterday did it, and a handful of hair fell off in my hand.

Poor old thing, in the night it had dug in soo hard at the base of his neck, just above his chest, that it had cut in and made the area swollen
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I was worried that he would be cold without it, as only has a MW and neck cover on, but thought it better he be cold than in pain.

Today after having our coldest night, he was still warm and much happier
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He is a Fine TB, underweight, and elderly, so the question is....... Do we over rug?, it seems as if I have been doing
 
Best tip I can give you is to get a Rambo Duo liner and attach with the clips at the back to the rings the fillet string attach to. It fastens with velcro on the chest just like a stable rug would but doesnt dig in anywhere and there are no extra belly straps to get legs caught up in. Works well for me. Hope your horse is ok and yes we can over rug at times and its actually worse than under rugging due to dehydration. Sounds like alls well though for your boy.
 
This is the reason I don't like fleeces as under rugs. My YO often uses one on a horse with very high withers - the number of times it has got stuck behind them is scary.
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I use a lw amigo stable rug if needed, that stays put perfectly and allows the top rug to slide about just enough to stay put IYSWIM!
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(They don't get caught on each other.)
 
yes i like the light weight amigos to they are great on there own and also ideal to insulate and stay in place nicely. The plus is theyre only about £30 quid and easily fit in a washing machine too!
 
That's why I never use fleeces except for travelling. I use turnout rugs as under rugs instead as they stay in place better and don't get wet/muddy
 
May go and get one of those then, good value at £30.

Althouhg feel rubbish he is in such a low weight rug, this year he feels warm, even though last year with a HW and under rug was feeling cold.

He is even trotting to get his tea, rather then plodding out, so think he is better off
 
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Yes people put far too many rugs on their horses in this country
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Sorry your horse is sore, but at least you have found out quickly and remedied it
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Totally agree
 
buy a best quality dual rug (like rambo or FAL) horses are very warm, comfotable as fit is good, and they last for years, wash and proof well! initial oulay is expensive but work out cheaper over the years!
 
We all over rug at times - i am the only person on the yard whom has only 1 rug on my horse in the day and at night. I am at yard between 5.30 and 6am most morings and they have all felt warm. I have 3 different types and they are all clipped - 2 full and 1 chaser clip and they are all in heavy weight rugs with neck covers by day and by night at the min as we are not getting above freezing. As soon as we get back over 3 degrees they are dropped down a rug weight to a medium weight and one of them gets the neck cover off.

You were doing your best, you did not intend to do it and thank god you are not like some people who leave rugs on for weeks at a time with out checking for pressure points, fit etc. A horse in my area had to have a rug cut off it had been left on that long the straps had cut into its flesh. Poor horse had to be pts in the end
 
My experience too is that a fleece under the main rug slips back, it's a shame as I was hoping mine could wear the fleece as a type of thermal, but tbh, it's more trouble than its worth. I find they slip back further if your horse is a little narrower than a cob at front (TB type).
 
Oh dear, my girl is wearing a fleece under her HW stable rug. It doesnt seem to slip back but I will check it tomorrow. I do take it off every day, when I groom her, and then stick it back on, and it doesnt seem to be rubbing her.
 
Thats one of the reasons why I would never have a fleece rug.
I have a Fal Commander under rug which is super. It never slips or rubs and can be used under any rug. It even has a removable waterproof belly wrap! It cost about £55 a year or so ago.

As for the Fal/Rambo outer rugs, Premier Equine do rugs made of the same strong material for much less money. Got one of those too and it fits well and does not rub or slip.
 
I did this with a Thermatex last year during the snow & have also posted to say don't. instead of his chest it was his withers & I hadn't realised until a scab formed & came off. As he was clipped & had to continue being rugged, it took ages to heal & kept getting rubbed.

I bought some Premier Equine liners in their sale last year. They're the same as the Duo ones & I've put a 200g one under his heavyweight. They're also very light.
 
A lot of people use summer sheets and fleeces under their outer rugs but I never do for exactly the reasons you have stated. I know they appear to be a good rug to layer and are easier to wash they just don't 'move' with the horse like stable rugs or outdoor rugs and can cause terrible pressure areas and / or sores.
 
I'm sure something similar has happened to lots of us, I no longer use fleeces under rugs as they slip back too much - I use proper underrugs instead and they are fine.

Agree that we over rug too, I stupidly left a thicker rug on my old pony last night not realising how much 'warmer' it has got (still feels cold to me) and he had sweated a bit in the night - will have to get a wall thermometer for the stables.
 
i use a silky bossy bib under mine and have found that my fleece doesnt move at all now - it doesnt dig in and stays where it should
 
Found over the years that Thermatex and fleec rugs always seem to slip back behind the withers if used as an underrug.

When it was very cold earlier this week I put two turnout rugs on the horses that were feeling the cold. They didn't slip back or end up hanging down to one side.

Even when it was very cold the unrugged horses were good and warm.
 
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